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Veselin Topalov
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Number of games in database: 2,128
Years covered: 1986 to 2017
Last FIDE rating: 2739 (2715 rapid, 2710 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2816

Overall record: +502 -271 =684 (57.9%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 671 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (185) 
    B90 B33 B48 B30 B46
 Ruy Lopez (148) 
    C78 C84 C88 C65 C67
 Ruy Lopez, Closed (70) 
    C84 C88 C92 C90 C95
 Slav (65) 
    D17 D12 D15 D11 D19
 Queen's Indian (59) 
    E15 E17 E16 E12
 Queen's Gambit Declined (57) 
    D37 D38 D39 D31 D35
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (286) 
    B90 B51 B33 B30 B22
 Sicilian Najdorf (111) 
    B90 B92 B91 B93 B97
 Ruy Lopez (83) 
    C67 C78 C65 C88 C92
 King's Indian (82) 
    E92 E97 E94 E98 E81
 Queen's Pawn Game (68) 
    E10 E00 A46 A40 A41
 Modern Benoni (55) 
    A57 A70 A58 A61 A67
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Anand vs Topalov, 2005 1/2-1/2
   Topalov vs Aronian, 2006 1-0
   Topalov vs Kramnik, 2008 1-0
   Topalov vs Anand, 2005 1-0
   Topalov vs Ponomariov, 2005 1-0
   Topalov vs Kasparov, 1996 1-0
   Kharlov vs Topalov, 2004 0-1
   Kramnik vs Topalov, 2005 0-1
   Topalov vs Anand, 2005 1/2-1/2
   Svidler vs Topalov, 2005 0-1

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2001)
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004)
   FIDE World Championship Tournament (2005)
   Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006)
   Anand - Topalov World Chess Championship (2010)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   10th Euwe Memorial (1996)
   Liga de Campeones (2007)
   Corus (2006)
   FIDE Grand Prix Zug (2013)
   Norway Chess (2015)
   M-Tel Masters (2008)
   Corus (2007)
   7th Corsica Open (2003)
   Morelia-Linares (2008)
   Tradewise Gibraltar (2017)
   Linares (1994)
   Tradewise Gibraltar (2015)
   Olympiad (2008)
   Chess Olympiad (2012)
   Chess Olympiad (2014)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Match Topalov! by amadeus
   Exchange sacs - 1 by obrit
   Power Chess - Topalov by Anatoly21
   Topalov! by larrewl
   Topalov great games by Topzilla
   The tT Players (Bonus Addition) by fredthebear
   Classic Topalov by amadeus
   Topalov and the two bishops by OJC
   Najdorf, English Attack by AdrianP
   AdrianP's Bookmarked Games (2005) by AdrianP
   Najdorf - 6. Be3 by pcmvtal
   Complex favorites by Whitehat1963

   B Gledura vs Topalov (Jan-28-17) 0-1
   Topalov vs B D Deac (Jan-28-17) 1-0
   Topalov vs D Howell (Jan-28-17) 1-0
   I Cheparinov vs Topalov (Jan-28-17) 1/2-1/2
   Sutovsky vs Topalov (Jan-28-17) 0-1

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(born Mar-15-1975, 42 years old) Bulgaria

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IM (1989); GM (1992); World U14 Champion (1989); Olympiad Gold Medalist (1994); FIDE World Champion (2005-06); World Championship Challenger (2010); Candidate (2011, 2014 and 2016); winner of the 2012-13 Grand Prix series.


A former – and the last - FIDE World Champion, Veselin Topalov was born in Rousse, Bulgaria. He learned chess at eight years old from his father and began a training/mentoring relationship with Silvio Danailov when he was twelve.

Youth championships

In 1989, he won the World Under-14 championship in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico. In 1990 he won a silver medal in the World Under-16 Championship in Singapore.

