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Mar-02-04
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| Benzol: I remember reading somewhere he was a Doctor of some kind. Whether that was MD or not I don't know. |
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| Mar-02-04 |
| Lawrence: I wonder if Honza can help out. There's a bit of info at Capablanca vs Treybal, 1929 |
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Mar-02-04
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| Honza Cervenka: Karel Treybal (1885-1941) was one of strongest Czech players of his period, although he never was a chess professional. He was a lawyer and worked as a judge of county court in the city of Velvary. Later he became the head of the county court. His brother Frantisek was also an excellent player (see http://www.chessmetrics.com/PL/PL41... ), but Karel was more successful on international level and much more known. In 1941 he was executed by Nazis. |
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Apr-16-04
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| Honza Cervenka: Chessgames.com, I am almost sure that in 1908 Prague international tournament did not play Karel Treybal, but his brother Frantisek. See games Treybal vs Marshall, 1908 , Treybal vs Teichmann, 1908 , Janowski vs Treybal, 1908 and Treybal vs Spielmann, 1908 And there are probably some other Frantisek Treybal's games in this file. |
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Apr-16-04
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| chessgames.com: Honza, thanks for helping us sort this out. It seems that Frantisek's games got merged into Karel's. The page on Frantisek is here: Frantisek Treybal |
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Apr-16-04
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| Gypsy: In Prague 1908, Frantisek Tr. played in the masters section, Karel Tr. in the main section. Karel was first in main, thus gaining the equivalent of today's IM title. The master section was composed of Duras(1-2), Schlechter(1-2), Vidmar(3), Rubinstein(4), Teichmann(5), Maroczy, Leonhardt, Marshall, Salve, Janowski, Duz-Chotimirsky, Alapin, Mieses, Suchting, Spielmann, Prokes, Bardeleben, Kvicala, A. Rabinovich, F. Treybal. (Up to ties, in the order of their finish.) From the main, I found only a coupe of names; they are K. Treybal(1), Taussig(4), Dobias(5), Dyk(7), Rotlewi, Reti (both elliminated in prelim rounds). |
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Apr-16-04
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| Honza Cervenka: Missing games from Prague 1908 as well as some other games of both Treybals I will send soon. |
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May-05-05
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| Gypsy: < ... Karel Treybal was legendary in that he would fight his games like a lion, but as soon as someone asked for a draw, Treybal could find no hart to turn such a player down. Thus he often drew in a very good position and glosators in vain were asking: "Why does Treybal play each game hard for a win when he is also willing to take a draw in practically any position? ... > Jiri Vesely, "Psychological Guide through a Chess Game". |
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| May-05-05 |
| WTHarvey: Here are some diagrams of crucial positions in Karel's games: http://www.wtharvey.com/trey.html |
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May-05-05
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| aragorn69: On Karel Treybal's tragic death, see: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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| May-05-05 |
| northernsoul: chessgames: given the terrible circumstances of his death, don't you think 'passed away' is a bit weak? Executed or murdered would perhpas be nearer the mark. |
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| May-05-05 |
| arielbekarov: <northernsoul>
I couldn't agree more than that it should be clearly stated
that Karel Treybal was murdered by the Nazies, and I ask <chessgames.com> to present him more strongly bouth as a chessplayer and especially for his courage that caused his death. Ask <Honza Cervenka> to write a presentation ! We need these models of acting more than ever ! Persons who courageously stood up for what they believed in even at the cost of their own life. GM stands for Grand Master, but could also be interpreted as Great Mind and Karel Treybal belonged definitely to the latter.
Of course, his death was very tragic, but he was a man of strong ideals and for people like him there was no other way than to face the ultimate consequence if necessary. Karel Treybal couldn't say no, if somebody was asking him for a draw in chess even though he had an already won position. But he couldn't accept
"a draw" with the Nazies regarding his life.
He could most probably have survived by having a low profile during these years, but he refused to defend such a position. Karel Treybal's message is clear and it should be written
in his profile for everybody to read.
Ariel |
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May-08-05
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| chessgames.com: Some will be happy to see that we have updated the biography and the photograph of Karel Treybal. Please note, we (chessgames.com) do not write the biographies, they are submitted by volunteers who are expected to follow specific guidelines. Occasionally, however, we exercise editorial control. |
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| May-08-05 |
| arielbekarov: <chessgames.com> Thank you for making his profile so great with text and photo.
I am sure that not only "some" but everybody will be happy for your being so alert ! I didn't know about Karel Treybal, but after reading the postings here and the given links, I felt a strong wish to know more about him.
I was very touched by his story and now I am studying his games.
Very thoughtful that you have chosen this day !
This day May 8, 1945 the Nazi regime, who caused the death of so many millions including the life of Karel Treybal, collapsed totally.
This is - The Day - to present him !
Once again, thank you all for telling
his story.
Warm regards !
Ariel |
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| May-11-05 |
| northernsoul: <chessgames> thank you for the amendment |
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| Sep-16-05 |
| Runemaster: He looks like James Joyce in this portrait of the judge/chess player as a middle-aged man. |
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| Feb-02-08 |
| BIDMONFA: Karel Treybal TREYBAL, Karel
http://www.bidmonfa.com/treybal_kar...
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Feb-02-08
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| brankat: Happy Birthday to the brave and decent man, a fine chess master, too! |
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Feb-02-08
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| Wild Bill: Dr. Treybal was great man of many talents. We do well to honor him. |
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Feb-02-08
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| brankat: Btw, it is also GM S.Gligoric's birthday today ;-) |
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Feb-02-08
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| Gypsy: Here is a small episode from the end of WW1. The historical context goes as thus: When Germany and Bolshevik's Russia signed their peace treaty, the Eastern front closed and the full brunt of fighting Germany fell upon France. At the same time, stranded deep in Russia were also very combat-worthy Czechoslovak Legions. Over the course of several month, these Legions took control of the Trans-Siberian Magistrale railroad and fought their way all the way east to Vladivostock. The goal was that they could be transported to France and Western Front. The local situation in the Russian Far East was extremely complex with Red and White armies fighting each other, the intervention armies, various local war-lords.... http://web.mac.com/czechlegion/iWeb...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_...
In the Spring of 1918, when Czech Legions temporarily occupied the city of Tomsk, they found many prisoners left behind by the army of general Kolchak. The officer cheking the lists of prisoners saw a familiar name: "Are you the chess-master Dus Chotimirsky?" "Yes," answered the prisoner. "The very same one who so nicely beat Lasker in St. Petersburg?" "Yes," answered the prisoner now quite proudly. "You can go. You are free!" -- The officer was Karel Treybal; he served the Legions as a military judge. Dus Chotimirsky vs Lasker, 1909 |
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Feb-02-08
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| brankat: <Gypsy> Thanks for the link to the story of the Check Legion. Fascinating! |
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| Jan-27-09 |
| Mibelz: Treybal won ahead of Hromadka at Tomsk (Siberia, Russia) 1919.
http://www.geocities.com/al2055km/i... |
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Feb-02-09
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| brankat: R.I.P. master Treybal. |
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| Jul-06-09 |
| visayanbraindoctor: Aside from Hromadka and Treybal, were there other Czech or Slovak chess players that joined the Czechoslovak Legion? |
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