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Kramnik 
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Vladimir Kramnik
Number of games in database: 2,495
Years covered: 1984 to 2014
Last FIDE rating: 2760 (2773 rapid, 2757 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2811
Overall record: +469 -139 =843 (61.4%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      1044 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 English (117) 
    A15 A17 A14 A13 A10
 Sicilian (109) 
    B33 B30 B90 B52 B58
 King's Indian (106) 
    E97 E94 E92 E81 E86
 Slav (98) 
    D17 D15 D11 D12 D19
 Queen's Gambit Declined (94) 
    D37 D38 D31 D39 D30
 Grunfeld (76) 
    D85 D70 D87 D86 D82
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (256) 
    B33 B30 B31 B65 B57
 Ruy Lopez (110) 
    C67 C65 C88 C78 C84
 Petrov (102) 
    C42 C43
 Semi-Slav (100) 
    D45 D47 D43 D44 D46
 Queen's Gambit Declined (79) 
    D37 D38 D39 D30 D31
 Nimzo Indian (73) 
    E32 E21 E34 E46 E54
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Kramnik vs Leko, 2004 1-0
   Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1996 0-1
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1994 1-0
   Gelfand vs Kramnik, 1996 0-1
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004 0-1
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 2000 1-0
   Kramnik vs Morozevich, 2007 1-0
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004 1/2-1/2
   Topalov vs Kramnik, 2006 0-1
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 2001 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   Kasparov - Kramnik World Championship Match (2000)
   Kramnik - Leko World Championship Match (2004)
   Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006)
   FIDE World Championship Tournament (2007)
   Anand - Kramnik World Championship Match (2008)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Tilburg Fontys (1997)
   Wijk aan Zee Hoogovens (1998)
   Dortmund (1997)
   Cap D'Agde FRA (2003)
   Dortmund Sparkassen (2004)
   16th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2007)
   Dortmund (2011)
   Azerbaijan vs the World (2009)
   Linares (1997)
   13th Amber Blindfold (2004)
   Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2009)
   Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2010)
   London Chess Classic (2012)
   Dortmund (2013)
   World Cup (2013)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Kramnik - My Life and Games by jakaiden
   Match Kramnik! by amadeus
   Kramnik on a King Hunt & vs the World Champions by visayanbraindoctor
   English: Vladimir Kramnik Collection by chess.master
   Vladimir Kramnik's Best Games by KingG
   Vladimir Kramnik - Immortal masterpieces by Karpova
   Some interesting games by Kramnik by fgh
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 1990-1999 (Part 3) by Anatoly21
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 2000-2010 (Part 3) by Anatoly21
   Volodya versus Vesko by Resignation Trap
   Kramnik with Berlin Wall by tesasembiring by tesasembiring
   Kramnik & Carlsen play the Catalan by suenteus po 147
   Book of Samurai's favorite games 6 by Book of Samurai
   Kramnik g3 by Jason Harris

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VLADIMIR KRAMNIK
(born Jun-25-1975, 39 years old) Russia
PRONUNCIATION:
[what is this?]
Former World Champion Vladimir Borisovich Kramnik was born in Tuapse, on the shores of the Black Sea, on June 25, 1975. As a child, Vladimir Kramnik studied in the chess school established by Mikhail Botvinnik. In 2000 he won the Classical World Championship from Garry Kasparov and then won the unified title when he defeated Veselin Topalov in 2006 to become the 14th undisputed World Champion. He relinquished the title in 2007 to his successor, the 15th undisputed (and now former) World Champion, Viswanathan Anand.

Championships

<Age> In 1991 he won the World Under 18 Championship in Guarapuava, Brazil.

<National> He was =1st in the 1990 RSFSR (Russian) Championship in Kuibyshev, Russia, but placed 2nd on tiebreak behind Andrei Kharlov. He was =3rd in the Russian Superfinals (2013) after a last round battle with Ian Nepomniachtchi for =1st and the possibility of the title for the first time. However, he lost the game and scored 5.5/9, placing =3rd.

<World> Kramnik’s early attempts at storming the citadel of the World Championship met with mixed results. In 1994, he lost a Candidates quarter finals match for the PCA championship to Gata Kamsky by 1˝-4˝, and a few months later he lost a Candidates semi-finals match for the FIDE championship to Boris Gelfand by 3˝-4˝. In 1998, Kramnik was defeated by Alexey Shirov by 3˝-5˝ in the Candidates match held in Cazorla to determine the right to play Garry Kasparov for the Classical World Chess Championship. In 1999, Kramnik lost in the quarterfinals of the FIDE knockout championship in Las Vegas to Michael Adams by 2-4, including the 4 game rapid play-off.

