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King's Indian Defense (E60)
1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6

Number of games in database: 4043
Years covered: 1922 to 2017
Overall record:
   White wins 36.8%
   Black wins 25.3%
   Draws 37.9%

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PRACTITIONERS
With the White Pieces With the Black Pieces
Alexander Baburin  36 games
Jan Hein Donner  36 games
Predrag Nikolic  26 games
Peter Svidler  34 games
John Nunn  25 games
Ilya Smirin  24 games
NOTABLE GAMES [what is this?]
White Wins Black Wins
Euwe vs Najdorf, 1953
Botvinnik vs Bronstein, 1951
Kasparov vs Nunn, 1986
Robert E Byrne vs Fischer, 1963
L Stumpers vs Euwe, 1946
Botvinnik vs Smyslov, 1954
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 page 1 of 162; games 1-25 of 4,043  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Saemisch vs Reti 0-1331922Teplitz-SchönauE60 King's Indian Defense
2. Loman vs Euwe 0-1621923SSS CupE60 King's Indian Defense
3. Colle vs Koltanowski 0-1711923ch BELE60 King's Indian Defense
4. Bogoljubov vs Tarrasch 1-0281923KarlsbadE60 King's Indian Defense
5. Gruenfeld vs Yates  ½-½321923KarlsbadE60 King's Indian Defense
6. A Pokorny vs Gruenfeld  0-1541923Maehrisch-OstrauE60 King's Indian Defense
7. Gruenfeld vs Euwe  ½-½541923Maehrisch-OstrauE60 King's Indian Defense
8. M Walter vs Hromadka  ½-½521923Maehrisch-OstrauE60 King's Indian Defense
9. Euwe vs Yates 1-0441923ScheveningenE60 King's Indian Defense
10. Alekhine vs E T Jesty 1-0411923BCF Major OpenE60 King's Indian Defense
11. Alekhine vs J H Morrison 1-0281923Simul, 32bE60 King's Indian Defense
12. Gruenfeld vs Reti  ½-½351923ViennaE60 King's Indian Defense
13. G Andreev vs Botvinnik 0-1461924LeningradE60 King's Indian Defense
14. Kupchik vs Bogoljubov  ½-½531924Bogoljubov-Kupchik MatchE60 King's Indian Defense
15. V Vukovic vs S Gruber  1-0611924GyorE60 King's Indian Defense
16. A Vajda vs E Steiner  1-0301924GyorE60 King's Indian Defense
17. Colle vs Gruenfeld 0-1451924MeranoE60 King's Indian Defense
18. G Fontein vs Euwe  0-1311924NED-chE60 King's Indian Defense
19. Marshall vs Reti ½-½501924New YorkE60 King's Indian Defense
20. Colle vs Euwe 1-0361924Zutphen m ,HCL 28E60 King's Indian Defense
21. Rubinstein vs O C Mueller  1-0351924BCF Major OpenE60 King's Indian Defense
22. J Davidson vs Euwe  0-1561924MatchE60 King's Indian Defense
23. Kmoch vs L Steiner 1-0251925DebrecenE60 King's Indian Defense
24. S B Gotthilf vs Bogoljubov  ½-½441925USSR ChampionshipE60 King's Indian Defense
25. M Sonnenberg vs Euwe 0-1341925AmsterdamE60 King's Indian Defense
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Dec-11-06  who: <duffer> sorry. I was talking about starting out the KI. <acirce> I'm surprised you like it.
Dec-11-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  acirce: <duffer> It's nothing all that extraordinary about it, it's just that it does a very good job explaining all the various ideas in the opening and offers a fine repertoire illustrated with nicely annotated games. I like it better than "Starting Out...".
Dec-11-06  duffer: Thanks, mate. I think I'll get Bronstein's book. He stresses ideas, which seem more important, over lines.
Jun-27-07  Kleve: I, for one, love playing through KID games the masters played... Fischer was a demon in this opening! I only wish we could see more of this one in high-level play. I'm bored to tears by the QID...
Sep-18-08  bujawi: is there anybody that can help me find games of the kings indian attack anybody?
Oct-26-08  nikolajewitsch: I am not sure whether this is the right place to post this, but we definitely need to edit the databases regarding old KID games. Right now, the DB lists games from 1839, 1858 and 1871 as the oldest KID games, all of which seem dubious. I've posted questions on the sites of the respective games; any help of people with better access to databases than I have would be greatly appreciated.
Nov-24-08  hedgeh0g: Can anyone recommend a book on the KID for an 1800ish player with some knowledge of the ideas in the KID but not a lot of knowledge regarding specific lines? I was scouring through Amazon and was considering "The Complete King's Indian" by Keene. Is this any good?
Nov-24-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jim Bartle: I have a "repertoire" book by Andrew Martin (can't remember the exact title, and I think it's changed in later editions), which presents a single KID variation against the various white plans.

A good presentation, though obviously far from comprehensive.

Dec-10-08  rangek: Hi sorry I have a newbie question here.

after
1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6
3. Nc3 Bg7
4. e4 0-0

sometimes my opponent plays 5. e5 and I have to respond 5.. Ne8. Whats a good plan for relieving the cramped black position? does f6 or d6 help? Or do other moves work better?

