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Viswanathan Anand
Number of games in database: 2,674
Years covered: 1984 to 2013
Last FIDE rating: 2783
Highest rating achieved in database: 2817
Overall record: +609 -195 =920 (62.0%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      950 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (456) 
    B90 B33 B30 B32 B42
 Ruy Lopez (299) 
    C78 C67 C89 C88 C92
 Ruy Lopez, Closed (150) 
    C89 C88 C92 C84 C95
 French Defense (118) 
    C11 C10 C18 C19 C12
 Sicilian Najdorf (116) 
    B90 B92 B93 B96 B97
 Caro-Kann (84) 
    B17 B12 B14 B19 B18
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (249) 
    B90 B92 B48 B84 B65
 Ruy Lopez (125) 
    C78 C80 C88 C67 C65
 Queen's Indian (115) 
    E15 E12 E17 E19 E14
 Semi-Slav (96) 
    D45 D47 D43 D44 D46
 Sicilian Najdorf (80) 
    B90 B92 B97 B96 B91
 Caro-Kann (71) 
    B12 B18 B17 B19 B13
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Karjakin vs Anand, 2006 0-1
   Anand vs Lautier, 1997 1-0
   Anand vs Topalov, 2005 1/2-1/2
   Radjabov vs Anand, 2002 0-1
   Kramnik vs Anand, 2008 0-1
   Anand vs Kasparov, 1995 1-0
   Anand vs Bologan, 2003 1-0
   Aronian vs Anand, 2013 0-1
   Anand vs Karpov, 1996 1-0
   Kramnik vs Anand, 2008 0-1

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   Kasparov-Anand World Championship Match (1995)
   Karpov-Anand World Championship Match (1998)
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2000)
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2001)
   FIDE World Championship Tournament (2005)
   FIDE World Championship Tournament (2007)
   Anand-Kramnik World Championship Match (2008)
   Anand-Topalov World Chess Championship (2010)
   Anand-Gelfand World Chess Championship (2012)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Wijk aan Zee Hoogovens (1996)
   Wijk aan Zee Hoogovens (1998)
   SIS-MH Masters (2003)
   7th Corsica Open (2003)
   Dortmund Sparkassen (2004)
   Corsica Masters (2004)
   36th Olympiad (2004)
   Wijk an Zee Corus Chess (2004)
   Corsica Masters (2006)
   Corus Wijk aan Zee (2006)
   Villa de Canada de Calatrava (2007)
   Corsica Masters Knockout (2011)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Match Anand! by amadeus
   Admirable Anand! by chocobonbon
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 1990-1999 (Part 1) by Anatoly21
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 2000-2010 (Part 1) by Anatoly21
   anand's ruylopez as white by senankit
   Anand's immortal by senankit
   admirable anand by senankit
   anand's ruylopez with black by senankit
   anand ruylopez as white by senankit
   Exchange sacs - 2 by obrit
   anand at his best by senankit
   end games by senankit
   Anand vs World Champs decisive games+Torre games by visayanbraindoctor
   Anand at his best by you vs yourself

GAMES ANNOTATED BY ANAND: [what is this?]
   Nijboer vs Anand, 1998

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VISWANATHAN ANAND
(born Dec-11-1969) India

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Vishwanathan Anand ("Vishy" to his fans) has been the World Champion since 2007, and was FIDE World Champion from 2000-2002. He was born in 1969 in Mayiladuthurai, a small town in southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, but grew up in Chennai. His mother taught him to play chess at age 6. As an Indian and as an Asian chess player he blazed a trail with a number of firsts, including in 1984 becoming the youngest Indian to earn the title of IM (aged fifteen), becoming the youngest ever Indian Champion at 16, becoming in 1987 the first Indian to win the World Junior Championship and India’s first grandmaster, and becoming India’s (and Asia’s) first World Champion. He is also the first World Champion since Robert James Fischer and the second since Max Euwe who did not originate from one of the countries of what was the Soviet bloc. Moreover, he is the first and only player to have won the putative world championship via knockout tournament, round robin tournament and traditional match play.