Although Shirov had defeated Kramnik for the right to challenge Kasparov, suitable sponsorship was not found for a Kasparov-Shirov match, and it never took place. In 2000, however, sponsorship became available for a Kasparov-Kramnik match instead. This meant that Kramnik was the first player since 1935 - when Alexander Alekhine selected Max Euwe as his challenger - to play a world championship match without qualifying. In 2000 Kramnik reached the pinnacle by defeating long-time champion Kasparov for the World Championship in London by the score of 8˝ to 6˝ (+2 =13 -0) without losing a game, becoming the next Classical World Champion in the line that started from Wilhelm Steinitz. It was the first time since the Lasker - Capablanca World Championship Match (1921) that the defending champion had lost a match without winning a game and it was also the first time Kasparov had been beaten in a World Championship match. Kasparov said of Kramnik that: <”He is the hardest player to beat in the world.”>

In 2004, Kramnik successfully defended his title as Classical World Chess Champion against challenger Peter Leko at Brissago, Switzerland, by drawing the Kramnik - Leko World Championship Match (2004) in the last game. Lékó was leading the 14-game match until the final game, which Kramnik won, thus forcing a 7 - 7 draw and ensuring that Kramnik remained world champion. Because of the drawn result, the prize fund of 1 million Swiss francs was split between the two players.

Kramnik refused to participate at the FIDE World Championship Tournament (2005), but indicated his willingness to play a match against the winner to unify the world championship. His next title defence in 2006, therefore, was a reunification match with the new FIDE world title holder from the 2005 tournament, Veselin Topalov. The $1 million Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006) was played in Elista, Kalmykia from September 21 to October 13 and after controversially forfeiting the fifth game, Kramnik won the rapid game playoff by 2˝ -1˝ after the classical games were tied 6-6, thereby becoming the first undisputed unified World Chess Champion since the 1993 split. In the following year, Kramnik lost the unified world title when he finished second to Viswanathan Anand at the Mexico City FIDE World Championship Tournament (2007). In October 2008, Kramnik exercised his entitlement to a rematch as a challenger to World Champion Anand in Bonn, Germany, but lost the Anand - Kramnik World Championship Match (2008) match by 4˝ to 6˝ (+1 =7 -3).

Kramnik's tournament performances in 2009 (see below) raised his rating (average of July 2009 and January 2010 ratings) sufficiently to qualify him for the World Championship Candidates (2011). In the first round he beat Teimour Radjabov by the narrowest of margins*: after tieing the classical games 2-2 (+0 =4 -0), and the rapid games 2-2 (+0 =4 -0), he won the blitz playoff by 2.5-1.5 (+2 =1 -1) to move to the semi final match against Alexander Grischuk, which he lost 1.5-0.5 (=1 -1) in the blitz tiebreaker after he drew the classical games 2-2 (+0 -0 =4) and the rapid games 2-2 (+0 -0 =4), thereby eliminating him from the contest. Participating in the World Championship Candidates (2013) on the basis of his rating, Kramnik came =1st with Magnus Carlsen on 8.5/13 after both lost their last round games. As the first tiebreaker (individual score against the other player in the tournament) left them level, the second tiebreaker (greater number of wins in the tournament) relegated Kramnik to second place due to scoring four wins to Carlsen's five.

Kramnik was seeded directly into the World Chess Championship Candidates (2014), as he met the pre-condition that he participate in the World Cup (2013). During the Cup, he defeated Zambian IM Gillan Bwalya in the first round, compatriot GM Mikhail Kobalia in the second round, Ukrainian GM Alexander Areshchenko in the third round, veteran Ukrainian GM and twice former Candidate Vassily Ivanchuk in the Round of 16 (round four), his third Ukrainian opponent in the shape of GM Anton Korobov in the quarter final (round five), one of the wildcards of the event, French GM Maxime Vachier-Lagrave match in the semi final (round 6) before defeating compatriot GM Dmitry Andreikin in the final by 2.5-1.5 (+1 =3). His win also guarantees qualification in the World Cup 2015, although he would likely qualify by rating alone. At the Candidates in March 2014, he placed 3rd with 7/14 behind Anand and Karjakin.

