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|Jan-23-15|| ||mcgee: >>A question for chess historians and Anderssen fans: Do you think Anderssen's style changed after Morphy entered the scene in the late 1850's? Morphy was influential and changed the way the game was played but did Anderssen also change his style a bit?<<
The general consensus is that he did change his style and start to study the game more seriously. Given that he had few if any bad results in his career other than the Morphy thrashing, it's easy to understand why people feel he might have given a better account of himself in the 1858 match had he studied properly and had plenty of match and tournament practice. The six-year hiatus was an impossible hurdle for him to overcome and he admitted as much.|
Here's an Anderssen game against Steinitz from his tournament win at Baden-Baden in 1870 that I like a lot. It shows how finely his style had evolved - the tactics serve a purpose beyond the idea of a quick checkmate and are combined with excellent positional judgement.
Anderssen vs Steinitz, 1870
|Jan-23-15|| ||mcgee: And another excellent game against Steinitz from their 1866 match. Again, Anderssen had played little or no serious chess after winning at London in 1862 which gives grounds to believe that Steinitz's narrow win (8-6, no draws) may have been reversed in different circumstances. |
Steinitz vs Anderssen, 1866
|Jan-23-15|| ||mcgee: I mean an excellent positional game|
|Apr-04-15|| ||zanzibar: This could go either in Morphy's or Anderssen's page. I put it here since I have a Berliner follow-up:|
— A Paris letter, says: "Mr. Morphy may shortly pay a fiyixg visit to Berlin, for the purpose or playing a few games with Liege, Dafresne and Mayet.
Anderssen particularly requested him so-to do, to close the months of the Berliners.
<New York Daily-Tribune, Thursday Feb 3, 1859 p6>
And note that Anderssen was not a Berliner himself, though the foreign press often identified him as such.
For those interested in a little more about what comes out of the mouths of Berliners:
|May-12-15|| ||TheFocus: <It is ... impossible to keep one's excellence in a little glass casket, like a jewel, to take it out whenever wanted. On the contrary, it can only be conserved by continuous and good practice> - Adolph Anderssen.|
|May-15-15|| ||TheFocus: <Attack! Always Attack!> - Adolf Anderssen.|
|Jul-06-15|| ||ketchuplover: I hereby change his middle name to Attack.|
|Jul-06-15|| ||offramp: <Zanzibar: This could go either in Morphy's or Anderssen's page. I put it here since I have a Berliner follow-up:
— A Paris letter, says: "Mr. Morphy may shortly pay a fiyixg visit to Berlin>
|Jul-06-15|| ||choosea: > Randomness is scary! After watching this game, I immediately set up a 3m blitz between Morphy and Anderssen in Chessmaster: GM Edition (which is a great program).|
The result left me shocked. After 8 seconds of thinking by Anderssen and 1(!) second by Morphy, they had reached the EXACT same game as here!
>> Morphy plays unofficial world champion Anderssen and blows him off the board.
>> 'Staunton ducked a match with Morphy'.
>> Morphy was simply much better than anyone else in the world.
Morphy vs Anderssen, 1858
|Jul-06-15|| ||ughaibu: Mcgee: supposedly Anderssen had the best tournament record before Lasker, but his match results weren't very good.|
|Aug-21-15|| ||WTHarvey: A short, 'no ad' print edition copy of "Adolf Anderssen: 59 brilliancies from his chess games" is available at http://wtharvey.com/andepe.html Find the winning moves.|
|Mar-31-16|| ||offramp: Did you know that the German abbreviation Gmbh stands for Gambit Hotel? |
Anderssen used to live there.
|Sep-18-16|| ||perfidious: <offramp> Indeed Anderssen did, and he gave as good as he got while residing in that venue.|
|Jul-06-17|| ||The Kings Domain: The master at nearly two centuries and the legacy lives on.|
|Jul-06-17|| ||Nosnibor: Our player of the day did not fare so well against Der Lasa in informal matches. Losing 6-3 on known games. Mention of this was made by Staunton in his book of the 1851 Chess Tournament.|
|Jul-06-17|| ||Olavi: Chessmetrics.com has 21 von der Lasa - Anderssen games, AA scoring 7 points. It is not at all clear whether Stunton should be considered number one pre-1851.|
|Jul-06-17|| ||Nosnibor: <Olavi> I agree with your suggestion and based on limited information probably von der Lasa was the strongest having beaten Anderssen during informal games and also beating Staunton in an informal match in 1853 Because of his duties as an ambassador der Lasa only had limited time to play and was due to play in the 1851 Tournament but was unable to enter owing to these duties.|
|Jul-06-17|| ||vermapulak: As per wiki :-
He played several matches and defeated the strongest masters in the period 1843–1853. He won against Henry Thomas Buckle 2-1 (1843), Adolf Anderssen 4-2 (1845), Johann Löwenthal 6-1 (1846), John William Schulten 4-1 (1850), Anderssen 10-5 (1851), and Howard Staunton 7-6 (1853).
|May-31-18|| ||morfishine: Anderssen is one of the greatest chess players ever! If nothing else, his originality came to the fore-front|
I regret not posting here sooner. A more admirable and humble man than Anderssen is hard to find
|Jul-06-18|| ||offramp: This great player would have been 200 years old today! I love his great Gothic games, with craggy pawn structures and kings wandering around like demented grandfathers.|
Two hundred years already, eh?
