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Gunsberg 
From Hans von Minckwitz's column in Illustrirte Zeitung, 1890.
Photograph courtesy of Wikimedia Commons.
 
Isidor Gunsberg
Number of games in database: 397
Years covered: 1879 to 1914
Overall record: +144 -145 =105 (49.9%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      3 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (29) 
    C77 C65 C67 C78 C79
 Queen's Pawn Game (23) 
    D00 D05 D02 D04 A40
 Giuoco Piano (23) 
    C50 C53
 French Defense (23) 
    C01 C13 C11 C14 C10
 King's Gambit Accepted (18) 
    C39 C35 C34 C33 C38
 French (13) 
    C13 C11 C10 C00 C12
With the Black pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (44) 
    C67 C65 C83 C77 C80
 French Defense (19) 
    C11 C10 C01 C02 C00
 Queen's Pawn Game (17) 
    D00 D05 A46 A40 D04
 King's Gambit Accepted (17) 
    C33 C39 C38 C37
 French (12) 
    C11 C10 C00 C13 C12
 Queen's Gambit Declined (10) 
    D31 D06 D30 D35
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Gunsberg vs Steinitz, 1891 1-0
   W Paulsen vs Gunsberg, 1883 0-1
   Gunsberg vs NN, 1879 1-0
   Gunsberg vs Steinitz, 1891 1-0
   Chigorin vs Gunsberg, 1889 0-1
   Steinitz vs Gunsberg, 1890 1/2-1/2
   Gunsberg vs Chigorin, 1890 1-0
   Gunsberg vs NN, 1907 1-0
   Steinitz vs Gunsberg, 1890 0-1
   Gunsberg vs Von Gottschall, 1887 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   Steinitz - Gunsberg World Championship Match (1890)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Hamburg (1885)
   Chigorin-Gunsberg Match (1890)
   Blackburne - Gunsberg (1887)
   London (1900)
   London (Vizayanagaram) (1883)
   Amsterdam (1889)
   Monte Carlo (1901)
   Breslau (1889)
   Monte Carlo (1902)
   Hastings (1895)
   13th DSB Kongress (Hanover) (1902)
   Nuremberg (1883)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   New York 1889 by suenteus po 147
   Challengers Zukertort & Gunsberg by Imohthep
   Chigorin-Gunsberg Match by keypusher
   Chigorin-Gunsberg Match by Chessical
   Monte Carlo 1901 by suenteus po 147
   Manchester 1890 by rookhouse
   Blackburne-Gunsberg Match, Bradford-London 1887. by Chessical
   City Club Invitational (London, 1900) by Phony Benoni

GAMES ANNOTATED BY GUNSBERG: [what is this?]
   Lasker vs Steinitz, 1895
   Von Bardeleben vs Lasker, 1895
   Tarrasch vs Bird, 1895
   Burn vs Janowski, 1895
   Steinitz vs Burn, 1895
   >> 7 GAMES ANNOTATED BY GUNSBERG

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ISIDOR GUNSBERG
(born Nov-02-1854, died May-02-1930, 75 years old) Hungary (federation/nationality United Kingdom)
PRONUNCIATION:
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Isidor Arthur Gunsberg was born in Budapest. He began his chess career as the hidden operator of the chess automaton Mephisto (Automaton). In 1876 he moved to Britain, and was later granted citizenship.

Gunsberg's success in match play leaves no doubt that he was one of the strongest competitors of his era: he defeated Henry Edward Bird (+5 -1 =3), Joseph Henry Blackburne (+5 -2 =6), and drew with Mikhail Chigorin (+9 -9 =5). In 1890, he challenged Wilhelm Steinitz for the world championship, but lost (+4 -6 =9), see Steinitz - Gunsberg World Championship Match (1890).

Gunsberg's career reached its peak at the end of the 1880s, with impressive results in Game Collection: New York 1889 and Manchester (1890) (second behind Tarrasch).

According to Chessmetrics, he was 2-5th in the world 1886-90. 1; whilst EDO Chess estimates Gunsberg to have been 2nd-7th for the same period. 2

At New York, Gunsberg came third. He beat Chigorin 2-0, but lost to Weiss by 0.5 to 1.5. Gunsberg then seized an unexpected and sudden opportunity. With the joint tournament winners Chigorin and Weiss declining to play a match to select a challenger to world champion Steinitz, Gunsberg challenged Chigorin. At the time of the match Gunsberg was 35 years old, four years younger than his opponent.