Tournaments

Kramnik won Chalkidiki 1992 with 7.5/11, and in 1993, he played in Linares, finishing fifth and defeating the then world number three, Vassily Ivanchuk. Following some solid results in the interim which resulted in him winning the 1994 PCA Intel Grand Prix, major tournament triumphs were soon to follow, such as Dortmund 1995, Horgen 1995, Belgrade 1995, =1st in Dos Hermanas in 1996 and 1997, =1st in Tilburg 1997 (8/11). Dortmund became a favourite stop, as Kramnik has gone on to win nine more times in 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, Dortmund Sparkassen (2006), Dortmund (2007), Dortmund (2009) and Dortmund (2011), as either equal or clear first; in the 2011 edition of the event he won by 1.5 points despite losing in the last round. In 2000, Kramnik won his first Linares tournament, completing his set of victories in all three of chess' "triple crown" events: Corus, Linares, and Dortmund. Kramnik later captured additional Linares victories in XX Ciudad de Linares (2003) (shared) and 21st Linares (2004) (outright). He won the Tal Memorial (2007) with 6.5/9, 1.5 ahead of Shirov. Kramnik had exceptionally good results in 2009, winning once again in Dortmund and then winning the Category 21 (average ELO = 2763) Tal Memorial (2009) in Moscow with 6/9 and a TPR of 2883. At the time, the average ELO rating of the field made it the strongest tournament in history. He also participated in the London Chess Classic (2009) in December, finishing second to Magnus Carlsen. These magnificent results qualified him for the 2011 Candidates on the basis of his boosted ratings. Kramnik began 2010 at Corus (2010) in the Netherlands, during which he defeated new world number-one Carlsen with the Black pieces in their head-to-head encounter, ending Carlsen's 36-match unbeaten streak. A late loss to Anand knocked him out of first place, and Kramnik finished with 8/13, tying for second place with Shirov behind Carlsen's 8˝ points. He came 2nd in the preliminary Shanghai Masters (2010) to qualify for the Bilbao Masters (2010) against Carlsen and Anand, who had pre-qualified. He then won at Bilbao with +2 -0 =4 over world champion Anand, then-world number one Magnus Carlsen, and Shirov. The 2009 Tal Memorial and the Grand Slam Final at Bilbao were the most powerful tournaments (in ratings terms) ever staged. In late 2011, he easily won the 15th Unive (Crown Group) (2011) with 4.5/6 and a TPR of 2903 and finished the year with outright first at the London Chess Classic (2011) with +4 -0 =4 and a TPR of 2934, recovering ground lost following a mediocre performance in the Tal Memorial (2011) where he failed to win a game. In June 2012, he placed =4th at the category 22 Tal Memorial (2012), with 4.5/9 and in July 2012, =3rd (4th on tiebreak) at the category 19 Dortmund (2012) tournament. Kramnik finished 2012 with a surge, placing 2nd at the London Chess Classic (2012) behind Magnus Carlsen, scoring 6/8 (16 points in the 3-1-0 scoring system used in the event) and a TPR of 2937 to Carlsen's 2994.

His final training preparation for the Candidates tournament in March at the category 21 Zurich Chess Challenge (2013), was less than completely successful in terms of results (2.5/6), drawing five and losing one to Anand, although it seemed to contribute to his game fitness at the Candidates as he placed second by the narrowest of margins, scoring equal to Carlsen who won the event and the right to challenge Anand for the World Championship. He placed =4th with 4.5/9, a point behind the winner, in a low scoring Alekhine Memorial (2013) and then had one of his worse ever results at the Tal Memorial (2013), coming last with 3/9 (+0 -3 =6). However, he returned to form in the Dortmund (2013), placing outright second behind Adams, scoring 6.5/9, jointly dominating the category 19 field to the extent that no other player scored better than 50%.

Team Events

<Olympiads> Kramnik has won three team and and individual gold medals at the Olympiads as well as two team silvers. He played in the gold medal winning Russian teams in the Manila 1992, Moscow 1994 and Yerevan 1996 Olympiads, his first gold medal being awarded to him as an untitled 16 year old in 1992 when he scored eight wins, one draw, and no losses to record a remarkable TPR of 2958. In 1994, he came fifth on the second board with 8/11 and a 2727 TPR. In 1996, he scored a relatively meagre 4.5/9 on the second board. He did not participate in any more Olympiads until 37th Chess Olympiad (2006) in Turin, when he again won a gold medal with overall best performance on the top board with 6.5/9 (2847 TPR). In the Olympiad (2008) in Dresden, he scored 5/9 on top board and a 2735 TPR. Kramnik played board one for the silver medal winning Russian team in the Chess Olympiad (2010) in Khanty-Mansiysk, coming fifth with a scored of 5.5/9, winning 2 and drawing 7 with a TPR of 2794. At the Chess Olympiad (2012) held in Istanbul, he again played top board scoring 5/9 and coming 7th on that board, leading his team to another silver medal. At the Chess Olympiad (2014), he again played board 1 for Russia.

