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Aug-01-05
 | | Sneaky: First of all let me correct a typo--when I said <with a bishop on b4 (attacking the c4 knight)> of course I meant the c3 knight. Now azaris, <I don't think that 4...dxc4 is worth an exclam since it's the move that gives White the most iniative out of the opening> Well I'm not going to argue exclams, but my thinking is that it's a move that looks bad, but in fact entails a very well thought-out opening plan. I play ...e6 in that position these days, another move that "looks bad" but lays the path for a very solid plan of development. I don't think one move is better than the other, but the Semi-Slav I think gives both players more ways to win, so it makes for exciting chess. <You can usually let the pawn go and still get a good game going. Certainly I'd like to face this rather than a Semi-Slav or something.> Not me, at least not in a tournament. Semi-Slav games are very double edged, and somebody is bound to win, but the Slav is one tough nut to crack when a good player handles the Black pieces. White's advantage is so tiny that it's not easy to get anything working. Of course no plan is foolproof--see Kasparov vs Timman, 1988 for a neat example of how Garry manages gets a nagging advantage out of the opening and converts it into a point. <Recent GM practice seems to favor not even trying to hold the pawn> Old GM practice favors that as well. Pawn grabbing in the opening is rarely recommended and not for the feint of heart; but unless something is going on that I'm not aware of, White still plays a4 against the Slav, no? That's Black's cue to abandon any idea of clinging to the gambit pawn, but like I said above, Black can then enjoy the hole created on b4. <and most people seem to have switched to the bizarre 4...a6> Bizarre is a good word for it. I haven't found a very good description of the idea behind that move, but I've seen the games, and the weird way that Black puts a rook on a7 only to free it up with b5. |
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| Aug-08-05 | | Knight Pawn: Does anyone know of any good repertoire books for white in the slav? All the books I find are either too basic and idea oriented lacking precise variations, or focus only as a repertoire for black. |
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| Aug-08-05 | | CaroKannPirate: Thanks alot, Sneaky. |
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| Sep-09-05 | | chess man: Here's an enjoyable game. W Hahn vs Tarrasch, 1890 |
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| Oct-04-05 | | Averageguy: What does "Slav" mean? Was it a player, or is it named after some country? |
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| Oct-04-05 | | aw1988: Slav is country |
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| Oct-05-05 | | Averageguy: <aw1988>What country? |
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Oct-05-05
 | | MUG: Not a country but a ethnic and linguistic body of peoples. They are defined by speaking Slavic languages and reside chiefly in Eastern Europe, I think! Probably the early pioneers of this opening where Slavs?? |
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| Nov-26-05 | | joeyam30: 1.d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dc4 5.a4 Bf5
i think that this is white's precise variation to play agaist the slav, if black plays 4...e6 (semi-slav) , white can transpose it to the exhange variation by 5.cd5 ed5 6.Bg5i play the slav and semi-slav(meran syst) as 1 0f my best defences against 1d4 |
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| Apr-23-06 | | Nikita Smirnov: I really don't like the Slav nor the Semi-Slav because you are locking your Knight stopping him from comming to c6.In the Semi-Slav I don't like it because the bishop is locked on c8 very hard getting a good Bishop.Mostly I preffer Nimzo-Indian Defence as my teacher Master Jan Ullen. |
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| May-20-06 | | Nikita Smirnov: I may tell the story about what Slav means.It was the old peoples in Russia and many other countrys like Slovakia,Slovenia,Ukraine,Russia and many other countrys. |
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| May-20-06 | | vizir: Hello
The key idea of playing a6 is to free the Bc8 without allowing pressure on b7 & d5 by Qb3. This is also the reason why we play dxc4 before playing Bf5 (c4 controls b3) in the main line of the slav. Here black's gonna push b5 to question the c pawn. then white has 3 choices :
1. d4 d5 3. c4 c6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6.e3 b5
- 7. c5 Bg4 & black is preparing e5
- 7. b3 keeping the tension B moves
- 7. cxd5 (or cxb5 transposes) cxd5 and black should equalize I'm not an expert but I hope this could help you :-) |
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| Jul-01-06 | | Nikita Smirnov: Well i think that Semi Slav is better.I have drew against Shredder Classic 1.3 with Semi Slav |
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Oct-13-06
 | | micartouse: Congratulations to the Slav Defense for a truly exciting performance in the World Chess Championship. Alekhine and Euwe would be proud. |
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| Aug-01-07 | | realbrob: Sometimes I play with a friend of mine who plays (with White): 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 (I choose the Slav) 3.c5 I didn't find 3.c5 in the opening explorer, so I assume it's a bad move, can someone explain me why? |
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| Aug-01-07 | | xKinGKooLx: I like the Slav Defence, since it frees the c8 bishop to come out to f5 or g4, depending on the circumstances, then you can play e6 later on to solidify your centre somewhat and bring out your other bishop. The QGD (2. ...e6) sort of "locks" that bishop into the defensive (unless White plays cxd4 of course, either immediately or later on.) However, I do play the QGD sometimes, for a change. Both openings have their advantages. |
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| Jul-25-08 | | Cactus: In responce to the questions about a6, according to my book on the Slav (called, strangely enough, The Slav) explains: <4...a6 allows the bishop to develop outside the pawn chain to g4 or f5, since after ...Bf5, Qb3 attacking b7 can be met by ...b5, advancing the b7-pawn to a safe square, or ...Ra7! an ugly looking but brilliant thought of Julian Hodgson's.> Also, Black threatens to play ...dxc4 and keep the pawn after ...b5, and after Qb3 ...Ra7, the rook may be 'offsides', but actually, the queen is just as much; it's needed elsewhere.