The way time passes.
|Jul-06-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: < I love his great Gothic games, with craggy pawn structures and kings wandering around like demented grandfathers?>|
Demented grandfathers wandering around in crappy gowns, show a little respect!
|Oct-20-18|| ||MissScarlett: <Edward Winter has these Steinitz quotes, taken from his <International Chess Magazine>:|
<February 1885, page 46:
Paul Morphy (kibitz #6932)
‘When I first met Anderssen in 1862, he spoke in the highest possible terms of Morphy. ... In 1866 I had another conversation with Anderssen about Morphy. The professor had much cooled down in his enthusiasm, and he did not seem to think that Morphy could always have beaten him for certain. My own impression is that Anderssen, who could not play a single game blindfold, was at first overawed by Morphy’s wonderful sans voir performances, and he overworked himself by calculations out of his real depth. But he subsequently found that he could hold his own against blindfold players like Blackburne, Paulsen, Suhle and Zukertort, by relying on his natural fine judgment, and then he began to doubt whether his fear was based on real grounds.>>
Is it really conceivable that Anderssen couldn't play even one game blindfold? Can anyone identify a game, occasion or source to the contrary?
Steinitz has the reputation of being a skilled and careful writer, so there doesn't appear to be much, if any, wiggle room.
|Oct-20-18|| ||nok: <Steinitz has the reputation of being a skilled and careful writer> lol lol|
|Oct-21-18|| ||Jean Defuse: ...
<MissScarlett: ... Is it really conceivable that Anderssen couldn't play even one game blindfold? Can anyone identify a game, occasion or source to the contrary?>
Blind games by Anderssen are very rare, but <Steinitz's quote isn't true!> ... - an example of Anderssen's 'sans voir skills' was given on page 13. at Bird's book 'Chess Masterpiece':
Harrwitz vs Anderssen, 1848
Comments by Henry Edward Bird:
20. Ng3 [Well played.]
25. Qg5 [If the Knight is taken by 25. exf6 the piece can be regained with Qe3+.]
29... Ne3 [Ingenious and perfectly sound, in fact, practically deciding the game in Anderssen favor. This interesting and excellent game, played by both without sight of board and men, would be considered a masterpiece if played by any two players with the board and men before them.]
Another game was published at the 'Schachzeitung 1849 Vol 4' on page 141 (both played sans voir):
[Event "Blindfold Game"]
[Black "Anderssen, Adolf"]
1. e4 d5 2. e5 e6 3. d4 c5 4. c3 Qb6 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. Qb3 cxd4 7. Qxb6 axb6 8. cxd4 Nb4 9. Na3 Bd7 10. Be2 Rxa3 11. bxa3 Nc2+ 12. Kd2 Nxa1 13. Bb2 Ne7 14. Bd3 Nc8 15. Rxa1 b5 16. Ne1 Nb6 17. Nc2 Be7 18. f4 O-O 19. Nb4 f6 20. Rf1 Nc4+ 21. Kc3 fxe5 22. fxe5 Ra8 23. Bc1 Nxa3 24. Rf3 Rc8+ 25. Kb3 Rxc1 26. Kxa3 Rc3+ 27. Kb2 Bxb4 28. Bxh7+ Kxh7 29. Rxc3 Bxc3+ 30. Kxc3 Kg6 0-1
Eliot Hearst & John Knott - Blindfold Chess, p. 29:
'Anderssen occasionally played blindfold chess, and once he played against the sighted Kieseritzky at Simpson’s Divan in The Strand, London, in June of 1851, just after he had beaten Kieseritzky in the first round of the international tournament. Kieseritzky gave a pawn handicap and allowed Anderssen the white pieces and two moves at the start of the game. Perhaps Kieseritzky felt he had achieved a measure of revenge after his loss in the regular tournament, because he won this struggle despite the odds he gave. On the other hand, Anderssen played blindfolded while Kieseritzky did not.'
|Nov-13-18|| ||MissScarlett: I'm wondering whether he suffered - if that's the word - from mandibular prognathism. That's some chin on him!|
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