Gunsberg had struggled for his place in the limelight. He had never been seen as the preeminent British player and was usually eclipsed by Joseph Henry Blackburne .Gunsberg had emerged in the third German Chess Congress 1883. Gunsberg was 17th with 5/18 whereas Blackburne won with 13.5/18. At the fourth German Chess Congress, Hamburg July 13th - 25th 1885, Blackburne again won on a tie break followed by James Mason. Gunsberg improved his standing to 5th, half a point behind the winner.

At Hereford, August 4th – 12th, 1885, Blackburn won and Gunsberg was fifth equal, whilst at the Second BCF championship London 1886, July 12th – 29th, he was third equal with Taubenhaus behind Blackburne and Burn.

At the fifth German Chess Congress, Frankfurt July 17th - August 2nd, 1887, Blackburne was fourth and Gunsberg was far back in 14-16th place. He scored only two points against the top ten players.

The Third BCF Congress London 1887, November 29th - December 12th, improved his status. Gunsberg was first equal with Burn ahead of Blackburne by 1 1/2 points; and at the Fourth BCF championship in Bradford, August 6th – 18th 1888, Gunsberg won, 1 1/2 points ahead of all his important British rivals including: George Henry Mackenzie, Mason, Amos Burn , Blackburne and Henry Edward Bird.

In 1887, Blackburne - Gunsberg (1887), Gunsberg defeated Blackburne in a match , played in Bradford and London, 26th September – 9th November 1887 scoring +5 -2 =6.

Having tied for first in 1887 and won the title outright in 1888, and at least temporarily drawn ahead of his most obvious rival, his victory in this match gave him the status as a credible challenger to Steinitz for the world championship.

"The difference in style between the two players has been very well brought out in the present match. Gunsberg is impetuous and Blackburne is careful, but both have a wonderful power of combination, and are capable, of very brilliant strokes." 3

Gunsberg's problem was that he was not consistent. At Breslau (1889) , 15th – 26th July 1889, he was equal fourth, but Tarrasch eclipsed all the other participants with a magnificent +9. At Amsterdam (1889) , 26th August – 1st September 1889, he came only half-way up the field (+2 -2 =4).

“There is a pretty firm conviction at the clubs that that Gunsberg, especially since the death of Zukertort, is the strongest and hardiest of the professional masters of the game, and that in his present condition he can be more trusted than anyone else to play up to his best form over a fortnight's course….It will soon be time, by the way, to demand a match between Gunsberg and Steinitz -the old Achilles who sulks on his reputation in America. Mr Steinitz is giving us time enough in England to forget his prowess, and people already say that his victory over Zukertort, when the decline of the doctor's powers had manifestly set in, was not of sufficient importance to provide him with laurels for the remainder of his life. No doubt, this is said partly by way of defiance, and in course of time it is pretty certain that the champion will have to descend into the lists again, and try conclusions with Mr Gunsberg.” 4

Steinitz, however, saw Chigorin as his most credible challenger and chose to defend his world championship title against him in Havana (20th January 1889 - 24th February, 1889). Steinitz defeated his Russian challenger by 10-6, in the Steinitz - Chigorin World Championship Match (1889).

Gunsberg, however, by coming third at the Game Collection: New York 1889 , was given an unexpected opportunity. The co-winners of the tournament, having tied a short match intended to decide a single winner, preferred not to challenge Steinitz. The rules then allowed Gunsberg as the third player to challenge Chigorin for a match which would effectively be a Candidates Final. See Game Collection: Chigorin-Gunsberg Match.

By tying this match, Gunsberg felt he could challenge for the world championship. He went on to give a good account of himself in the Steinitz - Gunsberg World Championship Match (1890) by 8.5 to 10.5.

Notes

1 http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/...

2 http://www.edochess.ca/players/p417...

