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| Jul-16-09 | | Jeff Popp: I have a son with Asberger Syndrome and, based on my mother's descriptions, I would very strongly suspect the Bojo did as well. |
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| Jul-22-09 | | SirChrislov: One of my co-workers' name is efim and his ukranian compatriots call him "fima". |
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| Sep-01-09 | | percyblakeney: The First Bogoljubov Memorial was won by Malakhov ahead of Dreev and Zvjaginsev, but apparently it was another Bogoljubov: http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/twi... |
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| Sep-01-09 | | DCP23: <percyblakeney> That event was organized and sponsored by the nuclear physics research facility based in Dubna which employs Malakhov. That is why it's named after Bogolubov-the-physicist, not Bogolubov-the-chessplayer. Malakhov's employer: http://tinyurl.com/mljbuk
Bogolubov: http://tinyurl.com/m5pqev |
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| Sep-14-09 | | percyblakeney: An interesting article on Bogo by Adrian Mikhalchishin: http://www.chesspro.ru/_events/2009...
http://translate.google.com/transla... |
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| Apr-14-10 | | eremite: Joint German-Ukrainian Bogoljubov Memorial events are underway at ICCF webserver:
http://www.iccf-webchess.com/EventC... http://www.iccf-webchess.com/EventC... http://www.iccf-webchess.com/EventC... |
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| Apr-14-10 | | AnalyzeThis: <Is it true that Alekine picked Bogo over Capablanca as his challenger because he knew Bogo was weaker? > Similar to asking if Bambi had a chance against Godzilla. Capa and Alekhine, and even old Lasker, took turns slapping Bogo around. |
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| Apr-14-10 | | backrank: Don't forget that Bogo finished 1st ahead of Lasker and Capa in Moscow 1925. He was already a bit past his prime when he played the first match vs. Alekhine in 1929, and yet he didn't score substantially worse than Capa did in 1927!
Moreover, Bogo had plus scores against Réti, Nimzowitsch, Spielmann and even Rubinstein. He often won against Alekhine in tournaments. I think he is one of the most underrated players of chess history. Like Marshall, he was a brilliant tournament player, but not an equally good match player. He wasn't particularly good at psychology or outwearing his opponent. Like Spassky, he was relying on natural talent rather than on hard work. Bogo seems to have stopped working on his openings and his technique after the mid 20s when he had reached his peak. He drew or even lost a number of games in his matches with Alehine (and otherwise) in 'technically' won positions. Opening theory and technical positions were his weak side, presumably because he got a bit bored here.
Never forget that Lasker was full of praise of Bogo. In Book 6 (Examples and Models) of Laskers Manual of Chess he gives 5 Bogo wins out of a total of 22 games!
In summary, we can say that Bogo was a player of supreme talent who didn't make the most of it. But this fact seems to be due of his personality. Instead of working hard on his chess, he was full of over-selfconfidence. Alekhine fought each game as if it were his life, while Bogo often seemed to lose interest in a game when he disliked the position.
Some time ago, I have made a game collection with Bogo's best games. Maybe you will take a look and make up your own opinion. |
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Apr-14-10
 | | mike1: yes, some players were even better than Bogoljubow. But he played the who is who for more than 40 years and scored +61%.No reason not to honour him for what he was; certainly a chess-great! |
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Apr-14-10
 | | whiteshark: <<backrank> ... Never forget that Lasker was full of praise of Bogo. In Book 6 (Examples and Models) of Laskers Manual of Chess he gives 5 Bogo wins out of a total of 22 games!> Right! Here they are, though I count six:
Bogoljubov vs P Romanovsky, 1924
Bogoljubov vs Reti, 1925
Nimzowitsch vs Bogoljubov, 1925
Bogoljubov vs Mieses, 1925
Bogoljubov vs Reti, 1925
Euwe vs Bogoljubov, 1928
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Apr-14-10
 | | wordfunph: The tradition of trash talking is by no means new to chess. In 1925 Ukrainian-German GM Efim Bogoljubow wrote some fairly nasty stuff about José Raúl Capablanca, and three years later was humiliated by the great Cuban in a highly instructive game. |
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| Apr-14-10 | | backrank: <whiteshark> You're right, it seems that I can't count up to six :) <wordfunph> What 'fairly nasty stuff' did he write about Capa? The only thing I can remember is that he wrote something of the sort that Capa has difficulties to part with his 'dry style'. On the other hand, Bogo highly praised the final combination of Capablanca vs N Zubarev, 1925 in the tournament book. |