<National Team Events> In 1991, 2490-rated FM Kramnik represented Russia on board 2 at the World U26 Championship played at Maringá; with a perfect score of 6/6 he helped Russia to win gold, and won individual gold for his performance. He played in the European Team Championships on one occasion, in 1992, when the then FM was rated 2590. Again representing Russia, this time on board 3, he helped his team to win gold with a 6/7 effort, and won individual gold for board 3 as well as a gold medal for the best rating performance at the event, that being a 2863 performance, ahead of Kasparov's 2809 performance that won rating silver. That same year (1992), he also played on the USSR team against the Rest of the World. He played for Russia twice in the World Team Championship, in 1993 and 2013. On the first occasion, he lead his country to a bronze medal, and on the second occasion - at the FIDE World Team Championship (2013) - to a gold medal.

<European Club Cup> Kramnik does not appear to have played in the Russian or any other national league, his sole club representations being in the European Club Cup between 1995 and 1999 inclusive, and in 2005. He started off playing board one with SV Empor Berlin in 1992 and 1993, moved on to Sberbank-Tatarstan Kazan in 1994 where he helped the club to bronze, then played board one with the powerful Agrouniverzal Zemun team that won silver in 1999. His only participation in the ECC since then was a single season in 1995 playing for NAO Paris, which won bronze.

Matches

In 2004, he won a simul against the German National Team 2˝:1˝.

In October 2002, Kramnik played an eight game match against Deep Fritz (Computer) in the Brains in Bahrain (2002) match, drawing 4-4 after leading 3-1. In 2006 the German organization Universal Event Promotion (UEP) staged a return match of six games between Kramnik and Deep Fritz in Bonn, which Kramnik lost, +0 -2 =4.

In April 2012, Kramnik and Levon Aronian played, as part of their preparation for the 2012 Candidates Tournament, a six-game training match in Zurich. The Kramnik - Aronian (2012) match was drawn 3-3 (+1 -1 =4).

Rapids

Kramnik has been an excellent and consistent performer at rapid and blindfold play. He won or shared the overall lead at Amber in 1996 (outright overall 1st), 1998 (=1st with Shirov with 15/22), 1999 Monaco (14˝/22), 2001 (=1st with Topalov with 15/22), 2004 (=1st with Morozevich with 14.5/22), and 2007 (outright overall first with 15˝/22). He also won the 2001 rapid play match against Lékó by 7-5, drew the 2001 rapid play Botvinnik Memorial match with Kasparov 3:3 and the 2001 rapid play match against Anand 5:5, lost the 2002 Match Advanced Chess Kramnik vs. Anand (Leon) 3˝:2˝, was runner up to Anand in the Cap D'Agde FRA (2003), won the 2009 Zurich Champions Rapid (2009) with 5/7 and shared 1st in the 2010 President's Cup in Baku with 5/7.

Ratings

<Classical> In January 1996, Kramnik became the world top rated player. Although he had the same FIDE rating as Kasparov (2775), Kramnik became number one by having played more games during the rating period in question. Kramnik became the youngest ever to reach world number-one, breaking Kasparov's record; this record would stand for 14 years until being broken by Magnus Carlsen in January 2010. He is the second of only six chess players to have reached a rating of 2800 (the first being Kasparov, followed by Anand, Topalov, Carlsen and Aronian). Ironically, during his reign as world champion, Kramnik never regained the world number-one ranking, doing so only in January 2008 after he had lost the title to Viswanathan Anand. As in 1996, Kramnik had the same FIDE rating as Anand (2799) but became number-one due to more games played within the rating period. Kramnik's 12 years between world-number one rankings is the longest since the inception of the FIDE ranking system in 1971.

Currently (August 2014), he has a rating of 2760, (Russian #3, world #10);

<Rapid> 2773 (world #12); and

<Blitz> 2757 (world #13).