World Championships

In the knockout tournaments for the FIDE World Chess Championship, Topalov was seeded into the second round in Groningen in 1998, and lost to Jeroen Piket. Again seeded into the second round at the championships in Las Vegas in 1999, Topalov reached the last 16 defeating Ruslan Ponomariov and Lev Psakhis before bowing out to Vladimir Kramnik. In New Delhi and Tehran in 2000, he reached the quarter-finals in 2000 – again from a second round start - defeating Andrei Kharlov, Kiril Dimitrov Georgiev and Alexey Dreev before losing to Michael Adams. In 2002, he defeated Juan Facundo Pierrot, Giovanni Portilho Vescovi and Zhong Zhang before losing to Shirov. He reached the semi-finals in the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004) in Tripoli, defeating Tarik Abulhul, Aleksander Delchev, Sergei Movsesian, Zdenko Kozul and Andrei Kharlov in the earlier rounds before losing to eventual winner Rustam Kasimdzhanov.

He also took part in the 2002 Dortmund Candidates' tournament to determine a challenger for World Classical Champion Kramnik, but lost the finals match to Peter Leko.

On the strength of his rating, Topalov was invited to the eight-player, double round-robin FIDE World Championship Tournament (2005) in San Luis, Argentina, in September–October 2005. Scoring 6½/7 in the first cycle, Topalov had virtually clinched the tournament at the halfway mark, before drawing every game in the second cycle to win by 1½ points to become FIDE World Chess Champion. The average rating of the field in the championship was 2739, and Topalov's performance rating was 2890. In 2006 he lost his title to Kramnik in the reunification Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006) played in Elista, under the auspices of FIDE. By losing the reunification match, Topalov lost his chance to compete in the FIDE World Championship Tournament (2007) . Danailov expressed a desire for a rematch between Topalov and Kramnik, proposing a match in March 2007, though no such match took place. The issue was settled in June 2007 when Topalov (as well as Kramnik) was granted special privileges in the 2008-09 championship cycle. Topalov was given direct entry to a "Challenger Match" against the winner of the World Chess Cup (2007) , Gata Kamsky. The Topalov - Kamsky Match (2009) (the Challenger Match) took place in February 2009 in Hall 6 of NDK Sofia. Topalov won that match 4½-2½ and qualified to play against the World Champion Viswanathan Anand for the World Chess Champion title, but he lost the Anand - Topalov World Chess Championship (2010) by 6½-5½. Topalov automatically qualified for the World Championship Candidates (2011) for the World Chess Championship 2012, where he was the top seed. He faced 8th seeded Gata Kamsky in Kazan in Russia and lost his match 1.5-2.5 (+0 =3 -1), and was thereby eliminated from the 2012 World Championship cycle. He declined to participate in the World Cup (2011) and there was speculation about his future Championship intentions.

Late in 2012, Topalov rejoined the championship circuit from which he had been noticeably absent to take =1st alongside Boris Gelfand and Shakhriyar Mamedyarov at the 1st FIDE Grand Prix London (2012) of the 2012-2013 series, which was held in London. His score of 7/11 (+3 =8 -0; TPR 2834) netted him the 140 points to give a flying start to his 2014 World Championship campaign. A superb follow up at the FIDE Grand Prix Zug (2013), the 3rd event in the GP series, saw him take outright 1st with 8/11 (+5 =6) with a stellar performance rating for the event of 2924. It also added 170 Grand Prix points to his tally to take him to the lead with 310 points. A poor performance at the FIDE Grand Prix Thessaloniki (2013) with 4.5/11 earned him only 45 Grand Prix points, however, his =3rd in the FIDE Grand Prix Beijing (2013) earned him enough Grand Prix points to win the Grand Prix and guarantee his qualification into the World Chess Championship Candidates (2014). (1) His official rating also qualified him to participate in the World Cup (2013) if he so chose, but instead he successfully gambled that he would qualify via the Grand Prix series. At the Candidates event that was held in March 2014 in Khanty-Mansiysk, Topalov scored a disappointing 6/14 to place 8th and last.

Topalov qualified by rating to play in the World Cup (2015). In the first round he defeated Oladapo Oluto Adu of Nigeria by 2-0, Sergei Zhigalko by 1.5-0.5 in round two and Lu Shanglei in the first set of rapid game tiebreakers in round three. He played Peter Svidler in the Round of Sixteen (fourth round) and lost the standard games match 0.5-1.5 to bow out of the event. However, he qualified by rating to play in the Candidates Tournament of 2016.


