page 1 of 25; games 1-25 of 616  Game   Result Moves Year Event/Locale Opening 1. Bird vs J Wisker 1-0 40 1873 London m2 C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 2. Blackburne vs L Van Vliet ½-½ 28 1893 London ;HCL 44 C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 3. Duras vs J Vijzelaar 1-0 46 1903 Hilversum C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 4. H Wolf vs Swiderski   ½-½ 59 1904 DSB-14.Kongress C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 5. H Wolf vs G Marco   ½-½ 23 1904 DSB-14.Kongress C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 6. H Wolf vs H Suechting   0-1 43 1904 DSB-14.Kongress C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 7. H Wolf vs Teichmann   1-0 48 1905 Ostend C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 8. H Wolf vs Taubenhaus   ½-½ 29 1905 Ostend C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 9. Leonhardt vs Salwe   0-1 61 1906 DSB-15.Kongress C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 10. H Wolf vs G Marco   0-1 18 1906 Ostende C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 11. Reti vs Spielmann 0-1 36 1908 14, Vienna C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 12. Alapin vs Reti 1-0 63 1908 Vienna C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 13. Lasker vs Teichmann 1-0 28 1909 St. Petersburg (Russia) C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 14. M Elyashov vs W Schlage   1-0 43 1910 Hamburg Hauptturnier-B C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 15. Fahrni vs J Perlis   1-0 69 1911 Karlsbad C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 16. Reti vs Lasker ½-½ 54 1917 HUN tour sim C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 17. G Schories vs Ahues 1-0 45 1921 21. DSB Kongress C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 18. Reti vs Gruenfeld   ½-½ 48 1922 13, Teplitz-Schonau it GER C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 19. Reti vs Rubinstein 0-1 40 1922 Vienna C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 20. Reti vs Kmoch 1-0 52 1922 Vienna C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 21. W Fick vs H N Hansen   0-1 36 1923 Scheveningen NED C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 22. Carlo Guarini vs A C Sacconi   0-1 43 1923 Trieste-ch C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 23. S Rozental vs A Selezniev   0-1 30 1924 URS-ch03 C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 24. Alekhine vs Euwe ½-½ 43 1926 NED m (01) C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack 25. Kashdan vs Kupchik   ½-½ 96 1926 Chicago C86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack  page 1 of 25; games 1-25 of 616    REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2)

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< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing > Jun-23-05    ArturoRivera: yeah, however i like the move Rd1, gets some really nice activity, by the way, thanks for the game, real classic as you said Aug-13-05    bomb the bishop: Is this line recommendable for white, today? Aug-26-05    who: Anyone know of a game where Worrall plays this opening? Dec-22-05    alicefujimori: The opening of the day. The Worrall is actually not a bad line, but the problem is that the Qe2-Rd1-c3-d4 setup is somewhat slow and Black could use all thhose time to build up nice counterplay to neutralize White's central punch. Dec-20-06    marn0: I believe that Andrew Greet has written a recent book on this line for Everyman. Has anyone seen this book or read it? I think I might take up the Ruy Worrall ... Jan-08-07    bumpmobile: <marn0> I just got it in the mail today. I am reading the introduction as I write. Nothing I can find indicates that Mr. Greet is any kind of expert on the Ruy (3-4 games in the database), but he addresses this and insists that he knows what he is talking about. Jan-08-07    Eric Schiller: I offer E Schiller vs M Arne, 1995 as my statement on the opening. Do you really think it is slow, <alicefujimori>? Jan-08-07    notyetagm: <Eric Schiller: I offer E Schiller vs M Arne, 1995 as my statement on the opening. Do you really think it is slow, <alicefujimori>?> Very nice game. 31 f1!! is stupendous. What was the book on Spielmann that you were writing that lead you to play the Worrall attack in this game? Jan-09-07    Eric Schiller: <notyet> My book on Spielmann, revised edition, is sitting around the Harding-Simpole office, it was to be published in 2005. I have no idea what has caused the delay. The first edition came out in 1995. Jan-09-07    ganstaman: 1) I know how wonderful the ECO system is, but if anyone actually understands it I have a question. That game Eric Schiller presents 4 posts above this one is listed as C77 while this is the C86 page. Maybe I don't know exactly what the Worrall Attack entails, but why isn't his game listed as C86? 2) I'm possibly thinking of taking this opening up as a way to avoid the Open Ruy Lopez and the Berlin Defense. Anyone have any advice or general traps I should be aware of? Jan-09-07    ganstaman: Oh, I may have figured out the answer to my first question. Does it have something to do with when castling occurs? Apr-14-07    gambitfan: Opening of the day OPOD Sa 14/04/2007 Oct-17-07    DaveyL: Gazza should've tried this against Kramnik in 2000, to avoid the dreaded Belrin Wall. Oct-17-07    keypusher: Well, the Worrall wouldn't work, because Kramnik played 3....Nf6, not 3....a6. But I don't see why White couldn't play 4. Qe2. <tpstar> has probably tried it. Oct-17-07    DaveyL: Yep, you just play Qe2 whenever Black plays Nf6 - it might be slow, but surely Kasparov could've squeezed more out of it than he did against the Berlin. Oct-17-07    acirce: Why do you think so? I doubt 4.Qe2 can give White more than equality. Oct-17-07    DaveyL: Well, a slightly facetious reply, but plug 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. Qe2 into the opening explorer, and white still wins a very reasonable % of games. But my main point was, Kasparov could find absolutely nothing against Kramnik's Berlin Defence, so why not try something else? Could it be worse? Oct-17-07    acirce: Yes. He did try something else and it was worse. Oct-17-07    KingG: According to Kramnik, Kasparov later admitted that he should have tried the d3 variation of the Berlin. I'm not sure why he didn't. Maybe it became a matter of principle for him. Oct-18-07    DaveyL: I'm impressed at how quickly the Kramnik Police pick up on even the smallest perceived slight against the big man :-) Oct-18-07    keypusher: <I'm impressed at how quickly the Kramnik Police pick up on even the smallest perceived slight against the big man :-)> Well, let me join the force for a moment (or maybe I am already a member). Objectively speaking, 4. d3 (or 4. Qe2 followed by d3 at some point) isn't very strong. It's conceding most or all of White's opening advantage in the hopes that White can make something happen later after he maneuvers for a while. By contrast, Kasparov was getting an advantage in the Berlin (again, objectively speaking). It just happened to be an advantage that was very hard to convert. (A year later in Astana, Kasparov was finally able to breach the wall: Kasparov vs Kramnik, 2001.) As Kramnik foresaw, a maximalist like Kasparov had a very hard time foregoing that advantage. Oct-18-07    acirce: I don't understand this supposed "perceived slight against the big man". I saw no criticism at all here, possibly of Kasparov if anyone. The problem with all these "Kasparov should have tried this or that instead of banging his head against the Berlin" is that he DID try other things. Half of his White games in the match (4/8) were NOT Berlins. No success whatever he tried, though. In game 11 it was actually Kramnik who did not allow the Berlin (playing 3..a6 instead). Why did he do that if it was so obvious that Kasparov could not make headway against it? Aug-26-08    TommyC: Does anyone know who Worrall was? Aug-26-08    unsound: Thomas Herbert Worrall seems to have been a Britihs player that Morphy had no trouble against even giving a knight odds: Thomas Herbert Worrall Sep-01-08    Phony Benoni: I lost a lot of friends by calling this opening the <Worral Pez>. < Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing >

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