Other

In 1995, Kramnik served as a second for Kasparov during the latter’s successful defence of his Classical World Chess Championship against Anand, and in an ironic counter point in 2010 he served as a second for Anand during the World Champion’s successful defence against Topalov.

Kramnik has a form of arthritis called ankylosing spondylitis. In January 2006, Kramnik announced that he would miss the Corus Wijk aan Zee (2006) to seek treatment for this condition. He returned from treatment in June 2006, playing in the 37th Chess Olympiad, winning gold by top scoring on the top board. Kramnik's performance in winning the Classical World Championship in 2000 won him the Chess Oscar for 2000, while his 2006 victory in the reunification match earned him the Chess Oscar for 2006.

On 30 December 2006 he married French journalist Marie-Laure Germon and they have a daughter, Daria, who was born 28 December 2008, and a son, Vadim, born 28 January 2013.

Sources and references Website: http://www.kramnik.com/; Biography: http://www.kramnik.com/eng/biograph...; Extended and candid interview with Kramnik by Vladislav Tkachiev in August 2011: http://whychess.org/node/1605; Live rating: http://www.2700chess.com/; * http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp...; Wikipedia article: Kramnik


 page 1 of 100; games 1-25 of 2,495  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. A Oganian vs Kramnik 0-131 1984 BelorechenskB89 Sicilian
2. Kramnik vs Serdyukov 1-031 1984 BelorechenskB78 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack, 10.castle long
3. Remezov vs Kramnik  0-152 1985 KrasnodarB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
4. Zaitsev vs Kramnik 0-149 1986 Team TournamentB83 Sicilian
5. Kramnik vs Zhukov  1-038 1986 BelorechenskB43 Sicilian, Kan, 5.Nc3
6. Kramnik vs A Chumachenko 1-032 1987 GelendzhikB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
7. I Odesskij vs Kramnik 0-125 1987 URS-chT U16A52 Budapest Gambit
8. Shilov vs Kramnik 0-137 1987 USSR Boys' ChampionshipB33 Sicilian
9. Kramnik vs Otsarev 1-018 1987 Baku TrainingB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
10. Kramnik vs Mayorov 1-034 1987 GelendzhikC12 French, McCutcheon
11. Y Yakovich vs Kramnik 1-042 1988 USSRB40 Sicilian
12. Kramnik vs Danislian  ½-½60 1988 Dimitrovgrad U18B15 Caro-Kann
13. Kramnik vs I Efimov ½-½34 1989 It (open)B33 Sicilian
14. Kramnik vs Gheorghiu ½-½9 1989 Cup World (open)B56 Sicilian
15. Kramnik vs B Podlesnik 1-037 1989 Sochi (Russia)B33 Sicilian
16. Yurtaev vs Kramnik 0-174 1989 MoscowB30 Sicilian
17. Kramnik vs Y Yakovich 1-035 1989 It (open)C50 Giuoco Piano
18. J Ivanov vs Kramnik ½-½12 1989 Sochi (Russia)A85 Dutch, with c4 & Nc3
19. Sakaev vs Kramnik 1-021 1989 Ch URSA85 Dutch, with c4 & Nc3
20. L Basin vs Kramnik ½-½49 1989 It (open)A87 Dutch, Leningrad, Main Variation
21. Kramnik vs Campora  ½-½26 1989 Cup World (open)C50 Giuoco Piano
22. Kramnik vs A N Panchenko ½-½60 1989 Sochi (Russia)B58 Sicilian
23. Kramnik vs G Kuzmin ½-½42 1989 World Cup ( open )C55 Two Knights Defense
24. Kramnik vs B Taborov  ½-½35 1989 It (open)B06 Robatsch
25. A Filipenko vs Kramnik 0-140 1989 Sochi (Russia)B00 Uncommon King's Pawn Opening
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Oct-15-10  Mr. Bojangles: The man who crushed Kasparov may have won Bilbao..

But don't let us forget that he was crushed by Anand 2008.

His career record is far, far, far, far and so far inferior to Anand's.

And Kasparov's career record is 1 million times, no, 10 million times more superior to Kramnik's.

Kasparov had many things on his mind in 2000 as we all agree and know.

Oh and most of all, the man who crushed Kasparov has dirty toes.

Oct-15-10  Mr. Bojangles: What makes Kramnik's victory so impressive is the quality of his chess.

It was chess of the very highest class ... virtually error free.

