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Aug-17-21
 | | offramp: <MissScarlett: Didn't he work for years on a chess computer that was a complete failure?> LOL. When Stalin had a look at the result, the blood must have drained from his Georgian face. When Stalin thought of playing this new computer gave Botvinnik only one resource: He would hide a small competent chess player inside a wooden cabinet. Botvinnik selected the young Tal.
Great player BTW. |
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Aug-17-21
 | | 0ZeR0: Happy birthday Mikhail Moiseyevich Botvinnik. Though you did not teach me personally, I have learned much from your games and writings over the years. A better teacher could not exist. |
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Aug-17-21
 | | keypusher: Happy birthday to my favorite commie bastard! |
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Oct-20-21 | | Caissanist: Nothing much ever came of Botvinnik's computer chess projects, but I doubt that had anything to do with the quality of hs work. He would not have had decent machines to run on, thanks to the failure of the Soviet computer hardware industry after 1968 and Cold War restrictions that prevented them from importing modern machines from the West. |
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Jan-04-22 | | NatashaFatale: <keypusher> Sorry for the late response. The House of Government is purely wonderful. |
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Jan-05-22
 | | keypusher: < PAGE 65 OF 65 · Later>
Premium Chessgames MemberJan-04-22 NatashaFatale: <keypusher> Sorry for the late response. The House of Government is purely wonderful> Yes, I read it. It’s amazing! |
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Feb-02-22
 | | Dionysius1: "Botvinnik once wrote 'Chess is the art which expresses the science of logic as music is the art which expresses the science of acoustics' " (Becoming a Grandmaster, by Raymond Keene. Batsford, 1977. p 35) Bravo! |
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Dec-27-22
 | | HeMateMe: Read <The Russians> by Hedrick Smith, a New York Times correspondent. Still relevant in understanding the Russian psyche, 40 years later. <https://www.bing.com/images/search?...> |
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May-29-23 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: I would like to say a word about many critics to the big Botvinnik (about his defeat against Kotov, gid=1032133). Fistly, Smyslov placed in his best-games book, two of his victories against KOTOV who seemed to be an attack genius, like others: Ragozin, Keres and Geller. But, none of them succeeded to have a world crown. Moreover, in this theater from 70 over, several times you will see bad results from the people we repute as "best players". Smyslov was 15-16th in the 73 and 13-15th in 77 USSR also . In the Lvov Zonal of 78, Geller was the 15th (last one) and Smyslov only 7-9th. In the last, the leaders were Balashov, Vaganian and Kusmim. My point is that: aged happens to everyone, so you are not the same as you were at 40ties. Even so, Bovinnik resistered as few, his score is: Bronstein (8+ 6- 19=), Geller (1+ 4- 7=, his worst), Keres (8+ 3- 9=), Kotov (4+ 1- 4=), Korchnoi and Stein (1+ 1- 2=), Petrosian (4+ 7- 20=, similar to Geller), Polugaevsky (1+ 0- 1=), Smyslov (29+ 24- 52=), Spassky (1+ 0- 7=), Tal (12+ 12- 20=) and tied with Fischer 1 game. Man, he did great! Just to compare, Smyslov has the following score: Bronstein (7+ 6- 25=), Geller (8+ 11- 37=, his worst too), Keres (9+ 9- 22=), Kotov (6+ 3- 10=), Korchnoi (5+ 3- 14=), Petrosian (6+ 3- 27=), Polugaevsky (4+ 3- 19=), Spassky (3+ 5- 21=, bad too), Stein (1+ 1- 8=),Tal (4+ 3- 21=). But Smyslov were 10y newer than Botvinnik. |
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Nov-25-23
 | | Fusilli: And in the Useless Facts Department, Botvinnik and Juan Manuel Fangio share the same years of birth and death, 1911-1995. Two world champions with the same life bracket. I wonder if that's the only case of such a thing. The answer to that question would also belong in the Useless Facts Department, but I know you won't resist the temptation to look for it! |
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Nov-25-23
 | | perfidious: As Botvinnik was the greatest chess player of the 1940s, Fangio dominated the 1950s in his discipline. Guess Fangio made the right choice when he opted for F1 over football! |
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Nov-26-23