3 Morning Post - Monday 10th October 1887, p. 2.

4 Bristol Mercury - Tuesday 21st August 1888, p.8.

Wikipedia article: Isidor Gunsberg

Last updated: 2016-08-20 21:52:49

 page 1 of 16; games 1-25 of 397  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Gunsberg vs NN 1-020 1879 LondonC35 King's Gambit Accepted, Cunningham
2. Gunsberg vs G Mclennan 0-116 1879 LondonC38 King's Gambit Accepted
3. Gunsberg vs J Ascher 1-019 1879 LondonC30 King's Gambit Declined
4. Blackburne vs Gunsberg  1-056 1881 London m2C11 French
5. Gunsberg vs Blackburne  0-135 1881 London m2B45 Sicilian, Taimanov
6. Blackburne vs Gunsberg 1-058 1881 London m2C45 Scotch Game
7. Gunsberg vs Blackburne 0-113 1881 London m2B45 Sicilian, Taimanov
8. J Mason vs Gunsberg 1-040 1883 NurembergA40 Queen's Pawn Game
9. V Hruby vs Gunsberg 1-038 1883 NurembergD55 Queen's Gambit Declined
10. G MacDonnell vs Gunsberg 1-066 1883 London (Vizayanagaram)C37 King's Gambit Accepted
11. Paulsen vs Gunsberg 1-061 1883 NurembergC02 French, Advance
12. J Schwarz vs Gunsberg  ½-½39 1883 NurembergC49 Four Knights
13. F S Ensor vs Gunsberg  0-130 1883 London (Vizayanagaram)C44 King's Pawn Game
14. J S West vs Gunsberg 0-136 1883 London (Vizayanagaram)C49 Four Knights
15. K Leffmann vs Gunsberg  0-139 1883 NurembergC83 Ruy Lopez, Open
16. Gunsberg vs A Schottlaender 0-123 1883 NurembergC13 French
17. Gunsberg vs T H Piper  1-033 1883 London (Vizayanagaram)D05 Queen's Pawn Game
18. Gunsberg vs E Schallopp 0-152 1883 NurembergC48 Four Knights
19. Gunsberg vs J N Berger 0-163 1883 NurembergD30 Queen's Gambit Declined
20. Gunsberg vs Bird ½-½50 1883 NurembergB34 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto
21. C E Ranken vs Gunsberg  ½-½55 1883 London (Vizayanagaram)C49 Four Knights
22. A Fritz vs Gunsberg 0-150 1883 NurembergC67 Ruy Lopez
23. Gunsberg vs Max Weiss 0-130 1883 NurembergB12 Caro-Kann Defense
24. Gunsberg vs F Hunter  1-027 1883 London (Vizayanagaram)A84 Dutch
25. E Thorold vs Gunsberg  0-126 1883 ?C39 King's Gambit Accepted
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Jul-15-12  Karpova: A bit of information on the gigantic Ostende 1906 tournament which Isidor Gunsberg organized.

All of this comes from the (Neue) Wiener Schachzeitung, June 1906 (and supplementary material. The final standings from Uncrowned King)

36 players started and during five stages, the winner was determined.

It began with 4 groups (A, B, C and D) with A facing B and C facing D.

Group A: Von Balla, Bernstein, Blackburne, Burn, Duras, Gattie, Janowski, Leonhardt and Oskam (he replaced Sherrard who deceased prior to tournament begin).

Group B: Cohn, Fahrni, Forgacs, John, Johner, Marco, Maroczy, Rubinstein and Saburov (replacing Von Bardeleben).

Group C: Dr. Lewitt, Maljutin, Marshall, Mieses, Dr. Perlis, Post, Spielmann, Suechting and Teichmann (replacing Caro).

Group D: Reggio, Salwe, Schlechter, Znosko-Borowski, Sournin, Swiderski, Taubenhaus, Chigorin and Wolf.

They play 9 rounds first and then the last three players of every group are eliminated.

Then Group A faces C and B faces D. Another 6 rounds are played and the last 2 players of every group are eliminated.

This is followed by A facing D and B facing C and takes 4 days. Afterwards, every group plays a tournament of its own which lasts 3 days.

Now, 16 players are left and the 7 lowest placed ones are eliminated with the rest playing for the prize money (4000, 2500, 1500, 1000, 800, 700, 600, 500 and 450 Francs). Consolation prizes are 800 Francs for the 12 competitors eliminated after 9 days, 1400 Francs for the 8 players eliminated after 9+6 days, and finally 3000 Francs for the 10 players surviving 9+6+7 days.