Topalov first major tournament wins were Terrassa 1992 and Budapest zonal-B 1993. He played in Linares 1994 (6½/13), Linares 1995 (8/13), Amsterdam 1995, and won at Polanica Zdroj and Elenite in 1995. In March 1996, Topalov won at Amsterdam (coming =1st with Garry Kasparov), Vienna (ahead of Anatoly Karpov), Novgorod, and Dos Hermanas (1st-2nd with Kramnik). In 1996, he was invited to Las Palmas, the first category 21 tournament, where he scored 5/10, in a field including Kasparov, Anand, Kramnik and Karpov. In 1996 he also took a series of top-level tournament wins-- Madrid and Dos Hermanas in May, Novgorod in July, Vienna in August, as well as Leon - to firmly establish himself among the world's leading players. Between 1997 and 2003, Topalov continued his tournament successes, winning at Antwerp 1997, Madrid 1997, Monaco 2001, Dortmund 2001 (joint first with Kramnik), NAO Chess Masters Cannes 2002 (joint first with Gelfand), the Hotel Bali Stars (2003) at Benidorm 2003, and coming 2nd at the category 16 tournament in Bosnia in 2001. 2004 saw Topalov participate in Corus (2004) and 21st Linares (2004) (coming =4th on both occasions), and in the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004). He began 2005 by climbing to third place on FIDE's world ranking list. Topalov finished 3rd behind Peter Leko and Anand at Corus 2005 and tied for first (coming second on count back) with Garry Kasparov at XXII Torneo Ciudad de Linares (2005) in Kasparov’s final tournament. Two months later, he won the inaugural MTel Masters (2005) event by a full point over Viswanathan Anand; the average rating of the participants was 2744, making this super-GM, double round-robin tournament the strongest in 2005. After his =2nd at Dortmund in 2005, Topalov followed up his 2005 World Championship Tournament victory (see below) with +5 and joint first (with Anand) at Corus (2006) and =2nd at Linares (2006). There followed his successful defence of MTel Masters (2006) (with 6.5/10, half a point ahead of Gata Kamsky whom he beat 2-0), Topalov started the tournament somewhat hesitantly to later record four consecutive wins and decisively claim the title.

Topalov rebounded from his world championship reunification match loss to Kramnik in 2006 to finish equal first (with Levon Aronian and Teimour Radjabov) at the category 19 Corus (2007), but then a poor performance at Linares - Morelia (2007) caused him to lose his #1 spot in the world rankings to Anand. The next year, he regained the #1 position by convincingly winning the inaugural Bilbao Grand Slam Chess Final (2008), scoring +4 -1 =5 in the category-22 tournament. Also in 2007, he won the Mtel Masters (2007), the Liga de Campeones (2007) (a point and a half a head of Ruslan Ponomariov), and in 2008 he won Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2008) (a point and a half ahead of Aronian). In 2009, he came 2nd with Magnus Carlsen behind Alexey Shirov in the M-Tel Masters (2009) and second behind Carlsen at the latter’s blitz at Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2009). Soon after losing the world title bid in 2010, Topalov participated in the Essent Chess Tournament. He finished third of four players with only 2½ points from 6 games and a 2645 performance. He lost both games against Judit Polgar and one against Shakhriyar Mamedyarov. Topalov won the Linares (2010) held from February 13 to 24 in Andalusia, Spain, defeating 2009 Chess World Cup champion Boris Gelfand in his final game. He finished 2010 with 4.5/10 at Nanjing Pearl Spring Tournament (2010). Topalov continued his unremarkable form since narrowly losing his 2010 World Championship match when in early 2012, he finished tenth at the category 21 Tata Steel (2012), scoring 5/13 (+1 -4 =8; TPR 2672), before returning to form in the 1st Grand Prix of the 2012-13 series (see above), in the 28th European Club Cup (2012), and with his =1st (2nd on tiebreak) at the Kings' Tournament (2012). That form, however, was less than par in the category 21 Norway Chess Tournament (2013) where he finished in the bottom half of the field with 4/9.