Championships

<Age>: Anand’s first serious impact in Indian chess was as a 14 year old, winning the 1983-84 National Sub-Junior Championship with a perfect score of 9/9 points. From 1983 until 1986, he was the National Junior (under 19) Champion and in 1984 and again in 1985 he won Lloyd’s Bank Junior championship. Also in 1984 and again in 1985, Anand won the Asian Junior (under 19) Championships, the youngest to achieve this distinction. Anand capped his junior career by winning the 1987 World Junior Chess Championship.

<National>: He won the Indian National Championships in 1986, 1987 and 1988.

<Continental>: In 1986, he won the Arab-Asian International Chess Championship. In 1989, he won the 2nd Asian Active Chess Championship held in Hong Kong. In 1990 he won the Asian Open Chess Championship in Manila.

<World>: Anand’s first tilt at the World Championship cycle occurred during the last of the traditional FIDE cycles that had been established after World War II, albeit a cycle cut short at the final by Kasparov’s split from FIDE in 1993. Anand kicked off his world championship campaign when he won the gold medal at the 1990 Asian Zonal Championship, qualifying for the Manila Interzonal later that year. He came 3rd at that Interzonal, half a point behind co-leaders Vassily Ivanchuk and Boris Gelfand, thereby qualifying for the Candidates Matches. In 1991, he defeated Alexey Dreev in Chennai in the first round of Candidates matches, but lost to Anatoly Karpov in Brussels in the quarter finals.

In 1993, he came =1st with Michael Adams at the PCA Interzonal tournament in Groningen, the strongest Swiss tournament played until that time. Also in 1993, he contested the 1993 Biel FIDE Interzonal Tournament, coming 10th in a tightly fought contest, but nevertheless qualifying for the FIDE Candidates cycle. In the PCA Candidates, he defeated Oleg Romanishin 5-2 in a best of 8 match held in New York in 1994, then followed up shortly afterwards with a 5.5-1.5 demolition of Adams at Linares in the Candidates semi-final. In Las Palmas in 1995, he met and defeated Gata Kamsky in the final for the right to meet Garry Kasparov. In 1995, he met Kasparov at the World Trade Center in New York to play the match. After an opening run of eight draws, Anand won game nine but then lost four of the next five to concede the match 10½–7½. Conversely, in the concurrent FIDE cycle, Anand lost his quarter-final match to Kamsky, who went on to lose the 1996 FIDE championship match against Karpov. In 1997, Anand won the knock-out matches at Groningen for an opportunity to challenge FIDE World Champion Karpov, defeating Predrag Nikolic 2-0, Alexander Khalifman 3.5-2.5 (in the rapid and blitz tiebreak), Zoltan Almasi 2-0, Alexey Shirov 1.5-0.5, Boris Gelfand 1.5-0.5, and Adams 5-4 in a hard fought sudden death tiebreaker. In the 1998 FIDE cycle, FIDE controversially seeded the reigning champion Karpov directly into the final against the winner of the seven-round single elimination Candidates tournament. Despite coming through an extremely arduous campaign of 31 games in 30 days, Anand was able to draw the regular match 3-3, forcing a rapid playoff. However, the rapid playoff was won 2-0 by Karpov, allowing him to defend his FIDE championship.