Preliminary results after 5 rounds (i think that '+H' refers to an adjourned game):

Group A:
Janowski 4.5
Burn 4.0
Leonhardt 4.0
Bernstein 3.5
Von Balla 3.0
Duras 3.0
Blackburne 2.0+H
Oskam 1.5
Gattie 0.0

Group B:
Fahrni 3.0
Johner 3.0
Maroczy 3.0
John 2.5
Marco 2.5
Rubinstein 2.0+H
Forgacs 1.5
Cohn 1.0
Saburov 0.0

Group C:
Marshall 4.0
Dr. Perlis 4.0
Mieses 3.5
Spielmann 3.5
Suechting 3.5
Teichmann 3.0
Dr. Lewitt 2.0
Maljutin 2.0
Post 2.0

Group D:
Znosko-Borowski 3.5
Schlechter 3.0
Wolf 3.0
Salwe 2.5
Swiderski 2.0
Taubenhaus 2.0
Sournin 1.5
Reggio 0.5
Chigorin 0.5

Standings after the first stage (9 rounds):

Group A:
Janowski 7.0
Burn 7.0
Leonhardt 6.0
Bernstein 5.5
Blackburne 5.5
Von Balla 5.0
Duras 5.0
Oskam 2.0
Gattie 1.0

Overall: 44.0 points

Group B:
Johner 6.0
Maroczy 6.0
Fahrni 5.5
Rubinstein 5.5
John 4.5
Marco 3.5
Forgacs 3.0
Cohn 3.0
Saburov 0.0

Overall: 37.0 points

Group C:
Dr. Perlis 6.5
Marshall 6.0
Teichmann 6.0
Mieses 5.5
Suechting 5.0
Spielmann 4.5
Post 4.0
Dr. Lewitt 3.0
Maljutin 3.0

Overall: 43.5 points

Group D:
Znosko-Borowski 6.0
Schlechter 6.0
Salwe 5.5
Swiderski 4.5
Chigorin 4.0
Wolf 3.5
Taubenhaus 3.5
Sournin 2.5
Reggio 2.0

Overall: 37.5 points

Janowski's performance is being hailed but it is also mentioned that he had losing positions in five of his games. Burn is also praised (especially his games against Forgacs and Johner and the save against Maroczy). Notable is also Chigorin's comeback after a disastrous start.

Eliminated were Von Balla (despite scoring 5.0 points!), Oskam, Gattie, Cohn, Forgacs, Saburov, Post, Dr. Lewitt, Maljutin, Sournin and Reggio.

Jul-15-12  Karpova: The 2nd stage (always the accumulated scores of all rounds played up to that point of time):

Group A:
Burn 10.5
Leonhardt: 10.0
Janowski 9.5
Bernstein 9.0
Blackburne 9.0
Duras 8.0

Group B:
Maroczy 10.0
Rubinstein 9.5
Johner 8.0
Fahrni 7.0
John 7.0
Marco 5.5

Group C
Marshall 10.0
Teichmann 9.0
Dr. Perlis 8.5
Mieses 8.0
Spielmann 8.0
Suechting 6.0

Group D:
Schlechter 10.5
Salwe 9.5
Znosko-Borowski 9.0
Swiderski 7.5
Chigorin 6.5
Wolf 6.5

Eliminated were: Blackburne (despite accumulating 9.0 points!), Duras, John, Marco, Suechting, Chigorin and Wolf. Spielmann would have been eliminated but Mieses left due to health issues.

After the 3rd stage (actually, 3rd stage (i. e. A vs D and B vs C) and the 4th stage (i. e. members of the same group playing each other) have been taken together - that's why it looks like a 4-stage tournament here though it was a 5-stage tournament):

Group A:
Bernstein 14.5
Burn 14.0
Janowski 13.0
Leonhardt 11.5

Group B:
Maroczy 15.5
Rubinstein 14.0
Fahrni 10.5
Johner 9.0

Group C:
Marshall 13.0
Teichmann 13.0
Dr. Perlis 12.5
Spielmann 10.5

Group D:
Schlechter 15.0
Znosko-Borowski 12.0
Swiderski 12.0
Salwe 11.5

The final Standings were:
1. Schlechter 21.0
2. Maroczy 20.0
3. Rubinstein 19.0
4-6. Bernstein 18.0
4-6. Burn 18.0
4-6. Teichmann 18.0
7. Marshall 16.5
8. Janowski 16.0
9. Dr. Perlis 14.0

Dec-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  thomastonk: Who is afraid of Captain Hawksworth?!

[Event "Unknown"]
[Site "Purssell's Rooms, Cornhill"]
[Date "1881.02.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Captain Hawksworth"]
[Black "Gunsberg"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C52"]
[PlyCount "39"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. O-O Nf6 7. d4 O-O 8. Nxe5 Nxe4 9. Nxf7 Rxf7 10. Bxf7+ Kxf7 11. d5 Ne7 12. Qa4 Bxc3 13. Nxc3 Nxc3 14. Qc4 Ncxd5 15. Bg5 c6 16. Rfe1 Kf8 17. Rxe7 Nxe7 18. Re1 d5 19. Qh4 Ng6 20. Qb4+ 1-0

Source: CPC 1881, p 111. According to the comments, both players followed at least until 15. Bg5 an analysis of James Mason from the Dubuque Chess Journal and the New York Spirit, 1873-74. Moreover, 15.. Kg6 is suggested in the CPC with some advantage.

