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|Feb-19-08|| ||paladin at large: Capablanca had a high opinion of Grau's ability. Grau is one of those strong masters from the early part of the 20th century whose skill is not yet adequately reflected in the games in the database. Hopefully, more of his games will be uploaded.|
|Mar-10-08|| ||Augalv: The Tratado General de Ajedrez or 'Treatise on General Chess' by Roberto Grau are problably the best books(it's a four-book volume) on chess ever written in Argentina. It's what I recommend using to anyone who wants to begin studying chess. It may need some updating though.|
|Mar-18-08|| ||WickedPawn: Grau's 'Tratado General de Ajedrez' was given to me as a gift when I was a kid. This magnificent four volume set is one of the reasons why I became so interested in chess.|
|Mar-18-08|| ||brankat: It is a pity that, apparently, the Treatise has not been translated to English.|
|Mar-18-08|| ||WannaBe: Such young age to pass away, and leave us with half-empty glass...|
I wish to see more of Roberto's game in the database, such that, his record is not so bad.
|Mar-18-08|| ||chessgames.com: <I wish to see more of Roberto's game in the database, such that, his record is not so bad.> Your wish is our command.|
|Mar-18-08|| ||pawnofdoom: Wasn't there some "Grau Variation" of the Queen's Pawn Opening? It was either <1. d4 d5 2. c4 ♗f5> or <1. d4 d5 2. ♗f4> or maybe neither|
|Mar-18-08|| ||Knight to f6: <pawnofdoom: Wasn't there some "Grau Variation" of the Queen's Pawn Opening?>
There certainly is, I believe it was 2. Bf4.
So these years would make Grau the #1 player in Argentina before Najdorf. Wonder if they ever played each other, Najdorf was stranded in Argentina in 1939 with the Polish Olympiad team when WW2 began.
|Mar-18-08|| ||Knight to f6: Grau vs Najdorf--the one and only game:
R Grau vs Najdorf, 1939
|Mar-18-08|| ||Komapsimnita: <Karpova> posted a picture on the 14th of December. You should check it out, I'm 100% sure that whoever took the photo must have shouted CHEESE!|
|Sep-29-08|| ||GrahamClayton: <Pawnofdoom>The Grau Variation is 1. d4 d5 2. c4 ♗f5.|
According to Hooper and Whyld, 1. d4 d5 2.♗f4 is the Mason Variation of the Queen's Pawn Opening.
Source: David Hooper and Kenneth Whyld "Oxford Companion to Chess", OUP, 1992
|May-01-09|| ||Augalv: http://www.ajedrezargentina.org/bio...|
|Oct-18-11|| ||vonKrolock: <Mar del Plata 1928> The so called 'Third South-American Tournament', with players from Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay. 1st Grau 13,5, 2nd Luis Argentino Palau (ARG) 12,5. 3-rd João de Souza Mendes (BRA) 11,5 etc - Complete with crosstable and games in the Brasilbase site http://www.brasilbase.pro.br/sa1928... |
<<!?>: "The game Vianna - Hernandez was played with the black King in 'd8' and the black Queen in 'e8' " > (It seems that they were trying some Chess-Variant back then...)
|Mar-18-12|| ||brankat: Senor Grau certainly did a lot for the advancement of Chess in Argentina, and South America in general.|
|Mar-18-14|| ||Gejewe: "Tratado General de Ajedrez" has been reprinted in Spain, fairly recently. I found the new set in 2001 (the books are also interesting for non Spanish speaking chess players interested in chess treatises..), foreword by Miguel Illescas. Four books as mentioned :|
- I Rudimentos (234 p.)
- II Táctica y estrategia (240 p.)
- III Conformaciones de peones (271 p.)
- IV Estrategia superior (265 p.)
But I was a bit surprised that no one mentions Luis Palau's biography "Partidas magistrales de Roberto Grau"
I have the third edition from 1958, 136 pages, 40 annotated games (1921-1938) and some articles.