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Apr-15-10
| | whiteshark: <backrank> Do you have any connections/relations to http://www.rankzero.de/ ? You are not poles apart, me thinks... :D (I could be completely misguided, though) |
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| May-29-10 | | indianchessupdates: . Bogoljubov vs Euwe - Two FIDE Championships
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Game Collection: Bogoljubov vs Euwe - Two FIDE Championships In 1928 and early 1929 Efim Bogoljubov and Max Euwe played two matches in Netherland. The first match was played in Amsterodam, Hague and Scheveningen and shortly before its beginning FIDE announced a bit surprisingly in a letter sent to both players that the winner of their match would become Champion of the FIDE. This decision of FIDE was mainly based on and backed by the fact that Max Euwe won Amateur world championship tournament in Hague 1928. The match got a nationwide attention in Netherland and Bogoljubov won it with score 5,5:4,5 (+3-2=5). The success of the first match was so great that one rich chess enthusiast decided to finance a match-revenge, that was held in several cities of Netherland in the end of 1928 and the beginning of 1929. Bogoljubov won this match with the same score as the first one 5,5:4,5 (+2-1=7). FIDE’s fifth Congress awarded him the title “Champion of FIDE” In short, the General Assembly approved the Central Committee’s decision to adopt the Bogoljubow v Euwe contest as the first match for the title of FIDE champion |
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| Jul-20-10 | | Jeff Popp: I visited my mother last week and got two new pics from the family album. http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/alb...
This first shows Efim standing on the left. It is obviously posed. The game must have been very interesting since two of the guys in the pic look to be sleeping. Perhaps some of you can identify the other people. This second pic is a family photo from much later in his life. If you look carefully you can see that Efim's lapel pin has been inked out. I suspect it was done by family member who didn't like swastickers. |
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Jul-20-10
| | whiteshark: <Jeff Popp>
The player on the right side is Akiba Rubinstein. Beneath him sitting is Alexander Alekhine. The player on the left side is Rudolf Spielmann. For the man, standing left to Alekhine it could be Alexey Sergeevich Selezniev. So I guess the picture is taken in Germany, most likely during the <Triberg tournament in July 1921>, where all five chessplayers participated (and where Bogoljubow lived with his family). For the 1921 tournament tables: http://www.rogerpaige.me.uk/tables1...
For comparison: Göteborg 1920 photo Alexey Sergeevich Selezniev (Alekhine didn't play there) |
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Jul-20-10
 | | MrMelad: Thanks a lot <Jeff Popp> and <whiteshark>! |
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| Jul-20-10 | | whiskeyrebel: The family pic shows his apparent warmth. Tourney photo's from his time often seem stuffy and cold. Thanks. |
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| Jul-21-10 | | Jeff Popp: It would appear my mother sold some family photos without my knowledge... http://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped... |
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Apr-11-11
 | | HeMateMe: No Bogo posts in the past year? Thats 'Efim crazy! Bogo played, and beat, many of the giants of chess. Unfortunately, he is best known for being a "chosen" opponent of Alekhine for two title matches, instead of stronger players like Capablanca. |
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Apr-14-11
 | | talisman: happy birthday efim. |
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Apr-17-11
 | | thegoodanarchist: <SirChrislov: Is it true that Alekine picked Bogo over Capablanca as his challenger because he knew Bogo was weaker?> One theory is that Alekhine wanted to get revenge on Capablanca, who made Alekhine raise $10,000 in gold for the prize fund of their 1927 WC match. So Alekhine demanded the same of Capablanca for the rematch, but after the worldwide depression that started in 1929, it was impossible for Capa to raise the money. Another theory is that Alekhine feared a rematch with Capa because Alekhine knew he would lose. |
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| Apr-18-11 | | BobCrisp: Unfortunately, no source is given but <Soloviov>'s book <Bogoljubow, The Fate of a Chess Player>, relates a Dusseldorf newspaper correspondent's exchange with <Bogo> after the 1929 match. <Are there any dangerous rivals for Alekhine presently?- No! No-one has any chances to win a match against Alekhine now. - What about Nimzowitsch and Capablanca?
