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| nuwanda: Vidmar has written a wonderful book himself, i know it only in German (dont know if available in other languages), called "Goldene Schachzeiten" (Golden Chesstimes). There he tells us a lot about his life, and of course especially about chess, in a time where chess had a lot to do with honor and fairness. There are many beautiful storys with all the greats of his times. In this book e.g. he writes that he had played against Reshewski (<RookFile>!!), when he (Res) was a wunderkind, 5 years old and toured through europe with his father playing chess (he beat him and the little boy cried). He, Vidmar, was the man who played the fairest move ever played in England. The resigned an adjourned game (in a lost position) against Capablanca, when Capa didnt show up in time to continue the game after a misunderstanding. Nobody could have blamed him, if he just had won on time, but he preferred to lay down his king when he recognized whats going on. So he could have won a game against Capa (<CapablancaFan>!!), but he chooses his honor. I think he was a wonderful person and had a very rich life and you <TheAlchemist> and all of your countrymen could very well be proud of him. P.S.: If Timman really said that whats mention above, it was a really very stupid comment |
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Jun-22-07
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| Karpova: In 1936 Vidmar played six quick games against Reshevsky (it wasn't a formal match) and won 3.5 - 2.5
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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| Jun-22-07 |
| BIDMONFA: Milan Vidmar VIDMAR, Milan
http://www.bidmonfa.com/vidmar_mila...
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Jun-30-07
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| brankat: <newanda> <Vidmar has written a wonderful book himself, i know it only in German (dont know if available in other languages), called "Goldene Schachzeiten" (Golden Chesstimes).. I'm so glad You mentioned the book. For many years I've tried to get the copy! If this is the same book, that I have in mind, then it was first published in 1951( or so), in Yugoslavia. The English translation would be something like: "Fifty years over the Chess board". I don't know if there is an English translation. <TheAlchemist> said that there was an edition in Slovenian (one of former Yugoslav republics) some 10 years ago. But the edition was quite limited and sold out in no time. I've tried to "google" the title and also checked E-Bay, but found nothing there. P.S. Regarding Timman's comment, at the time Timman was an arrogant punk. Between, roughly, 1911- 1930 DR.Vidmar was amongst some 6--8 strongest Chess Masters in the world. And, he was never even a professional player! |
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Jun-30-07
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| brankat: <<Karpova>: In 1936 Vidmar played six quick games against Reshevsky (it wasn't a formal match) and won 3.5 - 2.5>> In 1935, Paris, "Cafe de La Regence> Dr. Vidmar played an informal match ("coffee-house" type) against Alekhine. The score: Alekhine won 5.5 - 4.5! |
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Jul-15-07
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| Karpova: <In this connection I will relate an anecdote about Dr Vidmar, one of the best players in the world who is also a man of science and a man of great ingenuity. At the London Tournament in 1922, in which we both participated, there was a relatively young player who did not have much experience. On a certain occasion, in a game in which he was carrying out a violent attack he sacrificed a piece (or two or three pawns; I do not remember exactly), but it could be seen that this gentleman, despite the attack, would reach an endgame a piece (or pawns) down. With regard to this case, Vidmar remarked that “he had not yet learned that it was the opponent’s pieces that had to be sacrificed”. I mention this anecdote because in reality one should never sacrifice anything when one is playing to win. Although, I repeat, it is a good exercise for young players with little experience. But those who are already knowledgeable and aspire to the first rank should do what Vidmar said: try to sacrifice the opponent’s pieces, since otherwise the attack almost always makes no progress.> Jose Raul Capablanca
Club de Comunicaciones de Prado in Cuba on 25 May 1932
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Jul-15-07
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| Karpova: <With the exception of Rudolph [sic] Spielmann of Austria, whose chances of victory at this stage are becoming more evident, the play of Dr M. Vidmar of Yugoslavia deserves mention. His style may be characterized as “robust”, which also applies to his personality. His conception of chess is both simple and sound and his very plain, yet highly effective style of play may be described as follows: In the opening he invariably seeks to obtain the initiative, that is, he aims to gain both time and space even at the cost of sacrifice. When he plays the black pieces, on the other hand, he is content to establish a safe defensive position, which he then endeavours to convert into a draw when opposed by players of equal strength. The weaker opponents he seeks to entice into unsound sacrifice attacks. In this connection he reveals a concealed characteristic which not infrequently enables him to win. He has a certain good-natured rustic slyness characteristic of his Slovene countrymen. All told he is, perhaps, no lion in the realm of chess, but he is highly dangerous to those who permit themselves to be intimidated by his apparent harmlessness. He was the first player to take half a point from the leader.> Alexander Alekhine
On Carlsbad 1929 for the New York Times
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Aug-14-07
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| brankat: <Karpova> Thank You for the link. |
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Oct-19-07
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| brankat: One of Dr.M.Vidmar's famoous games:
Rubinstein vs Vidmar, 1918 |
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Oct-19-07
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| brankat: Some notes regarding Rubinstein-Vidmar game.