I think, 16.. Kf8 is a serious error, but 17.Bxe7+ would have been the right way to secure the advantage. The final is weird. The position after 18.. d5 is about equal, and 19.Qf4+, 19.Qc5, 19.Qb4 and 19.Qc3 look all fine. But after the text 19.Qh4? Black has a nice response (mentioned already in the CPC): 19.. Nf5! :


click for larger view

The difference compared to 19.. Ng6? is the control of d6 in the line 20.Qb4+ Qd6.

Jun-30-13
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  Phony Benoni: <"Mr. Gunsberg's play throughout, though not without flaws, has been marked by that coolness and patience so characteristic of his style.

"At all times he is a dangerous opponent, but never more so than when his game seems to have gotten into some little confusion. Then he will sit with half-closed eyes and a dreamy, far-away look in his face, as if thinking of anything rather than the game before him, and with just the ghost of a smile flitting across his lips.

"Then he will make some move which, to the bystander, seems to be half mechanical, barely touching, it may be a pawn which he pushes up a square; or his hand slightly laid upon his queen, as he moves her majesty with an almost imperceptible motion a little to the right or the left.

"But then let his opponent beware! From beneath these drooping eyelids a lightning glance has shot forth that has pieced the game through and through, and the dreamy-looking face is but the mask that conceals intense concentration of thought. That little pawn's advance or that queen's move is the beginning of mischief and the harbinger of woe.">

-- W. N. Potter, "Land and Water" quoted in the "Baltimore American", July 26, 1885. Gunsberg had just won the British Chess Association Congress.

http://www.chessarch.com/excavation...

Nov-02-13  Kikoman: <Player of the Day>

Rest In Peace Sir Isidor Gunsberg.

Nov-02-13  Llawdogg: The beginning of mischief and the harbinger of woe!
Nov-02-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: R.I.P. <POTD>: World championship challenger Isidor Gunsberg.
Dec-29-13
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  Penguincw: ♔ Quote of the Day ♔

< "Schlechter also showed us the generous side of his nature by declining to compete for any of the brilliancy prizes, for which he undoubtedly would have had the best chance. 'I have won enough', he said. 'Let others get something too.'" >

-Gunsberg

I guess that's why they call Schlechter "the draw master".

Feb-10-15  poorthylacine: TO KNIGNT 13:

I agree absolutely about Gunsberg, only about Blackburne, we must consider that this guy played very good games from 1862 until 1914!!!!!!

May-08-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: Here is a beautiful game by Gunsberg, where he just destroyed Mackenzie in the opening:

<

[Event "Bradford (1888)"]
[Site "Bradford ENG"]
[Date "1888.08.??"]
[Round "12"]
[White "Gunsberg, Isidor"]
[Black "Mackenzie, George Henry"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C50"]
[EventDate "1888.08.06"]
[Source "TB G-34 p52/59"]
[PlyCount "49"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.d3 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Bg5 Be6 7.Nd5 Bxd5 8. Bxd5 Ne7 9.Bb3 c6 10.Qe2 Qd7 11.O-O-O Bb6 12.d4 Qc7 13.dxe5 dxe5 14. Bxf6 gxf6 15.Nh4 Ng6 16.Nf5 Bc5 17.Nh6 Rf8 18.Qf3 Be7 19.Qh5 Bc5 20. Ng4 Qe7 21.Qf5 Bd4 22.Nxf6+ Kd8 23.c3 c5 24.cxd4 cxd4 25.Kb1 1-0

>

Aug-18-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: The above is one reason why the Source tag might be better with the nominal PGN limit of 255 characters.

I got the game from Harding, who got it from Barza, who got it from Schwarz's original.