- Nimzowitsch has no chances whatsoever; as for Capablanca, I would not advise him to play a revenge match, because his aura will certainly diminish after an eventul new clash... - ...So, you expect Alekhine would lay back and calmly enjoy his supremacy? - Capablanca was doing that. Alekhine will keep on beating everybody that he comes up against...I would enjoy watching his wins in the next four,five years. We will meet again then. I do not intend to surrender after my first loss.> |
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| Apr-23-11 | | BobCrisp: Another poster gave an account of <Bogo>'s explanation for his defection from the Soviets (Efim Bogoljubov), and <Soloviov> gives their response: <The All-Russian Chess Section has stated numerous times in print as well as publicly, its principled attitude towards the participation of its members in international tournaments with the participation of bourgeois masters. The Section has organised an International Tournament in Moscow and it has given numerous permissions for playing in international chess tournaments abroad to Bogoljubow, Rabinovich, Verlinsky...all this is the best possible proof that the Soviet Chess Section is not sharing the narrow-minded opinion that the Russian chess-masters should compete over the board only against representatives of workers' organisations... The Chess Section considered and continues to consider chess as a means of cultural education of the people and has always tried in principle to borrow and make use of all professional achievements of the bourgeois culture, including in the field of chess art. The Chess Section however has never regarded chess only as pure art...and it has required such a principled attitude from all its members...This was the reason that the Chess Section was adamant not to conduct any negotiations with Alekhine about his participation in the International Tournament in Moscow. It considered this master as...an enemy element of Soviet power... Accordingly, the Chess Section does not intend to stand for any of its members committing acts contrary to any of its regulations, or behaving in a manner that implies even a hint of animosity towards the Soviet public, or disloyalty to Soviet power... Unfortunately, the Chess Section finds that recently one of the world's leading chess players, the champion of the USSR - E.D. Bogoljubow commits such acts. He sent a letter to the Chess Section, in which he states that due to purely materialistic reasons...he raises the question of renouncing his Soviet citizenship. In doing so, E.D. Bogoljubow showed that:
1) For the sake of his private financial prosperity,...he places all that above the honour and the right to be a citizen of the first workers' socialist state in the world. 2) His connections with the bourgeois masters...proved to be more essential to him than his allegiance to the working class and the chess organisations of the Soviet Union. 3) Despite his wish to contribute to the prosperity of chess in the USSR, according to his words in his statement, he instead preferred to inflict a powerful political blow to the chess movement... Considering the abovementioned, and accepting that citizen Bogoljubow is following the steps of Alekhine - he is obviously not the first and may not be the last renegade in that field and in doing he places himself outside the chess organisations of the Soviet Union - The chess section issues, therefore, the following decision: 1) To deprive citizen E.D. Bogoljubow of the title chess champion of the USSR. 2) To expel citizen E.D. Bogoljubow from the members of the chess organisations of the USSR. 3) To publish this decision for the widespread attention of the Soviet people.> |
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| Apr-23-11 | | BobCrisp: <The Section has organised an International Tournament in Moscow and it has given numerous permissions for playing in international chess tournaments abroad to Bogoljubow, Rabinovich, Verlinsky...> <Bogolyubov> was allowed to play two events in Germany in 1926, but he was also denied a visa to play in either of the major events, <Semmering> and <Meran>. According to <Skinner & Verhoeven>, in addition to <Bogo>, the Semmering organisers extended an invitation to a young Soviet player of their choosing. The Soviets turned down the invitations, citing <unfortunate diplomatic relations between Austria and the USSR> but also claiming that <Bogolyubov> was busy writing his tournament book on <Moscow 1925>. Although no weatherman, <Bogo> could surely sense which way the wind was blowing. He must have realised that his participation in the mooted New York event in 1927 was unlikely to be granted. <Soloviov> surmises that it may have been <Alekhine>'s presence alone in Semmering that accounted for the Soviet boycott, and it's true that between <Baden-Baden 1925>, which <Alekhine> convincingly won ahead of both <Bogo> and <Ilya Leontievich Rabinovich >, and <Nottingham 1936> where <Botvinnik> took part, <Alekhine> never played an event involving a Soviet citizen. But this seems just one part of a greater <Iron Curtain>. As far as I can tell, no Soviet player was allowed to compete outside the Soviet Union between 1927 and 1934, when <Botvinnik> suddenly appeared at <Hastings 1934-35>, as a prelude to <Moscow 1935> and the Soviets' full-scale re-emergence into international chess. But if anyone can prove differently, I'd be happy to know. Also, were any foreign players allowed to visit/compete within the Soviet Union between 1927 and 1934? |
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