In 2000, he beat Alexey Shirov 3½–½ in the final match held at Tehran to become the FIDE World Chess Champion, after defeating Viktor Bologan, Smbat Gariginovich Lputian, Bartlomiej Macieja, Khalifman, and Adams in the preliminary rounds. He failed to defend the title in 2002, losing in the semifinals to Ivanchuk after defeating Olivier Touzane, Peter Heine Nielsen, Vladislav Tkachiev, Dreev, and Shirov in the earlier rounds. Anand did not compete in the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004), but tied for second with Peter Svidler in the FIDE World Championship Tournament (2005) at San Luis in Mexico with 8½ points out of 14 games, 1½ points behind the winner, Veselin Topalov. On the basis of his results at San Luis, Anand was seeded directly into the double round-robin FIDE World Championship Tournament (2007) in Mexico City, which he won with a score of 9/14 points, a full point ahead of joint second place finishers, Vladimir Kramnik and Boris Gelfand, thereby succeeding Kramnik as the title holder of the unified World Championship. In Bonn in October 2008, he successfully retained his crown when he won the twelve-game Anand-Kramnik World Championship Match (2008) by 6.5-4.5 (+3 -1 =7). The following year, he successfully defended his title in the Anand-Topalov World Chess Championship (2010) by 6.5-5.5 after winning the 12th and final classical game scheduled for the match. In May 2012, he faced the winner of the World Championship Candidates (2011), Boris Gelfand, to again successfully defend his title, winning the Anand-Gelfand World Chess Championship (2012) 2.5-1.5 (+1 =3) in the rapid game tiebreaker after drawing the classical games 6-6 (+1 -1 =10).

Tournaments

Anand is the only player to have won the super tournament at Wijk aan Zee (Corus from 1989-2010) five times. He is the first player to have achieved victories in each of the three big chess supertournaments: Corus/Wijk aan Zee (1989, 1998, 2003, 2004, 2006), Linares (1998, 2007, 2008), Dortmund (1996, 2000, 2004).

One of Anand’s earliest serious successes in international tournaments that brought him to international attention include his tie for first place in the Sakthi Finance International Grandmasters Chess Tournament in 1987, enabling him to win his third GM norm, and thereby becoming the youngest Grandmaster in the world at that time. In 1989, he competed in the 4th International Games Festival in France, placing 2nd overall in the Veterans vs. Youth Tournament, although he was 1st in the Youth category. During that event he beat former World Champions, Mikhail Tal and Boris Spassky in their individual encounters. In 1990, he won the 1990 Manchester Chess Festival and was =1st in the 1990 Triveni Super Grandmasters Tournament in Delhi. In 1992, Anand took out 1st in the category 18 Reggio Emilia Chess Tournament ahead of Kasparov and Karpov in the strongest tournament ever held until this time. Also in he won the 1992 Goodrich Open International Tournament in Kolkata and won the category 18 Alekhine Memorial tournament in Moscow ahead of Karpov. This raised his rating to 2700, and was only the 8th person to reach that mark at that time. In 1994, he won the PCA Grand Prix in Moscow ahead of Kasparov

Major successes followed rapidly in 1996, when he finished 2nd at the Las Palmas super tournament and at the Magistral Tournament in Leon. There followed, in 1997, wins in the category 19 tournament in Dos Hermanes, the Invesbanka Chess tournament in Belgrade, the Credit Suisse Classic Tournament in Biel, and 2nd place in Dortmund. In 1998 he won the category 21 (average 2752) Linares tournament, as well as at Madrid and at the Fontys-Tilburg International Chess Tournament. In 1999, he won again at Wijk aan Zee. In 2000, he was runner up at Linares, won at Leon (beating Shirov 1½:½) and at Dortmund and also at the 2000 FIDE World Cup in Shenyeng, defeating Evgeny Bareev 1.5 - 0.5 in the final to win. He successfully defended his World Cup title in 2002 in Hyderabad. In 2001, Anand finished 1st in the 2nd Torneo Magistral Tournament in Mexico City, a clear point ahead Nigel Short, Khalifman and Hernandez. In 2002, he won the Eurotel World Chess Trophy in Prague, defeating Jan Timman (2-0), Khalifman (2-0), Sokolov (1.5-0.5), Ivanchuk (2.5-1.5) and Karpov (1.5-0.5) in the final. He won Corus in 2003 and 2004, and took out Dortmund in 2004. In spring of 2006, following a record-extending fifth victory at Corus Wijk aan Zee (2006), Anand became only the fourth player ever to crack the 2800-Elo mark in FIDE ratings, following Kasparov, Vladimir Kramnik, and Veselin Topalov. A few months after he won the World Championship in 2007, he won the (category 21) Morelia-Linares (2008) outright with 8.5 points, winning at Linares for the third time in his career. Following mediocre (for Anand) results in 2012 which saw him slip out of the top 5 for the first time in nearly 20 years, Anand scored 8/13 to place =3rd behind Carlsen and Aronian at the category 20 Tata Steel (2013) event, and defeated Aronian in round 4 in a game that is becoming known as Anand's Immortal.*

