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| Apr-05-12 | | Interbond: <AVRO38> Do you really need to be so rude? This is a discussion forum about King's Gambit Accepted not a forum for personal insults. |
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Apr-05-12
 | | OhioChessFan: Hmmm, I am surprised anyone thought that was for real. Maybe April 1 isn't as well known as a day of jokes in other countries. |
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Apr-05-12
 | | keypusher: <Interbond: <AVRO38> Do you really need to be so rude? This is a discussion forum about King's Gambit Accepted not a forum for personal insults.> Well, I insulted him first. But he earns every insult he gets (and he gets plenty). |
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| Apr-05-12 | | Interbond: <keypusher> To put it this way; I can accept a king's gambit ,but I don't accept personal insults ;-) (even if it's not against me) |
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| Dec-24-12 | | Kikoman: <Opening of the Day> December 24, 2012
<<<King's Gambit Accepted>>> I occassionaly used this type opening during my high school days when my teacher in Physics introduced it to me. But nowadays I abandoned it and concentrate in Spanish Game, Sicilian and French Defense. :)x |
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Dec-25-12
 | | redlance: Hopefully a new Kings Gambit book by Quality chess coming soon!!!??? |
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Jan-02-13
 | | Phony Benoni: Busted!
http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp... |
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Jan-02-13
| | Phony Benoni: Sorry. Turns out it was an April Fools joke.
Thank goodness. |
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| Dec-12-14 | | drunknite: A quick Kings Gambit Accepted, inspired by Damiano. (this was 3 minute blitz on game knot) 1. e4 e5
2. f4 exf4
3. Nf3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Nge7
5. Ng5 Ne5
6. Qe2
a strange formation inspired by Damiano defense (...Ne7 idea): 
click for larger view6....N7g6 (the online pc actually agrees and has black up 1.5 pts) 7. Nf3 d6
8 d4? (apparently a clunker, the online pc suggests 8 Nxe5 Nxe5 9 Bb3 w/ black ahead 1.5 pts) 8....Nxf3+
9. Qxf3 Qh4+ (a bold move)
what do you play here? a classic confrontation of Romantic openings: the check on f7 (note the white B on c4 and Q on f file) meets the check on h4: 
click for larger viewHe spent some time here maybe 20 seconds and played 10 Kf1, which basically amounts to backing down from your strategy and missing the obvious CRAZY/SHARP line. crap pc suggests this line:
10. g3 Qg4
11. Qxg4 Bxg4
12. Rf1 f5
13. exf5 Bxf5
14. Bxf4 O-O-O
15. Bg5 Re8+
16. Kd2 Bg4 (black slightly ahead 0.4)
our game continues:
10....Be6 (pc suggests Be7 maybe prefers kingside 00? as the game was going on I thought 10...Bg4 would have been a knock out and started to figure I missed out, but the pc says no big deal after: 11. Qf2 Qe7 12. Bxf4 O-O-O black still ahead 1.3 pts) 11 Bxe6 fxe6
12 Nc3 000
13 Bd2 d5
14 e5 Bb4
15 a3 Bxc3
16 Bxc3 (note that a fianch B. behind a wall of pawns is a positional minus, not a plus) 16...Qe7 (all my pieces going backwards, but it's OK I'm ahead in material) 17 h3 Nh4 (not sure what my idea was)
18 Qxh4?? (I laughed, the game ended in a mate with N/Q on g2 a few moves later). The obvious move is 18 Qg4 f3 which will blow up whites k side but is survivable after: 19. gxf3 Nxf3
20. Bb4 Qf7
21. Ke2 Qf5
22. Qxf3 Qxc2+
23. Ke3 Qb3+
24. Bc3
fantasy position after 24..Bc3 white ahead
click for larger viewtotal time, he wound up using all 3 minutes in the mating net that followed loss of queen, I only used 2 min |
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| Feb-07-15 | | refutor: Shaw's book recommends Nc3 as the key move in almost all the lines (lots transpose into a Vienna with f4)...if so, why not just spend time working out a + v. 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.f4 d5 and save 500 pages or so :) |
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Feb-25-15
 | | offramp: I've played white and black in the KGA. I've come to realize that in order to have chances white must give up a piece as early as possible. Giving up just the f-pawn is useless. As we all know, f7 has to be the site for the sacrifice, and that should give really good practical chances. |
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| Feb-25-15 | | Pirandus: What is your opinion about Bronstein's Kings Gambit parties in the 1960-70 years? |
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| Feb-25-15 | | Petrosianic: <What is your opinion about Bronstein's Kings Gambit parties in the 1960-70 years?> The punch and hors d'ouevres always ran out too early. |
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Feb-25-15
| | offramp: <Pirandus: What is your opinion about Bronstein's Kings Gambit parties in the 1960-70 years?> They are superb. |
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| Jul-26-15 | | Mr. V: I played the following game on FICS. This was my third King's Gambit and the first game I didn't get wiped off the board in this opening. It begins with the gambit declined but I think it belongs here due to the way events went. I know we must have missed some obvious tactics so please point them out if you see any! Me: White
1. e4 e5
2. f4 d6
3. Bc4 exf4
4. d4 Qh4+
5. g3 fxg3
6. Nf3 Qh3
7. Qe2 g2
8. Rg1 Bg4
9. Kf2 Be7
10. Bf4 Nf6
11. e5 Nh5
12. exd6 0-0
13. dxe7 Re8
14. Be5 Nd7
15. Bxf7+ Kh8
16. Bxh5 Bxh5
17. Rxg2 Rxe7
18. Rg2 Qf5
Here I lost on time. It was the most fun game I've played in a while! I will play this opening again. Please tell me if you have any comments or see any obvious mistakes. I'm not a very good player as you can see but this was fun! |
