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|Oct-23-12|| ||brankat: <TheAlchemist> Then the field must have been pretty strong.|
Hi and thank You for the story Uros!
Which reminds me of some anecdotal material from more than 40 years ago.
In my chess club back in the old country (Yugoslavia) we used to play (occasionally) what we called "consultation games", although there were no consultations taking place.
Something like couples in tennis or table tennis. Two players against two, taking turns to make moves, just like in the above simul.
You are right, the tough part was < figuring out the plan of the previous person. >. At the same time that was a fun part.
|Nov-28-12|| ||Karpova: From C.N. 7864
Vidmar at around 2:20 min in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxDx...
|Nov-28-12|| ||Stonehenge: He really had guts to not bring the Hitler salute in that company. Good for him.|
|Nov-28-12|| ||Karpova: The first video of that event features him around 4:44 min: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p-N...|
|Jun-23-13|| ||brankat: Always fondly remembered!
|Jun-24-13|| ||whiteshark: <brankat: Always fondly remembered!>
I'll second that!
His splendid memoirs <Goldene Schachzeiten> (Golden Chess Times) is a unique, firsthand (eyewitness) report of the <Golden Chess Times>.
|Jun-24-13|| ||brankat: <whiteshark> First time I heard of the book was way back in 1966. I've never been able to get one. |
Yugoslav edition(s) were sold out. The book was titled "Fifty years over the Chessboard", published in 1951. I assume it is the same book (The Golden Times..".
Some ten years ago the book was published in Slovene language. By the time I heard about the edition was sold out again. I couldn't find an English edition, assuming there has been one. And I don't know how to go about obtaining the German issue.
I think Dr.Vidmar also wrote a 2 volume auto-biography. And a few other works.
|Nov-02-13|| ||WCC Editing Project: |
<Milan Vidmar's> recollections of signing the <London Rules> of 1922.
"Merkwürdigerweise kam es mir, als ich das Londoner Statut unterschrieb, nicht zum Bewustsein, das nun mien Jugendplan Schiffbruch gelitten, das mein Weltmeisterstraum engültig ausgeträumt war. Es hatte mir doch sofort klar sein mussen, das ich nicht die geringste Aussicht hatte, zehntausend Dolar fur meine Heraus forderung aufzubringen, es sei denn, ich hatte meine Betatigung in der elektrotechnischen Welt sofort liquidiert und mich in die weite Welt auf die Such nach dem sich meiner annehmenden Mäzen begeben."
Again, <Karpova> or another German speaker will be able to supply a better translation, but it reads something like this in English:
<"Strangely, it came to me when I signed the London Agreement, I had not been fully conscious that I had just definitively shipwrecked the dreams of my youth to become world champion. It was clear that <<<I did not have the slightest chance to raise ten thousand dollars for my challenge>>> unless I gave up my career as an electrical engineer and began a search the world over looking for a patron [who could supply the $10,000 purse].">
"Golden Schachzeiten (2d auflage)"
(Walter de Gruyter 1981), p.176
|Jan-20-14|| ||brankat: It was more or less the same with the other co-signers of the agreement, particularly Nimzowitch and Rubinstein. |
But, fairly enough, Capablanca did get the taste of his own medicine after 1927.
|Jan-20-14|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <brankat>
<Capablanca> was more than willing to play <Nimzowitsch> and <Rubinstein> for the title, but of course neither could raise the funds.
So chess history, and we, were deprived of what may have been incredible matches.
<"taste of his own medicine">
Yes, <Johnny Alekhine> made good and sure of that, long past the time that he'd made his point, in my view.
By the time <Johnny> had beaten <Bogoljubov> the second time, I think that after that <Johnny> should bear at least equal responsibility for depriving us of the match everyone wanted to see, but never happened: <Alekhine-Capablanca> rematch.
I think this ranks as perhaps the greatest "title match that never happened," second maybe only to "Fischer-Karpov."
Subject to (endless) debate.
|Jun-21-14|| ||bengalcat47: I heard a story once about a tournament game between Vidmar and Nimzowitsch. Because Nimzowitsch had a reputation for complaining and being very fussy he hated smoking. Vidmar had graciously agreed not to smoke while playing against Nimzowitsch even though Vidmar loved to smoke. After their game started Nimzowitsch got up and complained to Maroczy who was serving a kind of "referee" for the game. Maroczy remarked, "He's (Vidmar) not smoking." Nimzowitsch replied, "No, but he keeps looking as if he wants to." If anyone knows when and where this occured let me know please. Thanks!|
|Jun-21-14|| ||Rookiepawn: <bengalcat47> Most accounts on this story mention Vidmar as Nimzo's rival, though some say it was another chess player. |
As I read the story, it seems that Vidmar took out a pack of cigarettes and though not smoking, he placed it on the table.
When Maroczy said "...but Vidmar is not smoking", Nimzo replied "As a chessplayer, you should know that threaten is stronger than execution".
|Jun-21-14|| ||Penguincw: R.I.P. to Milan Vidmar, Yugoslavia's first GM (7 years later there would be 7 GMs).|
|Jul-23-14|| ||HeMateMe: There are 4 games Milan Vidmar v. Milan Vidmar (his son, an IM), but I don't know if this site is able to differentiate between the two.|
|Jul-23-14|| ||zanzibar: Yes, <CG> can differentiate, the son has "Jr" in the name:|
Milan Vidmar Jr
A search on Milan Vidmar should return both:
And for aficionados:
Milan Vidmar (pid = 10226)
Milan Vidmar Jr (pid = 26364)
|Oct-24-14|| ||ljfyffe: He is remembered not only in chess circles, but even more in Slovenian technical science history.
His specialisation was in the field of transformers and his inventions are world-renowned. <ICCF Gold>|
|Nov-13-14|| ||ljfyffe: Win the Correspondence League Championship
|Dec-04-15|| ||Sularus: Capablanca's meat. :)|
|Jun-22-16|| ||JimNorCal: Sounds like an excellent guy, with admirable chess achievements considering it was a hobby for him. Still, this snip from his bio above seems a bit of a stretch:
"In tournaments ... he was ... 4th at New York 1927."|
OK, he was 4th. Out of six players. He scored 50% in that tourney. A tough field (Capa, Alekhine) but not the kind of result that is usually chosen as notable.
|Jun-22-16|| ||andrewjsacks: Happy birthday to a great player who often does not get the recognition he deserves. Capa said that had Vidmar been a full-time professional player, his (Capa's) WC title might be thus in jeopardy.|
|Jun-22-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Milan Vidmar.|
|Jun-22-16|| ||brankat: Happy Birthday! The same date of birth as Paul Morphy.|
|Jun-22-16|| ||brankat: Some 10 years ago I had compiled Vidmar,s (partial) stats against the leading masters of the period between about 1906- to 1935. Quite revealing. That would be on page #1 .|
|Jun-30-16|| ||diagonal: The <Vidmar Memorial> series is relaunched as international invitation tournament. These are the players of the XX jubilee edition in 2016: http://www.vidmarjevmemorial.si/vel...|
Fist edition Held in 1969, causing an upset: Albin Planinc was the darkest of dark horses: Vidmar Memorial (1969) (Chessgames), a MUST Read for all who are interested in tournament history.
Albo d'Oro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidma... (Wikipedia)
|Aug-04-16|| ||brankat: A big time upset indeed. I remember it quite well. All of us following the tournament could hardly believe what was happening.|
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