Jun-03-11
 | | alexmagnus: Caught cheating at the recent German championship (to be exactly, replaying his game on the cellphone mid-game). Funnily, after 8 rounds he made an IM norm, the cheating accident was in the 9th round - and his norm was annuled. |
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| Jun-04-11 | | Refused: Detailed report.
Last round game against GM Siebrecht.
Siebrecht had a huge advantage on the clock, and despite that Natsidis continued to pay visits to the restrooms quite regular (even when it was Natsidis turn).
Siebrecht felt there was something fishy about it. Well Natisidis had entered the game on his Smartphone and analyzed it by his engine. Therefore the result was 0-1 in a drawn position. Let's see if the German Schachbund has the balls to suspend him from any tournaments in the foreseeable future. |
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Jun-04-11
| | alexmagnus: Well, as far as I understand they already banned him from future German championships and there will be a "process" regarding the further possible bans. <Refused> Were you present on site or do you know the details from some other sources? |
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| Jun-04-11 | | Refused: on youtube there are interviews with some participants (Hoolt, Gusti, Khenkin, Huschi and Siebrecht) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73U-...
it's in German Siebrecht was also asked about that incident and I more or less summarized what he said. The Siebrecht part starts roughly at 21:45 mins |
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| Jun-04-11 | | Refused: And yes, he was ejected from the tournament, but I really hope for a longer ban for every sigle tournament for that guy. |
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| Jun-04-11 | | savagerules: He's 22 or 23 yrs old, old enough to know better. What a piece of garbage this creep is to try this. I wouldn't be surprised if this is going on during the big swiss tournies in the US. Beaten to a pulp would be an appropriate response to such cheating just like in poker. Anytime someone gets up when it's their turn to move is suspicious. |
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Jun-05-11
 | | wordfunph: details of FM Natsidis cheating..
http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/p... |
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Jun-05-11
 | | Bratek: <Brilliance, drama and scandal at the German Championship> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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| Jun-05-11 | | Swapmeet: Cheating with smartphones is unfortunately becoming easier and this problem will only worsen as the technology continues to improve. This guy should really be made an example of and be permanently banned from all rated events. |
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Jun-05-11
| | alexmagnus: <This guy should really be made an example of and be permanently banned from all rated events.> Well, he admitted cheating immediately, so this is a milding circumstance. |
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| Jun-05-11 | | BobCrisp: I wonder if law students are disproportionately prone to unethical behaviour compared to other academic fields. |
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| Jun-05-11 | | bartonlaos: <Well, he admitted cheating immediately, so this is a milding circumstance.> He didn't admit to cheating immediately. What makes you think that? |
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Jun-05-11
| | alexmagnus: <What makes you think that?> The original German report said that. He was caught with his smartphone and admitted he cheated. |
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| Jun-05-11 | | BobCrisp: <During the fatal game Natsidis kept disappearing from the board, even when it was his move, for up to ten minutes. His opponent Siebrecht complained to the arbiter, and the two followed him to the toilet, where he had locked himself in a stall. Siebrecht, who had a very tricky position, decided to offer Natsidis a draw, which his opponent accepted. After this he was searched by the arbiter, who found a smart phone in his pocket. It had a chess program installed and the program was displaying the position five minutes before the end of the game against Siebrecht.> I'd say he was up to his neck in it already. It's hardly a Damascene conversion. |
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| Jun-05-11 | | bartonlaos: <AM> Looks like the German report may have skimped the details. As <BobCrisp> related, it was only after the arbiter was forced to search him, finding the position on his cell phone, banning him, did he later go to his opponent and admit it. I don't think he'll win any points in the penalty phase for that one. |
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Jun-05-11
 | | waustad: One of the comments I heard is that the cheater is a law student. He really ought to know better. |
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| Jun-05-11 | | Refused: <BobCrisp: I wonder if law students are disproportionately prone to unethical behaviour compared to other academic fields.> No comment, personally I would add economics to that question. :') And no, I don't have a particularly high opinion of (most) economy and (some) law students. |
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| Jun-05-11 | | picard: Maybe he can play a match with Sebastian Feller. They can have their programs play against each other. |
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| Jun-05-11 | | BobCrisp: No, first he should take on Arkadi Naiditsch for the German championship, with the winner facing <Feller> for the European title. |
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| Jun-07-11 | | offramp: I don't understand the mention of Naiditsch; has he ever cheated? As far as I know he has an unimpeachable record. |
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Jun-07-11
 | | crazybird: < offramp: I don't understand the mention of Naiditsch; has he ever cheated? As far as I know he has an unimpeachable record.> Unimpeachable would be a rather strong word.
<Grandmaster Arkadi Naiditsch admitted his cheating in 2004 by using a computer in an Internet tournament, claiming that everyone else was
doing it.>
http://www.chess.com/article/view/c...
& here's GM Nigel Short on Naiditsch
<Naiditsch, who scored a respectable 50% on his home soil, is the same person who was found guilty of having used a computer during a game in a tournament in 2004.> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/200... |
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