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| Jul-27-15 | | Mr. V: Could someone please give a general outline of the names of the main lines of the King's Gambit? |
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Jul-28-15
 | | tpstar: <Mr. V> The first branch point is King's Gambit Accepted versus Declined. 2 ... Bc5 is the best way to decline, and note 3. fxe5?? Qh4+ wins instantly for Black (4. g3 Qxe4+; 4. Ke2? Qxe4#). Another way to decline is 2 ... d5 named the Falkbeer Counter Gambit, then other decline lines by Black are quite rare because the best way to refute a gambit is to accept it. For the KGA with 2 ... exf4, 3. Bc4 is the Little Bishop's Gambit bravely allowing 3 ... Qh4+, then most other variations feature 3. Nf3. The old 3. Nf3 g5 is the Kieseritzky Line clutching the Pawn while weakening the Kingside and delaying development; 4. Bc4 g4 5. 0-0!? gxf3 is the Muzio Gambit, while 4. h4 g4 5. Ne5 h5 is the Long Whip Line. Game Collection: Kieseritsky Gambits and it's many flavors 3 ... d5 is the Abbazia Defense, opening up Black's game immediately. 3 ... d6 is the Fischer Defense, aiming for a dark square blockade with ... h6 preventing White Knight incursions on e5 or g5. 3 ... Be7 is the Cunningham Defense intending 4 ... Bh4+ and White can't castle. ECO figured this all out long ago:
King's Gambit Declined (C30)
King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit (C31)
King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit (C32)
King's Gambit Accepted (C33)
King's Gambit Accepted (C34)
King's Gambit Accepted, Cunningham (C35)
King's Gambit Accepted, Abbazia Defense (C36)
King's Gambit Accepted (C37)
King's Gambit Accepted (C38)
King's Gambit Accepted (C39)
Your game began as a King's Gambit Declined with 1. e4 e5 2. f4 d6, then transposed to a Fischer Defense with 3. Bc4 exf4. After 6. Nf3: 
click for larger viewBlack missed 6 ... g2+! 7. Nxh4 gxh1=Q+ winning a Rook. Watch out for this trap next time. Good Luck! =) |
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| Jul-28-15 | | Mr. V: <tpstar>
Wow, thanks! That's very thorough and I know I'll use this reference again. And thanks for pointing out the trap in my game also |
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| Jan-20-17 | | iking: Wesley So now uses this defensive scheme ... |
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Mar-14-17
| | tpstar: <Mr. V> See how I turned that outline post into a reference article on the King's Gambit (Page 22-23): http://bt.royle.com/publication/ind... Good Luck! |
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| Mar-23-17 | | Mr. V: <tpstar> Wow! Looks great. Thank you very much. This is definitely an opening that never gets old to play. |
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Mar-23-17
| | tpstar: <Mr. V> We were all surprised to see a King's Gambit at the elite level just now = B Adhiban vs W So, 2017 As Black, Fischer was on to something with 3 ... d6 and the dark square blockade while consolidating the gambit Pawn, and now the database statistics can back him up. Watch the progression for yourself: Opening Explorer Opening Explorer Opening Explorer Opening Explorer |
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Jan-03-19
 | | GrahamClayton: One of the more unusual lines for White which isn't in the database is the Gaga Gambit 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. g3 fxg3 4. ♘xf3 gxh2. White can continue with 5.d4 or 5.♘c3, develop his queenside and then try to exploit the open files on the kingside. |
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| Jan-03-19 | | Count Wedgemore: <GrahamClayton> Very aptly named, because you have to be pretty gaga to play it. |
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Oct-03-24
| | keypusher: < saffuna: Say a 2500 player who plays 1...e5 is in a high-level Swiss, so he won't be preparing a long time for his opponents.
Is it likely he will have extensive knowledge of the variations of the Kings Gambit? The opening seems to have so many traps, a weaker player who knows the opening well could certainly win against a stronger player whose knowledge isn't as deep.> Hopefully a stronger player will answer, but...
I'm trying to play 1....e5 these days, and one of the difficulties is that double-king pawn games have been around forever, so there's a lot of openings to worry about. In addition to the Ruy Lopez, the Giuoco Piano and the Scotch are popular and present plenty of problems. The King's Gambit is rare in these parts, but it does seem worth worrying about. There are ways to try to reduce the amount the Black player has to memorize. A repertoire book I have tries to deal with the King's Gambit by recommending 2....Bc5. It's certainly not a bad defense, but I don't think it's the strongest, and White has a number of sensible continuations.... An analogous approach, but probably stronger, is to play 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5, but then after 3.exd5 play 3....exf4 instead of 3....e4. (White can also play 3.Nf3, but then 3....exf4 will almost certainly transpose and 3....fxe4 seems pretty good for Black anyway.) My impression is that that sequence has gotten popular at high levels as a way to get to a good position and cut out a lot of theory. White's overwhelmingly popular move after 3....exf4 is 4.Nf3, then 4....Nf6 and you'll usually see 5.Bb5+ or 5.Bc4, either of which is supposed to be fine for Black. The other approach would be to have a line against the Bishop's Gambit, which isn't supposed to be that good and you probably won't see much (probably 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3 c6), and concentrate on a line like 2....exf4 3.Nf3 d6, and then you've got to memorize lines after 4.Bc4 h6 and 4.d4 g5. |
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