2013 saw Anand breaking his tournament drought by winning outright at the category 19 GRENKE Chess Classic (2013) with 6.5/10, winning in the last round to head off Fabiano Caruana by half a point at the pass. This was his first tournament win since Linares in 2008. A few weeks later he placed 2nd behind Caruana at the Category 21 Zurich Chess Challenge (2013) with 3/6 (+1 -1 =4), losing one game to Caruana and defeating Kramnik in his sole win. In April-May 2013, Anand placed outright 3rd at the category 20 Alekhine Memorial (2013), a half point behind Levon Aronian and Gelfand, with 5/9 (+2 -1 =6), a par for rating performance.

Olympiads

Anand played board 4 for India in 1984, and top board in 1986, 1988, 1990, 1992, 2004 and 2006, winning a silver medal on top board in 2004.

Matches

In 1992, Anand defeated the then number 3 Vassily Ivanchuk by 5:3 in a match held in Linares. In 1997, he played an exhibition simul against 6 computers at the Aegon Man Vs Computers chess event, winning 4-2. In 1998 at the Siemens Nixdorf Duell (Rapid) event in Frankfurt, he beat the then world open category computer chess champion Fritz 5 (1.5-0.5). In 1999 at the Torneo Magistral de Ajedrez in Leon, he beat Karpov 5:1. He won the 2001 "Duel of the Champions", defeating Kramnik in a rapid game match 6.5-5.5 and in 2009, he defeated Leko 5-3 in the Leko-Anand Rapid Match (2009). In June 2011, he won the rapid XXIV Magistral de Ajedrez Ciudad de Leon (2011) 4.5-1.5 (+3 -0 =3).

Teams

In 1986, he won a silver medal as a board prize in the Asian Team Championship. He scored 7/7 in the 1989 Asian Team Chess Championship thereby winning the top board prize as well as the individual best performance of the tournament. He has played in the Bundesliga, the French and Hungarian Team Championships and the European Club Cup. In 2009, he lead the Rest of the World from board 1 to a decisive 21.5-10.5 victory in the Azerbaijan vs the World (2009) event.

Rapids

Anand has always been renowned for the speed of his calculation and moves. His early classical games were often played at close to blitz speed and this prowess has stood him in good stead to enable him to become perhaps the greatest blitz and rapid player of all time. His prowess at quick-play chess has earned him the nickname "The Lightning Kid."

The Chess Classic at Mainz, essentially the annual open world rapid championship, that had commenced in 1994 and finished up in 2010 had become Anand’s personal property as he won it 11 times out of the 17 times it had been staged, including nine consecutive wins from 2000 through to 2008. In addition, he has won the annual overall Amber Blindfold and Rapid Chess Championships in 1994, 1997, 2003, 2005 and 2006, the Amber Rapid 7 times, and he was the only player to win the blind and rapid sections of the Amber tournament in the same year (twice: in 1997 and 2005). Other significant sequences were the six consecutive wins at Corsica from 1999 through 2005, and seven wins at Leon in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, Ciudad de Leon XVIII (2005), XIX Ciudad de Leon (2006), and 2007. Other victories include 1st place at the 1996 Credit Swiss Rapid Chess Grand Prix, in Geneva, where he beat Garry Kasparov in the final, 1st in Wydra in Haifa in 1999 and 2000, 1st in the 2000 Plus GSM World Blitz Chess Cup in Warsaw where he won outright with 17.5 Points in 22 Games, defeating Karpov, Gelfand and Svidler, 1st in the 2000 Fujitsu Siemens Giants Chess (Rapid) in Frankfurt, winning the 2006 Mikhail Tal Memorial Blitz Tournament in Moscow with 23/34, which involved winning 11 out of 17 mini-matches to claim the strongest Blitz tournament in the history of the game, beating his eventual successor to the rapid crown, Aronian, by a 2 point margin. He is also the 2003 FIDE World Rapid Chess Champion by virtue of winning the Cap D'Agde FRA (2003). On 27 March 2011 in Tashkent in Uzbekistan, Anand defeated Rustam Kasimdzhanov in a rapid play match by 3.5-0.5 and in September 2011, he won the Botvinnik Memorial Rapid (2011) ahead of Aronian, Kramnik and Carlsen with 4.5/6 (+3 =3 -0). In October 2011, he defeated Shakhriyar Mamedyarov by 2-0 in the final to win the Corsica Masters Knockout (2011).