This is one of Dr.M.Vidmar's most famous win, it may not be his most characteristic game. Reti, in "Masters of the Chessboard", speaks of Vidmar's "lucidity and technical perfection".. This is a very sharp game, though far from flawless.. According to Soltis, there is an entertaining story associated with this game. Vidmar had arrived early, and he was in despair about what he should play against the " High priest" of <d4>. A Hungarian master who was present asked him whether he had heard of the Budapest Defense. Vidmar said no. The Hungarian gave him a five minute tutorial on the defense. Vidmar promptly played it and won. As Rubinstein declined the repetition on move 21 I guess he thought he was winning?! This game inspired the other participants of the tournament to play the Budapest against Rubinstein who managed only one draw from three white games. There is also a story in one of Czerniak books. Czerniak said that this was the birth of the Budapest gambit. Rubinstein was completely surprised (as we can see by the game), The Hungarian master who taught Vidmar was Abony. A similar thing happened to Dr.Vidmar a few times, where before a tournament he would ask his good friend Nimzovitch for openings suggestions. Since Vidmar was a full time university Professor he never had much time for preparations. |
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Feb-17-08
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| Jonathan Sarfati: Yes, Timman really did say disparaging things about Vidmar in an otherwise good book on chess analysis. He was speaking of a Vidmar Memorial Tournament, then said that he had seen plenty of Vidmar's losses, so the tournament was "an exaggerated mark or respect for a frankly not very brilliant player" or words similar. Yet although Vidmar played rarely, he was 2= with Rubinstein in San Sebastian 1911, and 5th at Carlsbad 1929, and high places in between in tournaments with the world's best. |
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Feb-17-08
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| brankat: <Jonathan Sarfati> Thank you for Your comments. A few months ago I had compiled Dr.Vidmar's scores against 25 leading chess masters for the period from 1905 to 1935. Vidmar's prime years. The stats is posted at the top of page #2, this site. Here is the Total:
TOTAL....194 games 64 wins 41 losses 89 draws = 55.9% Quite an admirable rate of success against the best. Again, a pity Dr.Vidmar didn't commit himself more to the pursuit of his Chess career. To addto the above: Dr.Vidmar did have international successes when still quite young, between 1905-1910. A couple of Nordic Championships, good showing in Carlsbad 1909 and S.Sebastian the same year(2nd). But he really got into prominence with 1911 San Sebastian (2/3). Between 1911 till about Bled of 1931 he was consistently amongst the 6 strongest masters. Also, 3rd in super strong London 1923, 3rd in very strong Semmering Baden 1926, shared 1st (with Alekhine) in Hastings 1926/27, 4th in super tournament Bled, 1931. Again, Dr.Vidmar never pursued a professional Chess career, but focused mostly on his academic career in electrical engineering, as a University Professor (a Dean of the University of Ljubljana) and an author. It was J.R.Capablanca who remarked sometime in the '20s that he felt fortunate Vidmar was torn between Chess and his career, otherwise, he felt, his title would have been in serious jeopardy! |
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Jun-22-08
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| brankat: R.I.P. Dr.Vidmar! |
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| Aug-29-08 |
| myschkin: . . .
Milan Vidmar wurde am 22.6.1885 im slowenischen Ljubljana geboren und studierte nach der Schulausbildung in Wien an der Technischen Hochschule. Trotz seiner Liebe zum Schach schloss er im Gegensatz zu seinen Freunden wie Reti und Tartakower seine Ausbildung ab, wurde Elektrotechniker und Fachspezialist für Transformatorenbau, schließlich gar Universitätsprofessor in seiner Heimatstadt Ljubljana. Damit war er einer der wenigen führenden Schachmeister mit Amateurstatus.Vidmars 1951 geschriebene "Goldene Schachzeiten". Gewiss, seine Erinnerungen an die Schachszene der ersten Hälfte des 20. Jahrhunderts sind sehr persönlich und subjektiv, aber gerade deswegen auch sehr lebendig und wo sonst noch lässt ein Zeitzeuge diese Schachepoche so wieder auferstehen, als würden wir sie miterleben?