From his Tratado, tomo IV, a fun game :
Irume - Grau,R.G. Vélez Sársfield 1923
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.e5 Nfd7 6.Bxe7 Qxe7 7.Nb5 Qd8 8.c3 a6 9.Na3 c5 10.f4 Nc6 11.Nf3 f6 12.Qd2 0-0 13.Be2 cxd4 14.cxd4 fxe5 15.fxe5 Rxf3! 16.gxf3 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Nxd4 18.f4 Nxe2 19.Kxe2 Qg4+ 20.Ke3 Nxe5! 21.fxe5 Qe4+ 22.Kf2 Bd7 23.Rhe1 Qg4! 24.Qe2 Rf8+ 25.Ke3 Qe4+ 26.Kd2 Qd4+ 27.Qd3 Rf2+28.Re2 Rxe2+ 29.Kxe2 Qxb2+ 0-1
(30.Nc2 Bb5 and the "bad bishop" rules)
There is also a game-example where he plays 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Bf5 with the black pieces and after 3.c4 e6 points out 4.Qb3 Nc6 in what he calls the "Balogh variation" himself. I have not yet found an example with 1.d4 d5 2.c4 Bf5 instead of 2.Nf3 Bf5.
|Mar-18-14|| ||paulofx2071: Grau never played 1. d4, d5 2.c4 Bf5. Grau played 1.d4, d5 - 2.Nf3, Bf5 Example versus Petrov|
|Mar-18-14|| ||paulofx2071: In the game Grau Euwe of 1924 magazine scored a wrong move 17) ... bishop by rook, when in fact juice 17) .... rook by rook. This forced to assume that no other moves were played. After all copied the wrong version of the game and the bug. I commented on that game and I warned Chessgames to correct it. But to date not corrected. Source 1) Grau, 1936 Neoplan magazine, 2) "The Maestro Roberto Grau", 2005|
|Mar-18-14|| ||paulofx2071: Grau Euwe 1924 Paris
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.e3 e6 5.Nc3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Bd3 a6 9.0-0 c5 10.Qe2 Bb7 11.b3 Be7 12.Bb2 0-0 13.Rac1 Qa5 14.Bb1 Rfd8 15.dxc5 Nxc5 16.Rfd1 b4 17----Rxd8 Rxd8 18.Nd1 Nce4 19----Bd4 Bd6 20.Bxf6 Nxf6 21.e4 Bf4 22.Rc4 Qh5 23.Bd3 a5 24.Nb2 Ba6 25.Rc2 Bxd3
And now 26.Qxd3! attacking the rook of d8, and if 26..... Rxd3, then 27.Rc8#
Hence 26).....Rf8 and 27).... h6
The game finalized 47.... Kh7 48.Qxg7#
|Mar-18-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Roberto Grau.|
|Mar-18-17|| ||Fusilli: <Augalv: The Tratado General de Ajedrez or 'Treatise on General Chess' by Roberto Grau are problably the best books(it's a four-book volume) on chess ever written in Argentina.>|
They taught me, and generations of Argentines, to play. I wish I still had them.
|Mar-18-17|| ||hemy: <Fusilli> I have many ebooks (PDF format) of Roberto Grau.
You (and others) can upload it from public folder of my Dropbox:
|Mar-21-17|| ||Fusilli: Thanks <hemy>! Very kind of you.|
|Mar-21-17|| ||hemy: <Fusilli> I have more then 1000 pdf chess books in Spanish. If you want I can transfer all of them to you.|
|Mar-21-17|| ||Fusilli: <hemy> Thank you, but I will pass. I don't feel that comfortable reading on the computer. But the main reason is that I never make the time to go over the books I already have!|
|Mar-21-17|| ||Keyser Soze: <hemy: <Fusilli> I have many ebooks (PDF format) of Roberto Grau. You (and others) can upload it from public folder of my Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lp9hypaw...|
Hey, Gracias. Voy ler alguns in my Kindle :p
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