Awards

Anand has won the Chess Oscar on 6 occasions, in 1997, 1998, 2003, 2004, 2007, and 2008. He has received many other national and international awards including the Arjuna award for Outstanding Indian Sportsman in Chess in 1985, the inaugural Rajiv Gandhi Khel Ratna Award, India's highest sporting honour in the year 1991–1992, the British Chess Federation’s 'Book of the Year' Award in 1998 for his book My Best Games of Chess, the Padma Bhushan in 2000, the Sportstar Millennium Award in 1998 from India's premier Sports magazine for being the sportperson of the millennium. In 2007, he was awarded India's second highest civilian award, the Padma Vibhushan, making him the first sportsperson to receive the award in Indian history and received the 'Global Strategist Award' for mastering many formats of World Chess Championships by National Association of Software and Services Companies (NASSCOM) in 2011.

Personal

Anand holds a Bachelor's degree in Commerce from Loyola College in Chennai, India. Previously, he attended High School at Don Bosco. He is married to Aruna Anand and lives in Chennai along with his son Akhil Anand. In August 2010, Anand joined the Board of Directors of Olympic Gold Quest, a foundation for promoting and supporting India's elite sportspersons and potential young talent. In 2010 Anand donated his World Championship gold medal from his successful 2008 title defense to the charitable organisation "The Foundation" to be auctioned off for the benefit of underprivileged children.

Rating and Ranking

<Classical> Anand is one of six players in history to crack the 2800 mark. However, as of 1 May 2013, his rating was 2783 making him the 5th ranked player in the world, and the top rated player in the Asian region.

<Rapid> 2794 (world #5);

<Blitz> not rated as yet.

Sources and references

Live rating: http://www.2700chess.com/; Biography of Anand at the official FIDE website for the 2012 World Championship match: http://moscow2012.fide.com/en/prese...; Wikipedia article: Viswanathan Anand; * Aronian vs Anand, 2013