By the way, in responce to the whole Nf3-Nc3 debate, Nc3 is inaccurate because black can simply play
1.d4 d5
2.c4 c6
3.Nc3?! dxc4!
4.e3(or e4) b5
5.a4 b4, and the b4 pawn attacks the Knight on c3, whereas normally (with a knight on f3) it wouldn't. |
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| Jan-21-09 | | unsound: In response to realbrob's question of a year and a half ago, 3.c5 is a very bad move because of 3...e5 (4.dxe5 Bxc5), which gives black central domination (e.g. 4.e3 e4; ouch). |
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Aug-19-09
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<Slav, Winawer Countergambit <1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 e5>> 
click for larger view Opening Explorer following the main line: <4. dxe5 d4 5. Ne4 Qa5+> 
click for larger view Opening Explorer |
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| Feb-16-10 | | philchess: Does anyone know how to face 3.. Bf5 or 4.. Bf5? I find it very aggressive! |
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| Feb-17-10 | | nescio: <philchess: Does anyone know how to face 3.. Bf5 or 4.. Bf5? I find it very aggressive!> As usual the great masters can show you the way, in this case to an advantageous endgame: Schlechter vs J Perlis, 1911
Schlechter vs Halprin, 1900 |
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| Jun-25-10 | | jbtigerwolf: In response to Cactus, how about 5a3? I'm experimenting with d4,c4,Nc3,e4 (after dxc4)... with bad results, as most of my club opp play b5, for which there is no text! (It's 'bad'). Also, there is some merit in Nc3, attacking d5 and e4 and it's a good position, so... ...is 5a3 the answer? Or something else? I don't like early defensive moves for White, but Nc3,d4,e4 is a great centre. |
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| Mar-13-11 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day :
Slav, Winawer Countergambit
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 e5 |
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| Mar-30-12 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Slav, Winawer Countergambit
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3. c3 e5
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Jan-13-13
 | | Tomlinsky: An immediate 6...b5 push, rather than the established 6...Ra7, in Qb3 lines of the Chebanenko looks good to go after tests. However, I'm far from convinced that Bologan's suggested follow up plan after 6...a5 in this position is the way to go.
click for larger viewThe a4 pawn push should, in my opinion, only be played with a view to nudging the White Lady away from the Queen-side after White plays a3. Other position dependent considerations notwithstanding of course. The b4 push, more often than not with tempo on the c3-knight, is much more flexible. Plans such as Bc8-Ba6-Na6-Nc7-Na5/Na5 exchanging LSB's and activation the Knight, for example, are more readily achieved with less balanced options available to Black and more chances to aim for the win. Control of the a/b files and if, when and how they are opened, if at all, are critical in these lines as this is where counterplay generally lies for White in the long run. The pawn chain, as demonstrated in A David vs Bologan, 2012 for example, looks pretty but it's extremely easy to inherit a sterile position, complete with 'King's Indian Bishop', with few chances pretty much regardless of the rating of opposition. You're unlikely to lose of you've done your homework and are awake. On the other hand, you had better have shares in Starbucks if you actually need the win. |
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