 | | Fusilli: <perf> Yup, and Argentina was not much of a football power back then. Didn't play in the 1950 and 1954 world cups, and it was sent home with a humiliating 1-6 defeat to Czechoslovakia in 1958. I started a documentary on Fangio the other day, on Netflix. Pretty interesting. Fangio was revered by my parents' generation, but my generation only knew the old man who looked like a kind grandpa rather than a fierce sportsman. Turns out back then race drivers needed to know a lot about mechanics, while comfort in the car (and maybe safety) was quite secondary. |
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Nov-27-23
 | | offramp: I garbled the link to that incredible lookalike. Here's another try. https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/... |
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Feb-16-24
 | | keypusher: Any Russian speaker want to translate what Botvinnik is saying about his late wife here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrA... |
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Feb-16-24
 | | beatgiant: <keypusher> Rough translation: "She was a performer in the Leningrad Ballet, completed choreography training, and studied under Agri Vaganova. She made a big impression on me, as she did on everyone. She had her own kind of beauty. Then we got to know each other more closely. She was an unusual person. We got married in a year. We had our joys and sorrows, but were together for over half a century." Before the interview, the narrator says she was in the Kirov Theatre (now back to the pre-revolutionary name of Mariinsky Theater). |
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Feb-16-24
 | | beatgiant: The narrator also reveals that Botvinnik knew then-current dance steps (foxtrot and charleston) and his wife's name was Gaiana Ananova. |
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Feb-16-24 | | stone free or die: You mean <faxtt> don't you <beat>? Ha. It's far from perfect, but one can turn on closed captions with the <CC> button on youtube, and then use the <Settings> button to select the <CC subtitles> to turn on the <auto-translate>. You can then select <English> (or whatever) from the drop-down list. <beat> translates it far better, but you can try the above option if he isn't available (note however that the subtitle trick it isn't always available either). |
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Feb-16-24
 | | beatgiant: Her teacher Agri Vaganova was a famous ballet pedagogue in St. Petersburg/Leningrad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrip... |
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Feb-16-24
 | | beatgiant: <stone free or die> I just tried your subtitle/auto-translate method. Overall I think the result is a bit more detailed than my translation, but the biggest difference is the auto-translate said they got married within an hour of meeting! Botvinnik very clearly said "year," so it's nice to know humans can still outdo computers once in a while. (laughs) |
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Feb-16-24
 | | keypusher: <beatgiant> <SFOD> Thank you both (especially you, beatgiant)! I thought I could retune the subtitles, but I didn't figure out how. I read somewhere that late in her life he had to reinforce the windows in their apartment so that she wouldn't jump out. |
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Feb-16-24
 | | beatgiant: On reviewing the subtitles, I see the most important detail I missed is, it was in the final year of her studies that she learned under Vaganova. |
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Feb-16-24 | | stone free or die: <beat> I caught that bit about marrying her an hour later - talk about love at first sight! I'm amazed that google translate can do as good a job as it does - but a good translation is a work of art. (My favorite example is the modern translation of <The Little Prince> vs. Katherine Woods' classic version) |
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Oct-25-24 | | stone free or die: I'm been searching Youtube for examples of Botvinnik speaking. So far I only have this humble example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wz... (talking about "Match of the Century" - 1972) Can someone point me to a better example?
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Nov-09-24
 | | mifralu: <Botvinnik interview:
"Information Bulletin, Embassy of USSR, 14 August 1943, p. 11">https://books.google.de/books?id=Nj... |
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Nov-28-24 | | James Keziah Delaney: Premium Chessgames MemberNov-26-23 Fusilli: <perf> Yup, and Argentina was not much of a football power back then. Didn't play in the 1950 and 1954 world cups, and it was sent home with a humiliating 1-6 defeat to Czechoslovakia in 1958 They were very powerful back then, they didn't play World cups because of politics, they had Di Stefano, Sivori, Moreno, Padernera, Angelillo back then... |
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