In August and September 2014, Topalov competed in the round robin category category 23 Sinquefield Cup (2014), where he placed outright 3rd with 5/10 behind Caruana and Carlsen respectively. In January 2015, he competed at Tradewise Gibraltar (2015) and placed =3rd behind Hikaru Nakamura and David Howell. In June 2015, Topalov had the finest result of his career since San Luis 2005 when he led the field from start to finish to win the category 23 Norway Chess (2015) event, in which most of the world's top 10 participated. Topalov's result was 6.5/9 (+5 -1 =3) for a 2946 PR, half a point ahead of Hikaru Nakamura and Anand. He also recorded both his career best live rating and official ratings as a result of this event, adding 18 rating points to his resume. At the Sinquefield Cup (2015), his score of 4.5/9 was essentially rating-neutral midfield, however his gains were undone at the London Chess Classic (2015) where he finished last with 2.5/9, shedding 23 rating points.


Topalov has been the leader of the Bulgarian national team since 1994 and has played top board for Bulgaria at every Olympiad in which he participated including Moscow 1994, Yerevan 1996, Elista 1998, Istanbul 2000, Dresden 2008, Khanty-Mansiysk 2010, the Chess Olympiad (2012) in Istanbul and the Chess Olympiad (2014) in Tromsø. In 1994, he led the Bulgarians to a fifth-place finish, winning the gold medal for the top board, scoring 8.5/12 (TPR 2781). He won the silver medal for the top board in 1998 and 2000, scoring 8/11 on both occasions. In 2008, he won bronze with 6.5/8 and a TPR of 2821. In 2014, he won individual gold for the top board, having scored a TPR of 2872.

Other Team Play

<National> In 1989 and 1990, Topalov played in the Bulgarian team contesting the Boys' Balkaniads competition, playing on board 2 in 1989 and board 1 in 1990, winning individual gold on both occasions, as well as a team gold in 1989 and team bronze in 1990. In 1994, he played top board for the gold medal winning Bulgarian national team in the Balkaniad team competition, and won an individual bronze. Topalov played top board for Bulgaria in the European Team Championships of 1999 (where he won individual gold), 2007, 2009 and 2011. Playing for Bulgaria, he also won individual gold for the top board at the European Team Championship (2013).

<European Club Cup (ECC)> In 1999, he played 3 games for the gold medal winning ECC team ŠK Bosna Sarajevo, winning two and drawing one. In 2012, 2013 and 2014, he played for SOCAR Baku: at the 28th European Club Cup (2012), he played board 3, winning both individual and team gold. Topalov played board 3 for SOCAR in the European Club Cup (2013), scoring a solid 4.5/6 and winning individual and team bronze. In the European Club Cup (2014), he repeated his 2012 triumph by winning team and individual gold (this time for board 2). Playing board one at the European Club Cup (2015), Topalov won individual and team silver.


Topalov won the Topalov - Nisipeanu Match (2006) by 3-1 (+2 =2 -0) in April 2006, the Blind Chess World Duel (2006) against Polgar by 3.5-2.5, and the Topalov - Laznicka Match (2013) by 4-2 (+3 -1 =2).


Topalov won the Dos Hermanas XIV (2008) , 17–21 April 2008, defeating Francisco Vallejo Pons (Spain) 2½–1½ in the final match by winning the first game and drawing the rest. He also won the Villarrobledo International Rapid Open (2008) with a commanding 8/9.

Ratings and rankings

<Classical> After Kasparov's retirement, Topalov topped the FIDE World Rating List from April 2006 to January 2007, during which time his Elo rating peaked at 2813, a level that had been surpassed only by Garry Kasparov, and subsequently by Anand, Carlsen, Aronian and Caruana. He regained the world #1 ranking again in October 2008, and officially remained #1 until January 2010, when he fell to #2 behind Carlsen. He has been ranked number one a total of 27 months in his career, the fifth all-time high since the inception of the FIDE ranking lists in 1971 behind only Garry Kasparov, Anatoly Karpov, Robert James Fischer and most recently Carlsen.