Aug-18-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: This game is full of inaccuracies, but one might excuse a few of them, since Gunsberg was but 12:

<

[Event "causal (?)"]
[Site "Pest HUN"]
[Date "1867.12.??"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Gunsberg, Isidor"]
[Black "Beer, Henrik"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C31"]
[EventDate "1867.12.??"]
[Source "Harding - EVCP p281 / Hungarian Chess History (Barcza) / Magyarorzág és a nagyvilág (Schwarz) 1867-12-28"]

1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5 e4 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Bc4 Bc5 6.d4 Bb4 7.Bd2 e3 8. Bxe3 Bxc3+ 9.bxc3 Nxd5 10.Bxd5 Qxd5 11.Ne2 O-O 12.O-O Re8 13.Qd2 Bf5 14.Bf2 Be4 15.c4 Qxc4 16.Nc3 Nc6 17.d5 Nb4 18.a3 Nxc2 19.Rac1 Nxa3 20.Qb2 Nc2 21.Rxc2 Bxc2 22.Qxc2 b5 23.Qd2 b4 24.Nd1 Rad8 25.Bxa7 Rxd5 26.Qf2 Re2 27.Qf3 Rd8 28.Ne3 Qa2 29.h3 h6 30.Kh2 Rdd2 31.Qa8+ Kh7 32. Qe4+ g6 33.Bd4 Qc4 34.f5 Qxd4 35.fxg6+ 1-0

>

Aug-18-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: The above is one reason why the Source tag might be better with the nominal PGN limit of 255 characters.

I got the game from Harding, who got it from Barcza, who got it from Schwarz's original.

Takes a little bit more space than allotted to tell the story.

Aug-18-16  Retireborn: <z> "The kid's a genius!" "Quick, stick him in Mephisto" LOL

Does Harding's book annotate any of Gunsberg's games? I only have 27 of his games, most of them losses.

Aug-18-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: <RB>, yes, Harding does indeed annotate several (many?) of the games.

You can check out some of them here:

https://books.google.com/books?id=Q...

How many, I'm not sure, as it's just a preview. But I find even a limited preview is quite enriching when it comes to anything written by Harding.

Aug-18-16
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  zanzibar: Oh, and just to be clear - Harding devotes an entire chapter to Gunsberg.
Aug-18-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: I don't have access, but does anybody have the assessment of Alekhine on Gunsberg's play?

It on Harding's EVCP - p313, quoting Alekhine's <La Nación (ar?)> 1930-08-10 obituary of Gunsberg.

(Not sure why the obituary only showed up in August, given Gunsberg's death in May.)

Aug-19-16  Paarhufer: Harding's quotes are taken from Edward Winter's translation of Alekhine's tribute to Gunsberg, see "Kings, Commoners and Knaves" (1999), p 212-213.
Aug-19-16
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  zanzibar: Thanks <Paarhufer>, I saw that too, but my library doesn't have that one.

I was hoping to find an online source for it.

Aug-19-16  Paarhufer: <zanzibar: but my library doesn't have that one.> How awful! And you are really interested in chess history? ;)

Please, when you ask for help, describe clearly what you have and what you want to have. I could have saved the time scrolling both books and the C.N.s in NIC magazine 1999, too.

Winter's translation is still a couple of decades copyrighted, so maybe you should ask him for help.

Aug-19-16  Retireborn: <z> Winter doesn't quote the whole of the La Nacion piece, but the gist of what he does put in <KC&N> is that Gunsberg was not a genius and lacked originality, but he was clever at understanding the weaknesses of Chigorin & Steinitz and adapting to them; and that Gunsberg was to be praised for his efforts to "disseminate chess".
Aug-19-16  Retireborn: Alekhine's views, not Winter's, I should have made clear.
Aug-19-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: Thanks <Retireborn>, as always.

Makes me wonder a bit about how Alekhine ranked past masters as well as his contemporaries. E.g. who did he consider a genius? Or an original?

Aug-19-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  zanzibar: <Paarhufer> First, consider the original request:

<I don't have access, but does anybody have the assessment of Alekhine on Gunsberg's play?

It on Harding's EVCP - p313, quoting Alekhine's <La Nación (ar?)> 1930-08-10 obituary of Gunsberg.>

It's clear I'm hoping to get Alekhine's assessment, and that I don't have access to it.

I perhaps should have mentioned that I knew Winter had it as well, though that wouldn't help me much, given that I didn't have access to that either.

Clearly, I'm hoping someone is kind enough to provide the assessment - either via a link, or by actually typing it in for me (which is a bit of a favor - so thx again <retireborn>).

In an ideal world, someone would have a link to the original <La Nación> article. Primary sources are always my preference.

The copyright issues deserve a post of their own, as perhaps does the question about my interest in chess history!

Aug-20-16
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  zanzibar: https://zanchess.wordpress.com/2016...

His obituary from the NY Sun 1930-05-23 p37.

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