Oct-15-10  shach matov: <And Kasparov's career record is 1 million times, no, 10 million times more superior to Kramnik's.> Even a prostitute like you finally understands that Kasparov's career is far superior to Kramnik's. Congratulations for waking up finally.
Oct-15-10  shach matov: <Thank you Vlad for losing the title to Anand, so that we finally have a World Champion who is not hiding and avoiding the toughest possible competition.

... and who even is bold enough to play for more than a draw with black!>

Amen>

+100

Oct-15-10  Mr. Bojangles: Has the man who retired Garry Kasparov given any celebratory interview yet?
Oct-15-10  toposcar: You are wrong.
First of all, kramnik is 35 yo so he has some 4/5 years before retiring. I wanna see kramnik's palmares when he quit chess.
Kramnik in his career has no less than 9 DORTMUND won, 3 LINARES, 1 CORUS, 2 MEM TAL, 3 gold at OLYMPICS, now this bilbao (the strongest tourney ever), impressive performances like long streaks of games without losses , 2 times world junior champion, unbeaten at olympics and so on. Kramnik's career is fantastic.
And he hasnt stopped yet.
But if you simply arithmetically sum victories, may be true that karpov, kasparov, fischer have won more but in terms of PURE PLAY, TALENT, UNDERSTANDING OF THE POSITION kramnik is far superior to all of them. Maybe he lacks of ambition, maybe his sickness has diminished his potential but many of his games are unmortal pearls. It only takes an honest point of view to admit that...
Oct-15-10  Mr. Bojangles: Almost 1 year to when Kramnik won Uber-strong Tal 2009.

Almost 10 years to when he retired Kasparov.

Oct-15-10  shach matov: <Mr. Bojangles> you seem to be very obsessed with Kasparov. Did someone who look like Kasparov rape you when you were a child? Hmmmm...nothing else would explain this obsession you have.
Oct-15-10
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  whiteshark: Statistics belong to beliers.
Oct-15-10  shach matov: <KKDEREK: Yes, but Kramnik, in order to "moralize" the chess world and cut off that mess, trowed the worst championship qualifiers ever. So instead of "moralized" the WC, he manage to escape from Anand and GK, and gave us Dortmund 2003, that gave birth of the worst championship match ever Kramnsick - Leko..Ouch! I love this guy. Well I rather be a GK "fanboy" on this one..> Let the truth be spoken.
Oct-15-10  shach matov: It is also of the greatest importance to realize that when Vlad was crushed in 2008 by Anand (Kramnik losing 3(!) games, with the final score -2), the world once again had a <World Champion who is not hiding and avoiding the toughest possible competition, and who even is bold enough to play for more than a draw with black> This is of the highest importance: A real champion was not only important in principle but most necessary for the general image of the game amongst the general public and the potential advertisers of chess events. Who wants to advertise when "the champion" is a draw master (lets not forget the nickname "Drawnik") and at the 5,6 or even 7th place in ratings. This was a monstrously disastrous situation for chess.

Anand's rightful place at the top is much healthier for chess. Lets wish him continued success!

Oct-15-10  Kaosking: kramnik retired kasparov !!!!! doesnt that put him in the top 20 best ever???? just wondering. he also won the strongest tournament ever according to rating!
Oct-15-10  shach matov: But don't forget: Anand retired Kramnik!! Only Vlad's fanatical fans think he has any chance against Anand. Vlad's dream of a rematch is dead, he will never be a champion! And he is only 35!! A rather disastrous career, and to be retired by someone who is so much older than you is even worse!
Oct-15-10  bharatiy: <shach matov> probably you did not follow just finished Bilbao tournament or you would not have said this. I was such a strong tournaments that Anand who was at 2800 could gain rating points with only one win and this tournament was won by Kramnik with not putting lot of efforts, that shows his preparation and form. He could have scalped Carlsen one more time also. If candidate are to happen today, i will bet on him more than anyone else.
Oct-15-10
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  KKDEREK: <0 Mr. Bojangles: <KKDEREK: Congratz to Kramnik..I dont see Anand winning this.>