After his unsuccessful challenge for the world title in 2010, his form declined such that by 1 October 2012, Topalov's rating was 2751, his lowest rating since July 2004 and his ranking to number 13 in the world, his lowest ranking since January 1995. However his return to form in September and October 2012 (see above) saw him return to the top 10, while his successful campaign in the Zug leg of the 2012-13 Grand Prix series saw him leap back to #4 in the world ratings. In 2015, Topalov's win at the annual Norway Chess tournament improved even his stocks even further when he reached his highest live rating to date, 2821.2, while his highest official rating to date was 2816 on 1 July 2015, sharing the world #2 spot with Anand.


Topalov won the 2005 Chess Oscar. Although he now lives in Spain, Topalov still plays for Bulgaria and has enjoyed several athletic honors from his native country, including the Sportsman of the Year award for 2005. He is renowned for his aggressive style which is exemplified in his trademark and much-feared exchange sacrifice that he has employed with great effect at all levels of play. He and his partner have a daughter, Laura, who was born on 28 August 2013.

Sources and references:

(1) Wikipedia article: FIDE Grand Prix 2012%E2%80%932013; Live rating:; Wikipedia article: Topalov; Wikipedia article: World Chess Championship 2012

Last updated: 2016-08-05 22:14:21

 page 1 of 86; games 1-25 of 2,128  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Topalov vs D Marholev 1-021 1986 TournamentC64 Ruy Lopez, Classical
2. A Strikovic vs Topalov 0-131 1988 Forli opB22 Sicilian, Alapin
3. Topalov vs F Braga ½-½14 1988 10s, Forli opD19 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav, Dutch
4. Topalov vs V Lukov 0-127 1988 SofiaA61 Benoni
5. S De Eccher vs Topalov 0-167 1988 ForliA25 English
6. P Votruba vs Topalov ½-½66 1988 ForliB06 Robatsch
7. Topalov vs Meduna  ½-½21 1988 ForliD18 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav, Dutch
8. Topalov vs Granda Zuniga 0-146 1988 Forli op 88\10A78 Benoni, Classical with ...Re8 and ...Na6
9. Topalov vs R Mantovani 1-059 1988 ForliE12 Queen's Indian
10. Topalov vs E Gonsior ½-½11 1988 ForliD55 Queen's Gambit Declined
11. Lizbov vs Topalov 0-129 1988 MoskauB92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky Variation
12. Topalov vs G Minchev 0-154 1988 SofiaB57 Sicilian
13. C Garcia Palermo vs Topalov ½-½37 1988 ForliA41 Queen's Pawn Game (with ...d6)
14. S Danailov vs Topalov 0-138 1989 Sofia ch-BGA40 Queen's Pawn Game
15. T Luther vs Topalov 1-059 1989 GroningenB98 Sicilian, Najdorf
16. Topalov vs Kiril D Georgiev  0-150 1989 BUL-chE12 Queen's Indian
17. Topalov vs K Ninov  ½-½46 1989 Ch BLGD10 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
18. Topalov vs D Pedzich  ½-½41 1989 GroningenE73 King's Indian
19. D Donchev vs Topalov 1-019 1989 Ch BLGC04 French, Tarrasch, Guimard Main line
20. Topalov vs A J Norris 1-035 1989 GroningenB06 Robatsch
21. Topalov vs T Fogarasi  ½-½23 1989 Ch Europe (juniors)D39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation
22. Stefansson vs Topalov ½-½78 1989 ArnhemC16 French, Winawer
23. G Minchev vs Topalov 1-047 1989 SofiaA46 Queen's Pawn Game
24. Dreev vs Topalov ½-½17 1989 Groningen (Netherlands)A52 Budapest Gambit
25. M Markovic vs Topalov 1-030 1989 GroningenC10 French
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Feb-11-09  drkodos: KK matches as well, I opine.

Feb-11-09  drkodos: 'cept there, the paradox sort of held itself together .....

...sort of....

Feb-11-09  Riverbeast: Yes, in KK matches Irresistible force won, but immovable object held its own.....