 page 1 of 107; games 1-25 of 2,674  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Kiril Georgiev vs Anand 1-035 1984 Wch U20E63 King's Indian, Fianchetto, Panno Variation
2. Van der Wiel vs Anand 1-027 1984 ThessalonikiB42 Sicilian, Kan
3. Anand vs A Greenfeld 1-080 1984 Lloyds Bank opB43 Sicilian, Kan, 5.Nc3
4. Piket vs Anand 0-144 1984 Wch U20A48 King's Indian
5. D Alzate vs Anand 0-166 1984 ?B80 Sicilian, Scheveningen
6. Anand vs M Apicella 1-025 1984 Champigny sur Marne opB76 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack
7. K Perera vs Anand 1-060 1984 Asia-ch U20 8thC70 Ruy Lopez
8. Anand vs C Hansen ½-½19 1984 ?B05 Alekhine's Defense, Modern
9. Anand vs D Hergott 1-038 1984 ThessalonikiB33 Sicilian
10. P Ostermeyer vs Anand 0-141 1984 ThessalonikiA15 English
11. Anand vs A J Mestel 1-025 1985 LondonB76 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack
12. P Mithrakanth vs Anand 0-130 1985 IndiaB84 Sicilian, Scheveningen
13. Blatny vs Anand 1-032 1985 SharjahB25 Sicilian, Closed
14. Anand vs Ivanchuk ½-½50 1985 Wch U20C78 Ruy Lopez
15. V Perera vs Anand 1-029 1985 9th Asian Junior ChC05 French, Tarrasch
16. P Paiewonsky vs Anand 0-131 1985 Wch U20D79 Neo-Grunfeld, 6.O-O, Main line
17. Anand vs Dlugy 1-060 1985 SharjahB17 Caro-Kann, Steinitz Variation
18. Razuvaev vs Anand  ½-½32 1986 CalcuttaE80 King's Indian, Samisch Variation
19. Anand vs N McDonald 1-044 1986 London/Leningrad (WM)C18 French, Winawer
20. Anand vs Seirawan ½-½45 1986 DubaiC16 French, Winawer
21. Anand vs D V Prasad 1-030 1986 BhilwaraC84 Ruy Lopez, Closed
22. Sax vs Anand 0-130 1986 PhiladelphiaB80 Sicilian, Scheveningen
23. Anand vs Bareev 1-027 1986 GausdalC16 French, Winawer
24. Anand vs N Murshed  1-060 1986 CalcuttaB46 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation
25. Anand vs T Thorhallsson  1-039 1986 GausdalB57 Sicilian
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Kibitzer's Corner
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Sep-04-12  shach matov: Well <drik> I saw you on So page for weaks, arguing about the most nonsensical things.

And the funny thing is that the So fans, most of whom seem to be just kids having fun, have set one trap after another and you have fallen into each one of them ;]

They would provoke you time and time again and you would constantly bite their bait. And you left completely defeated with a whole lot of enemies on this site now. They all seem to hate you very much. It's time to grow up and make peace maybe? Fighting with kids about another kid is for kids ;] Just a thought...

Sep-04-12  Jim Bartle: More to the point, shach matov, So fans like tolengoy, tahdah and voratco (all of whom have now disappeared, probably having returned with new names) made absurd comments about how Wesley So was being discriminated against and Carlsen was being pampered. Ludicrous comments, and drik showed why. If that's what you call "setting a trap," your definition is very different from mine.

Maybe they were kids, but they weren't just having fun.

I don't see how drik is completely defeated, although I don't look at all the pages he must comment on.

Sep-04-12  shach matov: We see things differently Jim. If a group of kids constantly tells you that their hero is "the man" and you argue with them for weeks that he is not... that means you have been had. They throw trolling baits and he would reply to each one of them. That in itself means defeat! But hey, whatever makes one happy...
Sep-04-12  Jim Bartle: But those guys were trying to make serious claims, such as that So's record vs. 2700s (3-20-0 in the period cited) was better than Carlsen's (22-8-40), because he didn't have any losses.

Remember, shach matov, these are people who, if he were still active, would claim Wesley So was just as good as Kasparov, and Kasparov was on top only because of discrimination in his favor.

Sep-04-12  shach matov: Let them claim whatever they like! What does it matter, everybody knows the truth anyway. My point is that to stretch the argument for weeks (it seems) about the most silly and nonsensical claims is my definition of "falling into a trap". They have trapped drik continuously and they had the last word... so what was the point of arguing for weeks then? If he believes he was right, he should go back to So page and finish the argument until everybody is convinced.

He left defeated, and they had the last word. I don't know what your argument with them was about, but I am sure it was more meaningful and you were able to establish your position much better.

The point: what is the point of arguing for weeks if drik will simply give up and leave, humiliated and defeated? Some of them celebrated their victory when he left. So there was no point in starting the argument in the first place.