Stick ur congrats where the sun don't shine, thank u.>

I did, ask your mom

Oct-15-10  shach matov: <bharatiy> Well Vlad had a disastrous Dortmund this year and his Olympiad performance was nothing special considering all the draws. So it's not like he plays as well as he did this Bilbao all the time. And certainly Carlen should not be underestimated since by 2012 it's very probable that he is gonna be a monster. Lets not forget Topa and Aronian also. My bet is that Carlsen will be playing Anand in 2012.
Oct-15-10  AuN1: if being equal is disastrous, then what is -1, catastrophic? carlsen would know.
Oct-15-10  Atking: Congratulations to Kramnik ! He displayed very well at Bilbao. He show here he could be the best in the world. I hope he will keep his actual form (Obviously up to 2800). But for Kramnik it seems the most diffcult thing is to keep the motivation. He has not the domination spirit that had Kasparov or Karpov. By the way I was pleased by the friendly attitude Anand and Kramnik haved at Bilbao.
Oct-15-10
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  keypusher: <A rather disastrous career,>

<schach matov>

Evidently the wounds of 2006 remain unhealed.

Oct-15-10  Kaosking: to <shach matov> i also put anand in the top 20 .......for some reason i dont think carlsen will fair well in a match either against kramnik or anand. Their play in general tends to be very strategic and calculated to the very end. Carlsen tends to go astray at times in his complications! Correct me if i am wrong !
Oct-15-10  Augalv: <Thank you Vlad for insisting that GKK had to go though proper Qualification Events (as both of you had pledged). That stopped the slide of the World Championship institution back to pre-WW2 conditions where the Champion selects his Challenger.

Thank you Vlad for not walking out of your World Championship Match with Topalov, even after such unsubstantiated accusations designed to unfairly rattle you, and even after you had defaulted a game to express your righteous protest. Your action eventually facilitated the return of the World Championship Cycle and stabilized it.

Thank you Vlad for humbling yourself into participating in a World Championship Tournament, the only time in chess history where a living Title holder agreed to do so. Your action facilitated the return of the World Championship Cycle and stabilized it.>

<visayanbraindoctor> +1

Oct-15-10  shach matov: I think Carlsen in purely chess terms is the only real threat to Anand. However, he is too young at this point, needs to acquire more experience in life and grow as a human being. A 19 year old, however brilliant at chess, is still not emotionally ready to face a veteran of match play like Anand. By 2012 I think he will be ready for his first real test, especially if he continues work with GK, who will help not just chess wise but also in terms of providing the required psychological preparation.
Oct-15-10
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  Bobwhoosta: <shach matov>

You ignore the evidence and place your opinion above the facts. This is shown by your repeated reference to one match that Kramnik played.

Now, Kramnik is not my favorite player (Carlsen is, followed by Anand). However, if you are to say that he is not a real threat to Anand, you're simply delusional. Anand did not beat Kramnik in this tournament, and also did not score as many points as him. And in a match, either one could win. This is true if it were played today, tomorrow, or for the next several years I'd reckon.

Now, for your opinion (you don't like Kramnik much). For most of my chess life (and especially after the Kasparov match) I have not liked his style. However, lately I have found a deeper respect for how he plays, and how accurately he refutes the smallest inaccuracy by his opponent. He is a master of over the board torture. So, you may have your opinion, but the fact is he forms with Carlsen and Anand (Topalov too, although I think he doesn't fair as well against the other three) a small group of the most elite chess players in the world today.

Oct-15-10
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  visayanbraindoctor: <Augalv> +1 (",)

<Atking: But for Kramnik it seems the most diffcult thing is to keep the motivation.>

Yes <Atking>. Same is true for Anand. Anand and Kramnik are two of the most talented ever chess masters produced by humanity, but it's not only talent that wins chess competitions. I always get the impression that they lack a bit of motivation.

Kasparov, Karpov, and Fischer never did seem to have problems with motivation. Among the younger talented GMs, Carlsen also looks tops in this department.

What many kibitzers automatically assume is that Carlsen will sweep the chess world ala Kasparov because he is intrinsically better than the rest - in other words has more native chess talent. That may be mostly true, but not for Anand and Kramnik. Just an opinion but I think Anand and Kramnik have just as much chess talent as Carlsen, and possible more, although they are more laid-back and not as driven. That naturally implies that if these World Champions do get motivated, Carlsen is going to have difficulties in beating them.

If no one among the younger generation shows up with as much chess talent as Carlsen, then he will probably eventually win the Title after the Anand-Kramnik era. That's one reason why I would like to see games where Calsen gets to play someone younger than him; it would give us an idea of what to expect in the future.

Oct-15-10
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  Bobwhoosta: <visayanbraindoctor>

I had never thought of his career in quite that way before.

+2

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