Drei Schwerpunkte kann man bei Vidmars Werk ausmachen. Einmal die Darstellung der eigenen Turnierlaufbahn mit ihren Höhen und Tiefen und mit all den dabei gesammelten Erlebnissen und Erfahrungen. Dann die Erinnerung an viele Meister und Turniere der damaligen Zeit und schließlich die Beschäftigung mit allgemeinen Fragen des Schachspiels und des Schachmeisterberufes. Freilich sind diese drei Schwerpunkte nicht voneinander zu trennen und Vidmar verwebt diese auch geschickt miteinander.
Der Inhalt des Buches wird in etwa auch noch an den Kapitelüberschriften deutlich: 1 . Nottingham 1936 2. Ein gewaltiges Ringen um die Weltmeisterschaft 3. Die Schachsirene (Lockungen und Verführungen des Schachspiels) 4. Erinnerungen an S. Tarrasch 5. Das Berufmeisterproblem 6. Die den großen Meistern tickende Uhr 7. Das Fallenstellen in der großen Schachpartie 8. Das Ende eines Weltmeistertraumes 9. Ist das heutige Schach krank? Leider fehlt im Anhang ein Personenindex, der gerade bei diesem Werk sehr nützlich wäre, sind doch viele Schachmeisterbiographien gestreift! Insgesamt ein wirklich schönes Erinnerungsbuch mit vielen liebevollen Details aus dem Schachleben der ersten Hälfte des 20.Jahrhunderts, der Epoche der Weltmeister Lasker, Capablanca, Aljechin und Euwe sowie vieler Meister wie Bogoljubow, Janowski, Maroczy, Nimzowitsch, Pillsbury, Reti, Rubinstein, Schlechter, Spielmann, Tarrasch, Tartakower, Teichmann, Tschigorin und wie sie all heißen. Geistreich, manchmal humorvoll, manchmal nachdenklich geschrieben von einem Insider, mit 12 Fotos und ca. 30 kommentierten Partien garniert. |
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Sep-09-08
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| Sem: Myschkin, ich besitze 'Goldene Schachzeiten' und ich bin davon überzeugt daß Sie recht haben: Vidmar schreibt zwar subjektiv aber gerade deswegen sehr lebendig. |
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| Sep-09-08 |
| myschkin: . . .
<Sem>,
ich habe meine Quelle nicht angegeben, weil ich zum Zeitpunkt meiner Ausführungen noch etwas schluderig (~nicht allzu wissenschaftlich) war - naja, ein wenig hat sich das gebessert :) Sie dürfen mich selbstverständlich duzen, wobei ich mir vorbehalte sie zu siezen. Bin ich doch noch halbwegs grün hinter den Ohren. Es freut mich mich, dass Sie es gelesen und geantwortet haben. Ermuntert es doch weiterhin die Augen offen zu halten und Geschichten zu finden, die sich dank dieses Spiels überlieferten und überliefern.
Viele Grüsse und weiterhin Freude rund ums Schach^^ |
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| Jun-19-09 |
| Crocomule: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Korchnoi play a series of games with Vidmar's ghost? |
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Jun-20-09
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| brankat: I understand just a bit of German, so it would be helpful to have the English translation of what seem to be interesting comments :-) |
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| Jun-20-09 |
| andrewjsacks: Dr. Vidmar is one of the most underrated and overlooked great players in the history of chess. |
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Jun-20-09
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| brankat: Alekhine vs Vidmar, 1926 |
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Jun-20-09
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| brankat: Vidmar vs Euwe, 1929 |
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Jun-20-09
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| brankat: Rubinstein vs Vidmar, 1918 |
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Jun-20-09
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| brankat: Three of my favourite Vidmar masterpieces. |
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Jun-22-09
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| brankat: It is Dr.Vidmar's birthday today! Next year will be his 125th anniversary. R.I.P. Dr.Vidmar.
Btw, he shares the birthday with P.Morpy. |
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| Jun-22-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Happy birthday to Dr Vidmar |
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