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|Aug-02-13|| ||Benzol: You certainly have to respect the man. His capacity for work in the fields he studied was simply staggering.|
|Aug-02-13|| ||HeMateMe: Probably the only great player to have simultaneously excelled in another, difficult field. After retiring from chess he worked on an early, primitive computer chess program.|
When he analyzed with Reshevsky, I wonder if Sammy enquired about new topics in electrical engineering, and Misha asked Sammy if he had done any interesting tax returns of late? I suppose not...
|Aug-02-13|| ||ughaibu: <Probably the only great player to have simultaneously excelled in another, difficult field.> Rubbish. It is generally acknowledged that Botvinnik made no great contribution to the development of computer chess. On the other hand it is generally acknowledged that Lasker made a significant contribution to maths: http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk...|
|Aug-02-13|| ||DoctorD: What about Euwe? School teacher for many years as well as World Champ, then professor, author of numerous books, and President of FIDE during some heady years.|
|Aug-02-13|| ||hms123: Mark Taimanov|
<However, few players have beaten six world champions (Botvinnik, Vasily Smyslov, Mikhail Tal, Tigran Petrosian, Spassky, and Anatoly Karpov) as Taimanov has.>
<Taimanov was a top concert pianist in the Soviet Union. With his first wife, Lyubov Bruk, he formed a piano duo, some of whose recordings were included in the Philips and Steinway series Great Pianists of the 20th Century.>
|Aug-02-13|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: @<hms123>
There is a lovely story about how Smyslov and Taimanov entertained fellow players at the Venice 1950 tourney. Mark tinkled the Ivory whilst Vassily sang.
|Aug-02-13|| ||HeMateMe: <ughaibu: > I didn't claim he "made a great contribution to computer chess", you nitwit. He WAS an electrical engineer. I think that requires the normal undergraduate degree and probably a masters in something. I think you excel in math if you have an electrical engineering degree.|
He did some work on a crude computer chess program, but I doubt it was as advanced as say, the MIT Greenblatt program, that appeared in the late 70s.
|Aug-05-13|| ||Expendable Asset: Name-calling: A quick, clean, and precise way to "win" an argument., or to simply get your point across.|
|Aug-05-13|| ||keypusher: <expendable asset> |
Off topic: what do you mean by an "effective" actor? You can answer in my forum if you like.
|Aug-05-13|| ||Tomlinsky: Despite his greatness as a player, Botvinnik's 'Computers, Chess and Long-Range Planning' was a booklet of completely unimplementable tosh.|
|Aug-05-13|| ||Estoc: <HeHateMe> Milan Vidmar excelled in electrical engineering.|
|Aug-17-13|| ||brankat: R.I.P. Mikhail Botvinnik.|
|Aug-17-13|| ||parisattack: Yes, R.I.P Mikhail Moisevich.
His games and annotations make excellent study; perhaps the best for the club player.
|Sep-29-13|| ||offramp: Incredible Botvinnik lookalike:
Actor James Woods:
|Oct-14-13|| ||visayanbraindoctor: Game Collection: Botvinnik vs the World Champions Decisive Games|
|Oct-16-13|| ||Penguincw: Quote of the Day
< "Chess is the art of analysis." >
Nowadays, computers have also been "artistic".
|Oct-16-13|| ||parisattack: Botvinnik was not a chess genius - like Morphy, Capablanca, Fischer or Kasparov.|
He was talented, but more he was incredibly focused - which shows in his style of play (Identify a strategic target early in the game and drill) - and perhaps the hardest working, most serious 'student' the game has seen.
We cannot all be GMs, but I think the Botvinnik Model is one every player may use to improve.
|Oct-17-13|| ||Penguincw: Quote of the Day
< "Chess is the art which expresses the science of logic." >
He's been mentioning "chess is the art..." a lot now.
|Dec-30-13|| ||Penguincw: Quote of the Day
< "Everything is in a state of flux, and this includes the world of chess." >
|Feb-03-14|| ||perfidious: More genius-level insight from a foremost exponent of Botvinnik bashing:|
<ughaibu....I have been a player who was described as good yet after first playing through a Botvinnik "masterpiece" I applied for a national health grant in order to have the incipient memories excised. Botvinnik has well and away the ugliest style of any world champion, even Steinitz has a pipe-and-slippers charm by comparison. If one need suffer the agonies of dredging through his turgid practicality in search of chess strength I suggest any alternative ambition would be preferable.>
Maybe the dear boy should break out his pipe and slippers whilst travelling in time to the 1850s, when real men played King's Gambits instead of stodgy openings such as the French and Sicilian, which were less highly regarded then.
|Feb-03-14|| ||Travis Bickle: <perfidious> Dumbass.|
|Feb-03-14|| ||perfidious: <Trav-baby> Y'all talkin' 'bout your boy <ugh-haibu>?|
|Feb-21-14|| ||paavoh: @parisattack: <It is also the reason I think Botvinnik is one of the best players to learn from since most of us here down in the chessic trenches are neither brilliant nor fantastic by nature.|
Botvinnik picked his targets and plan very early in the game and just stuck it out to the end.>
+1. A very good advice IMO.
|Feb-27-14|| ||Karpova: Mikhail Botvinnik: <Thus we see that there are two factors hindering a championship match between the holder of the title and his strongest rival: 1. the rival cannot always obtain the funds for such a match, and 2. the champion as a rule is not interested in playing a match with his strongest opponent.>|
Source: 'CHESS', March 1947, pages 168-169
Retrieved from Edward Winter's <Interregnum>, 2003-2004, http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...
|Apr-10-14|| ||zanzibar: Polugaevsky's book "Grandmaster Preparation"
has a short introduction "On How This Book Found its Author" in which I learned two facts I didn't know:
1) Geller was a former basketball player.
2) Botvinnik apparently felt that all GM's had a duty to write a book on chess.
<... even so Botvinnik's retort quite overwhelmed me [Polugaevsky]:
"Why don't you admit it -- you're a lazy bones! You should be ashamed of yourself! It's the duty of every grandmaster to write books," declared Mikhail Moiseevich, very severely bringing the conversation to a close."
I wonder, given the number of GM's out there today, if Mikhail Moiseevich would still feel the same way?
Also, note the use of Botvinnik's father's name, Moise (Moses). Handy to know if one ever needed to telephone him in Moscow:
http://en.chessbase.com/post/hou-yi... (What's in a name?)
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