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|May-26-15|| ||TheFocus: <I refused to believe that Black was lost. Looking at the position, I felt there must be a defense, and looking at the previous play, I liked all of Black’s moves! Not trying to find a defense for Black would have meant admitting that something was wrong with my concept of chess strategy> - Bent Larsen.|
|Aug-12-15|| ||offramp: Another incredible chess lookalike!
This is English actor John McCallum: http://waytofamous.com/images/john-..., I think he looks a lot like Best Larsen. I'm watching his 1956 film Port of Escape (with the great Bill Kerr) at the moment. During that film he really does look like Larsen.
|Aug-12-15|| ||offramp: Larsen has a whopping 1,100 wins in the database. Kortschnoi has 1,700. But Karpov has only 969. Kasparov is way down the list. Does any other player have more than 1000 wins?|
|Aug-12-15|| ||WannaBe: <offramp> Counting everything? Mikhail Tal|
|Aug-12-15|| ||Retireborn: <offramp> Tal, also Alekhine, Timman, and Miles.|
|Aug-12-15|| ||tamar: Keres over 1000 too.|
|Aug-12-15|| ||Retireborn: <tamar> Knew I'd forgotten someone! The popular, fighting players, there.|
|Aug-12-15|| ||tamar: Popular,fighting, and exhausted players. A little sad Miles is on the list.|
|Aug-13-15|| ||offramp: <WannaBe, Retireborn & tamar>, thanks for those! I really should have guessed Alekhine. Tal is not a surprise. But I would never have guessed Keres, Miles and Timman.|
Not in this, cg.com, database, but another active and win-a-lot player is Ivan Farago.
|Aug-18-15|| ||wrap99: I saw Larsen speaking to Ludek Pachman at Lone Pine in 1978 (or 1979). I remember the very physically impressive-looking Larsen (very tall and broad) saying in German, "Vor oder nach?" (I think that is what he said.)|
I would recommend to any chess fan visiting Lone Pine. Too bad it has been over for decades. I shook hands with Petrosian there also. I saw Reshevsky.
|Aug-18-15|| ||waustad: <offramp> I suspect there are quite a few players with more, but many are not in this or any other online database. Think about players like Pia Cramling who has been very active for many years, but who has many fewer games here than Carlsen. Many of her games are not online anywhere. A player like Georg Danner is still very active in Austria at 68 but there is near a decade missing from his career in the larger database, chess365. Most of the public games by Korchnoi or Larsen have been preserved.|
|Aug-18-15|| ||offramp: <wrap99> that's really good! I think Larsen was saying "For or against?" (Fro oder nicht?")|
Being a Dane I think German would have been easy for him. And the lingua franca of central Europe (Pachman was a Czech) is and always has been German.
I dunno about chess fans visiting Lone Pine NOW. What is there for chess players?
Have you seen what Linares is like now? The Hotel Hannibal is downtrodden; just a few pictures of chess players on the walls. The staff don't know who the pictures are of... The locals can't remember the tournaments...
|Aug-18-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: <offramp: ...
Have you seen what Linares is like now? The Hotel Hannibal is downtrodden; just a few pictures of chess players on the walls. The staff don't know who the pictures are of...>
That is because in 2012 Sacha Baron Cohen replaced the portraits of chess players with portraits of Moe, Larry and Curly Howard.
|Aug-18-15|| ||Gypsy: <... Keres over 1000 too.>|
|Aug-18-15|| ||zoren: <offramp>
That's kind of depressing to hear about Linares.
|Aug-18-15|| ||Jim Bartle: <I dunno about chess fans visiting Lone Pine NOW. What is there for chess players?>|
It's kinda scenic...
|Aug-18-15|| ||waustad: When I visited Denmark in the 70s repeatedly I found English worked well, along with my pitiful Swedish and my better German.|
|Aug-18-15|| ||wrap99: <offramp> I imagine with Statham's passing, chess is largely forgotten. I interacted with locals there -- I remember vaguely some sort of hostility towards the players (very low level but certainly the ones I met were not in awe of the fact that more than one world champ was there (I think; maybe only one at a time). |
I was just a spectator but the locals did not know this -- they reminded me of locals in any of the small CA towns I have visited. Not all of CA is SF or Beverly Hills or La Jolla.
I have never been to Linares.
Doesn't "vor oder nach" mean before or after?
|Aug-19-15|| ||Poulsen: <wrap99> Yes, it does - what Larsen meant with that remark or question to Pachman we will properly never now. It is out of its context.|
<waustad> in general english will work much better in Denmark than german. For many years english has been taught in at folkeskole ('elementary school') level much more intensively than german and other languages. Some has argued, that children should learn english at the moment they enter the school system in Denmark.
That said many danes has some knowledge of german - and even a few other languages such spanish, italian or french.
Larsen was more or less fluent in several languages - he was a very impressive and intelligent personality - and seemed to have an almost photografic memory.
I once witnessed him commenting a game analysis under way involving two other GM's - and me as spectator. They were discussing, what should be the plan for black in a certain (Pirc- or King Indian like) position, and Larsen passed the table and with a swift glance at the position he said: "Here black should play (this and this) - this has been known since a game between (xx and Matulovic??) in 1957!". And even though the two GM's smiled at Larsens blunt remark, his suggestion was soon investigated at the board.
The game might be Ivkov vs Matulovic, 1957, but I am not certain.
|Aug-19-15|| ||wrap99: <Poulsen> If not for the prevalence of amazing abilities outside of chess present among GMs, the game would be of far less interest to me. I have no doubt that Larsen would have had an extraordinary memory - Pachman was supposed to have indeed a photographic one. I think chess should be used more to identify people who might contribute to society rather than an end in itself as it seems to be in many cases.|
|Nov-04-15|| ||pazzed paun: It seems Larsen's heartburn around Bobby Fischer is that Fischer never took seriously the idea of Larsen as a possible world champion|
|Dec-18-15|| ||RookFile: Must be tough to be so close, yet so far.|
|Dec-18-15|| ||HeMateMe: <I dunno about chess fans visiting Lone Pine NOW. What is there for chess players?>|
the movie "The Chessplayers", about one of the lone Pine tournaments is around. You might be able to rent it, or it is already posted for free on the internet.
|Dec-18-15|| ||Granny O Doul: I remember reading a Chess Life account of a Lone Pine tourney during which some local at the town bar asks John Fedorowicz why he doesn't go out and earn a living instead of pushing little pieces around a board. "John wisely laughed it off", the report said.|
|Dec-18-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: <offramp: Another incredible chess lookalike!|
This is English actor John McCallum: http://waytofamous.com/images/john-..., I think he looks a lot like Best Larsen. I'm watching his 1956 film Port of Escape (with the great Bill Kerr) at the moment. >
I think it's nice that you and Bill Kerr watch movies together.
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