Dec-10-08  euripides: <rangek> Take a look at

Letelier vs Fischer, 1960

for some ideas - also you can use the 'see similar games' feature to get other games in the same line.

Generally a combination of d6 and c5 can work well. If White plays Nf3 then Bg4 may be helpful.

Black can avoid the problem with 4...d6, though when I play the KID as Black I like the rare line 4...0-0 5.Nf3 c6 !?

Dec-10-08  rangek: <euri>

couldn't thank you enough!

Not having the full features of opening explorer sucks xP

The KID's width and depth is scaring the amateur in me

Mar-01-09  ILikeFruits: kid...
is not...
an adult...
Mar-01-09  chessman95: I thought the KID was initiated after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7. If this site is correct and it's initiated after only 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6, then is the Grunfeld classified as a branch of the KID? I don't think this site is right.
Mar-01-09  blacksburg: this nomenclature stuff is a little murky, always has been. the term <indian> refers to the fianchettoed bishop, AFAIK. thus <king's indian> would refer to a system with g6, Bg7. and a <queen's indian> would refer to a system with b6, Bb7.

the term <gruenfeld> doesn't apply until black plays ...d5. for example, after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 if black plays 3...d5, we have a <gruenfeld>. but if black plays 3...Bg7, then white plays 4.e4, preventing ...d5, so then we will have a <KID>.

in the position after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6, if you have to call it something, <KID> would probably be the most appropriate, because black will play g6 and Bg7. but of course, this position could become a <KID>, a <gruenfeld>, it could even become a <sicilian dragon>.

<I thought the KID was initiated after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7.>

this is the usual <KID> move order, but what if white plays 4.Nf3 instead of the usual 4.e4? then black has the option of 4...d5, and we're back into a <gruenfeld>. confused yet? i am. i give up.

Mar-02-09  ganstaman: The name "Indian" does mean "fianchettoed bishop" as the Nimzo Indian and Bogo Indian do not feature that most of the time.

The ECO code E60 is for KID games that start 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 and do not continue to E61 (3. Nc3) or to E80, the Grunfeld.

This is just like ECO B00, which is uncommon king pawn openings. It is defined by 1. e4 followed by something other than what you find in other ECO areas. So if you go there and see 1. e4 above the board, you shouldn't think that all games that start 1. e4 are classified under B00.

Mar-02-09  chessman95: It is true that the term "indian" doesn't mean a fianchetto with a bishop. Originally, the term meant any opening after 1.d4 that did not continue 1...d5. It was said that Europeans learned openings after 1.d4 other than 1...d5 while in India, so they called those openings that. I guess it's kind of like the king pawn openings being divided up into 1.e4 e5 (open) and 1.e4 not ...e5 (semi-open). Nowadays the term "indian" opening refers to anything after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4, because that is the main branch of opening theory in the queen pawn games other than the Queen's Gambit and some other minor openings.
Mar-03-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Willem Wallekers: This is what I think I know about the term "Indian". It refers to 1. d4 Nf6 (not 1 d4 f5, that's Dutch).
These openings were "modern" and became quite popular in the 1920's. Problem was they had no name. As most openings were named after countries a wellknown chess player at the time (Tartakower if my memory serves me well) jestingly proposed to call them Indian because he sensed an exotic flavour in them. I don't believe Europeans learned them in India, because Europeans in India were mainly British and I know of no Brits playing an important role in introducing these openings.
Mar-03-09  MaxxLange: <Willem Wallekers> this is correct, according to what I have heard. It was kind of just a little joke that caught on.
Mar-03-09  chessman95: Maybe you're right. I remember reading it in an opening book I got on Indian Games, so I just assumed it was right.

By the way, I'm looking for a good surprise weapon against 1.d4. I can't seem to find any in the Indian Games, because everyone knows that theory now. And the Dutch is too well known as well, although I do use it. Is the Polish Defense a sound opening? I can't find any good analysis on it, but I was considering starting to play it.

Mar-03-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Willem Wallekers: <chessman95: ... I'm looking for a good surprise weapon against 1.d4.> How about 1 ... c5?
Might follow 2. d5 Nf6 3. c4 b5!?
Mar-03-09  chessman95: <Willem Wallekers> Unless I'm mistaken, that's transposed to the Benko Gambit. I'm looking for a non-indian game.
Mar-03-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Willem Wallekers: chessman: Yes it is, if that isn't surprising enough all I can think of is (well, there is also the Budapest gambit) 1. d4 b6 2. e4 Bb7 3. Bd3 f5, but that's unsound.
Mar-03-09  chessman95: What about the pterodactyl system? (black sets up with g6,Bg7,c5,and Qa5) There's a surprising amount of theory on it on the internet and it seems rare enough. Does anyone know if it's sound?
Mar-04-09  GeauxCool: <chessman95>

Look through some of the games by Raymond Keene, Lawrence Day, Eric Schiller, or Alvah Mayo who all kibitz on <CG>. They may even answer a few questions for you!

For a clear lesson in the <Pterodactyl rhamporhynchus> subvariation, see: D Howell vs L Day, 2005

And how close is this one? Topalov vs I Sokolov, 2006

Mar-04-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  KingG: <chessman95> What openings do you play against d4, c4 and e4 at the moment? And when you say everyone knows the theory, roughly up to what move are you talking about?
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