Feb-11-09  nimzo knight: How come is not covering Topa-Gata championship
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  NakoSonorense: We all know the result already...
Feb-12-09  blacksburg: exactly...someone's gonna have a hissy fit and they're not even gonna play.
Feb-13-09  the.toilet.war: Topalov is mentally unstable and you all know it guys. If he loses game #1 or he ties the first couple of games he will loose the match for sure. I don't think it will matter that he is #1 ranked by FIDE.
Feb-17-09  bharatiy: not so nice start for Topa against Kamsky. I am actually rooting for Kamsky so that Topa will be toppled from No 1 on rating and Anand will have a nice chance to beat Kamsky who had been Anand's nemesis for some time.
Feb-18-09  drkodos: You are my beaches.
Finely ground
Particles of inert glass
Eroded and washed up.
I walk across your dunes.
You are my beaches.
Feb-18-09  blueofnoon: I was watching the game 2 of the match in live streaming video and could not help laughing...

While Kamsky spent like 10 minutes for every moves in the opening, Topalov replied almost instantly... like in 5 seconds.

During Gata's contemplation Veselin was trying hard pretending he was thinking too...

But it was obvious he got bored, as he "knew" all the stuff already. Okay, this is modern chess, and like it or not, you have to cope with it.

Go Topalov!

Feb-21-09  kramrich: blueofnoon...i was laughing also during game 4 until now...hahaha
Feb-23-09  praddy06: kramrich <blueofnoon...i was laughing also during game 4 until now...hahaha>

i see u when topalov loses and u wait to kibitz till he loses another game must be a hard time being a kramnik fan.

i dont wat he has u hate him so much...

Feb-26-09  you vs yourself: Congratulations to Topalov! The match was closer than the score indicates. Now I can't wait to see his match against Anand!
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  outplayer: Topalov will be world champion!!
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  whiteshark: <you vs yourself: <Congratulations to Topalov! <The match was closer than the score indicates. Now I can't wait to see his match against Anand!>>> So true! I agree with every word. :D
Feb-26-09  MaxxLange: Congrats to Topalov and his fans. Does anyone know when the Anand match is? FIDE isn't going to try to hold in in Pakistan or something like that, I hope.
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  acirce: The match is still officially planned to take place later this year as far as I know, but that will probably prove unrealistic. What's wrong with Pakistan?
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  suenteus po 147: <acirce: What's wrong with Pakistan?> As a site for the match or just in general?
Feb-26-09  Woody Wood Pusher: Congratulations to Topalov.

As long as he conducts himself properly in this match with Anand, I think it will be one to remember.

Here's hoping he can undo some of the damage he did to his reputation with Toiletgate, he is too strong a player to rely on underhanded tactics like that.

Feb-26-09  MaxxLange: <acirce> relations between Pakistan and India, Anand's home country, are poor. Remember when they tried to hold the Kamsky-Karpov match in Baghdad? It would be almost like that.

What I really want is: please, FIDE, don't find a way to botch this match.

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  suenteus po 147: I'm guessing that Elista will be the site of the Anand-Topalov match, since no else (aside from Bulgaria) will be likely to pony up the dough.
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  acirce: <suenteus po> I meant as a site for the match but feel free to vent any thoughts you may have on Pakistan :)

<MaxxLange> Yes, that makes sense. Ideally it should not be played in such a country. But I don't think Anand would refuse to play there or that it would have any significant influence on his play. I don't know, of course. But I agree with your main point...

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  suenteus po 147: <but feel free to vent any thoughts you may have on Pakistan :)> I was being funny (or trying to) more than anything else. I know things are a mess over there (in large part to questionable US foreign policy, and covert operations as well), but not enough to comment knowledgeably.
Feb-26-09  Marmot PFL: Oh sure, find a way to blame the US for everything, even a Hindu-Muslim conflict over Kashmir. if you want to point fingers at any outside country for that situation try Great Britain.
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  suenteus po 147: <Marmot PFL> I don't think the US is to be blamed for everything, but as a perceived "world leader," we have to be willing to endure our fair share of responsibility and criticism for world events, the bad as well as the good.
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