Sep-04-12  Jim Bartle: Ha! Your point about arguing the exact same point over and over is correct, I have to admit, and I've certainly "fallen into a trap" a time or two, and as I recall, you certainly did a couple of years back as well.
Sep-04-12  shach matov: Well we all do sometimes when we think that the other guy is serious... but there's a difference in making a couple of comments vs arguing for weeks ;]
Sep-04-12
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  HeMateMe: Winning five 24 game matches in a row is ALWAYS dominating. I can't think of anyone who could disagree with that. It doesn't matter that the matches were close. Of coures, Karpov was a great player. Still, when you are able to consistenly beat the same player in match play, year after year, you are clearly better. Maybe you should take a college statistics course. Or go to Las Vegas, and see how you do, with your curious understanding of how odds work.

Who cares if Kasparov said "2001 was my best year", or whatever it is he said? Korchnoi claims to have played a chess game with a dead man. Instead of treating an off the cuff remark by a GM like it is gospel, just look at the record. No one was as good as Kasparov, as a young man.

BTW, why are you arguing this point, on the Anand page?

Sep-04-12  AuN1: <drik: <shach matov: Maybe it's time to get a life and grow up?>

Oh & apart from the irony of a 3000 time poster telling a 1000 time poster to get a life - I notice you went to the So page explicitly to mock me! LOL! How pathetic, no comment about So - just about ME. It is clearly time for you to grow up - as for getting a life ... good luck with that.>

he'd have to go through puberty first. he's still a long way from being an adult if his posts are anything to go by.

Sep-04-12  AuN1: <HeMateMe: Winning five 24 game matches in a row is ALWAYS dominating. I can't think of anyone who could disagree with that. It doesn't matter that the matches were close. Of coures, Karpov was a great player. Still, when you are able to consistenly beat the same player in match play, year after year, you are clearly better. Maybe you should take a college statistics course. Or go to Las Vegas, and see how you do, with your curious understanding of how odds work.

Who cares if Kasparov said "2001 was my best year", or whatever it is he said? Korchnoi claims to have played a chess game with a dead man. Instead of treating an off the cuff remark by a GM like it is gospel, just look at the record. No one was as good as Kasparov, as a young man.

BTW, why are you arguing this point, on the Anand page?>

are you comparing kasparov with korchnoi now? we know viktor to be a senile, bitter, foolhardy old man who makes a lot of off the cuff remarks. kasparov is much more methodical in what he says, and if he makes a statement about when he thinks he was at his best, you'd best damn well believe he thought about that long and hard before he said it.

Sep-05-12
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  HeMateMe: My expeience is that chessplayers are not always objective about their careers. Looking at their results over a sustained period should paint a more accurate picture than any comments by the chessplayer in question.

If Kasparov said his best year occured when he was 37, or whatever age that was, fine. It would be a rarity. Most great players have their best tournament sucess in the 20s. Kasparov, of course, had both great match AND tournament sucess in his 20s. I think the record would show he was more lethal as a young man, than he was at age 35, or 37, whatever your exact quote was.

Sep-05-12  Pravitel: <HeMateMe: Winning five 24 game matches in a row is ALWAYS dominating.>

Would you kindly tell me what were those five 24-game matches that Kasparov WON in a row against Karpov or anybody? As I happen to own Kasparov's 3 books on his every games against Karpov and I found no such row of matches.

Sep-05-12  shach matov: <Most great players have their best tournament sucess in the 20s.> that's correct. And there's more than enough evidence to show that clearly in this case. Sonas for example gives GK's 4 of his 5 best tourney performances during the years 88-93 and only one outside that period in 99. It seems this also applies to many other players like Karpov, Anand, with 20's and early to mid 30's.
Sep-05-12  drik: <shach matov: Well <drik> I saw you on So page for weaks, arguing about the most nonsensical things.>

Then you should have commented on whatever you found 'nonsensical' - rather than just resorting to personal mockery.

Sep-05-12  drik: <shach matov: We see things differently Jim. If a group of kids constantly tells you that their hero is "the man" and you argue with them for weeks that he is not... that means you have been had.>

As ever Shach Matov - you comment without knowing the full picture. These 'kids' as you call them, first came to my notice on the World Blitz page, where they claimed that world chess was some Elo preserving, anti-So conspiracy. After a few comments, I let it be. I then came across them on several trolling on several other pages & finally after reading reams of rubbish about So on Carlsen's page, I decided the place to discuss So was on So's page. At least by following the trolls & sockpuppets onto their own page, the rest of the site stays a little cleaner.

