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| Sep-17-06 |
| syracrophy: <twinlark> Yes, I know what game you're referring to. <<Carlos Torre-Edwin Adams, 1920>> that is posted in E Z Adams vs Carlos Torre, 1920 in my earlier post, and I have already updated that game, that is still unavailable, but I'm just waiting for it to appear in the server. It was an amazing victory of Torre against his master |
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| Oct-07-06 |
| Plato: Adams had White that famous game, not Torre ... but it is very likely that the game was a forgery. See the notes on the E Z Adams vs Carlos Torre, 1920 page It's ashame that Torre had a breakdown at such a young age, he was only 21 at the time of his last major chess tournament ... one wonders how far he could have gone if the circumstances of his life were not so tragic. |
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| Oct-11-06 |
| syracrophy: <Plato> Yes, you're right. By the way, you should read <The Life and Games of Carlos Torre>, by Gabriel Velasco. There is everything about him. Games, biography, notes, everything. It's just sad that he retired at his only 21 years (!), he was just starting his career. He has been the best mexican chess player of the history. No one as him. |
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| Oct-14-06 |
| Plato: <syracrophy> Thank you for the book recommendation. I will definitely purchase it. |
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| Oct-15-06 |
| syracrophy: <Plato> You're welcome. Believe me: it really worths its cost. I bought it in the Mexican National Open, 2005. When I saw it, I immediately bought it, because I was really curious to see more games of Carlos Torre, as I only knew the games Carlos Torre vs Lasker, 1925, E Z Adams vs Carlos Torre, 1920 and Carlos Torre vs M Schapiro, 1924(the basic games that appear on a lot of books), before reading the book. Now that I've read it, I have seen more of him than I did before. Now I feel connected with a true genius |
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| Oct-15-06 |
| Plato: <syarcrophy> I see that you're a fan of chess compositions ... I have a recommendation for *you*, though you may already be familiar with his work. Have you seen the compositions of Mark Liburkin (also spelled Libiurkin)? He was absolutely brilliant. As an example, you'll find one of the most beautiful compositions of all time on the following website: http://hometown.aol.com/brigosling/...
Check out position 284 on that page (underneath <Mark Liburkin, 1910-1953>). Like Torre Repetto, his chess career was cut short ... in his case because of a tragic, premature death at 43. |
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| Oct-18-06 |
| syracrophy: <Plato> Thanks for the link! Here are two puzzles of him that I really like:
click for larger viewWhite to play and draw
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click for larger viewWhite to play and draw |
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| Oct-18-06 |
| Plato: <sycrophy> Indeed, those are two extremely beautiful puzzles. I think Liburkin deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as the greatest composers like Loyd and Troitzky, but perhaps that is going too far. In any case, for some reason he hasn't received the attention he deserves. |
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| Oct-18-06 |
| syracrophy: <Plato> You got it. It happens the same with chess players. For example, Carlos Torre doesn't receives the attention he really deserves. And I, as a mexican, must say that even his own country has forgotten about him. That's really shameful |
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| Nov-08-06 |
| ismet: He is like comedy actor ! interesting like character knows chess well. |
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Dec-21-06
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| Phony Benoni: Here's a strange little site I ran across today. I cannot vouch for its accuracy one way or the other. http://snow.prohosting.com/~batgrrl... |
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| Dec-21-06 |
| SBC: <Phony Benoni>
I better edited version of that strange little page can be found here http://batgirl.atspace.com/torre.html |
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Dec-21-06
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| Phony Benoni: <SBC> Sorry. I need to watch my choice of words. I certainly had never heard that explanation of his withdrawal from chess before. |
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| Dec-21-06 |
| SBC: <Phony Benoni>
I don't mind "strange". It's a lot better than other things my writing's been called. Torre seemed to have been affected in a way very similar to Morphy - that is, in being a victim of his own success. All either wanted to do was to play chess, but hero-worship and publicity forced them to withdraw. |
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Dec-22-06
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| Phony Benoni: <SBC> That's an interesting comparison. Do you think Fischer might be another example? |
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| Dec-31-06 |
| Nikita Smirnov: I have heard that torre means castle/fortress or rook in spanish! |
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| Jan-10-07 |
| madlydeeply: that photo is from the film "chess fever". I have not seen this film. |
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| Jan-10-07 |
| madlydeeply: I found Chess Fever:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d... |
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| Jan-18-07 |
| garcia.markina: "Torre" means "Tower" in spanish. In chess, a "Torre" is a rook/castle, Nikita Smirnov. |
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| Jan-27-07 |
| Nikita Smirnov: Thank you! |
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| Jan-27-07 |
| Kean: Mexico's chess greatest hero. I read somewhere, that in spite he refused to play, Torre once faced Miguel Najdorf in a simul the later was giving at Mexico; not directly but 'advising' the friend who was at the board. Don't remember when that happened and if Najdorf was yet an elite strong master. Suddenly Najdorf started to stop more and more at that board, trying to think carefully his next move, maybe he realized he was facing something different, something strong enough to him. Later in the game he discovered that Torre was behind the moves of his opponent, and I think a draw was agreed. Don't know, but I like to think about a mature Torre, somehow shy, and far away of the chess affairs since years ago, and still being able to face other masters. Talent is talent I think. |
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| Feb-05-07 |
| IMDONE4: <Torre was the first Mexican to ever achieve this title.>
Heh... That almost sounds deragatory |
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| Feb-07-07 |
| Supergrandmaster: IMDONE4: it is not derogatory in that he was given the title far too late. His games were realized in the '20s, and the title should have gone to him then, instead of later. His Torre Attack is even an original idea now used by major grandmasters! |
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Nov-23-07
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| juan31: "Our skill development does not depend on being experts at openings and being precise at endings, because there is no development without harmony... we should focus primarily in playing all stages of the game equally well, that is, play chess..." "The strength that is accumulated should result in progress, and as a consequence, our continuous and growing effort will help improve our ability in advanced reason." Citas de : Carlos Torre Repetto |
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| Feb-11-08 |
| MartinChuzzlewit: < madlydeeply: that photo is from the film "chess fever". I have not seen this film.> I have a case of chess fever, and the only thing that will cure me is more cow bell. |
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