Sep-05-12  drik: <shach matov: Some of them celebrated their victory when he left.>

Tolenoy, Tadah etc. are no longer trolling on the pages I read. That is enough for me.

Sep-05-12  shach matov: Well to each his own I guess... but as far as sockpuppets, they have been polluting the pages of the site lately to an unprecedented degree, the admins seem to have given up. I personally could care less, but I guess for some people it's a real problem. It can be entertaining sometimes though... ;]
Sep-05-12  drik: <HeMateMe: Winning five 24 game matches in a row is ALWAYS dominating.>

You know of course that Karpov was LEADING the first match 5-3, when it was stopped & Karpov RETAINED THE TITLE. So what makes you award the match to Kasparov. Do you remember that the Seville 87 match ended 12-12. Is that a match 'win' too?

Sep-05-12  drik: <HeMateMe: Who cares if Kasparov said "2001 was my best year">

Who cares? Anyone NOT suffciently arrogant to think thay know more about Kasparov than Kasparov himself.

<or whatever it is he said?>

Not only do you hold Kasparov's opinion in contempt - you can't even remember it.

"And of course 1999. I think that was probably my best year."

But why should you remember it - you seem to have a far higher regard for your opinion.

<BTW, why are you arguing this point, on the Anand page?>

I wasn't. I merely quoted Kramnik saying that Anand had improved substantially since 2002. Shach Matov took this as some slight against Kasparov ...

Sep-05-12  shach matov: <Who cares if Kasparov said "2001 was my best year", or whatever it is he said? Korchnoi claims to have played a chess game with a dead man. Instead of treating an off the cuff remark by a GM like it is gospel, just look at the record. No one was as good as Kasparov, as a young man.>

I would also add that all players have a certain degree of agenda so we should always be careful in using opinions of one player regarding another, especially the top players who always compete against each other. The real facts and numbers are always more reliable than opinions.

Sep-05-12  drik: <HeMateMe: If Kasparov said his best year occured when he was 37, or whatever age that was, fine. It would be a rarity. Most great players have their best tournament sucess in the 20s.>

Simply going by statistics is no reason to disregard a player's own opinion. Kasparov says his peak was at 37. Kramnik says that Anand improved SUBSTANTIALLY from the age of 39. Korchnoi peaked at the age of 47. You can't simply go by the averages EVERY time.

Sep-05-12  shach matov: <Jim Bartle: Ha! Your point about arguing the exact same point over and over is correct, I have to admit>

Yep, one should always remember that not just others but we ourselves can be guilty of repetition.

Sep-05-12
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  alexmagnus: <Most great players have their best tournament sucess in the 20s.>

But not match success, or what? After all, of 15 world champions only 6 were under 30 at their first title (Lasker, Tal, Fischer, Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik). Five were between 31 and 35, three between 36 and 40, one (Steinitz) was 49, but we can count him out as the founder of the title.

Sep-05-12
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  pawn to QB4: < Most great players have their best tournament sucess in the 20s.> this idea interested me, but a flick through chessmetrics, for want of anything better, seems to show that most (not all) of the top dozen listed there had their best tournament results after the age of 30. Things might have changed in favour of younger players more recently.
Sep-05-12
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  perfidious: <drik> The examples you cite are exceptions which prove the rule.

It's long been held that a chess master's peak is at age 35, though elsewhere, <Marmot PFL> said he believed it was still younger. This view may well (IIRC) have been based on the results of some young tigers, though perhaps we should wait till they've got a few more miles on their belts.

As to what Kasparov has stated regarding his own peak playing strength, those comments were not on a par with Fischer's pronouncement 'The King's Gambit is busted. It loses by force', which is clearly hyped-up youth speaking. In time, even Fischer matured and no longer threw out such one-liners for public consumption.

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