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|Mar-11-12|| ||epistle: kung hindi pa kami nagkasama, ni <pulsar> last friday, hindi ko pa malalaman na may <ganito palang isyu> na pinag pipiyestahan.....|
ha ha ha ha....talaga si sir <JAO> magaling sa mga kwento....
|Mar-11-12|| ||KKDEREK: <voratco> Hey, I just said I agree..Nothing more..This is a public forum, you stated something which I agree..Simple.|
|Mar-11-12|| ||pulsar: <Matebay>, I relay <nanobrain>'s message for you: "Pls tell my counsel Atty. Matebay that he's doing very well and I appreciate his efforts. However, I think that he should leave the argument based on the Due Process clause and shift to the clear violation of my constitutional right to equal protection of the laws. Moreover, the new rule that an immediate ban or suspension can be done without warning/hearing is an ex post facto law and therefor likewise suffer from constitutional infirmity."|
|Mar-11-12|| ||Iskubadayb: There's a bigger issue here and it's not technical. If they ban me right now, I'll pop up a minute later as someone else. :)|
|Mar-11-12|| ||hatsis: hehehe, kunsyaderd, if they knocked me down, I'll be standing in my head, or likewise, I'll be coming in sideways. Sex change is also an option. I can also alter into a fish or just a Stasi in the background.|
Oh well, that's the lives of others.....there is no right, there is no freedom, talk about who owns you!!! Watch that movie and you will learn a lot from it, top 50 on the all time list. KKderek, No spoiler please, okey?
|Mar-12-12|| ||matebay: Mar-11-12
I brought your case to the attention of CG and below please find CG's position on the matter. What do you think? As your pro bono lawyer, I recommend you send them an email as advised. If you go over their points, they seem valid...no great travesty of justice done.
First of all, if you think you are going to play out a court trial on our support forum with you pretending to be a bannister and Daniel playing the judge, you are mistaken.
Second, <hatsis> was incorrect when he wrote <CG knows who the subject is. ...Pretending we don't know who the guy who was banned is an insult to intellegence.> Honestly I had no idea until just now when I read the latest posts on this forum. In retrospect it seems obvious, but believe me, there's more than one person placed on probation in the past few weeks.
Third, for purposes of computer account security, we shall not take your word that you have the "power of attorney" over nanobrain's account until we first receive a confirmation from nanobrain himself, from the very same email address which is tied to his CG account. I can address your statements as your personal opinion, and would like to do so, but be aware that this has no impact on the case of nanobrain at this time.
Now, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think your main complaint here is that the accused (nanobrain) was never explained what it is that caused their probation.
I gather this from posts such as <The accused has the right to know what the charges are> and <our friend was not even informed of the accusation against him> and <CG has not informed him of any specific violation which warranted his expulsion from the CG pages> and how you speak of an <impetus for CG to send him a notice to his email informing him of any breach of posting guidelines>.
These notions are all very meritorious. If CG honestly placed people on probation and did not tell them even what rule they violated, we would be jerks deserving of the sternest ridicule. But let's be honest--that's a far cry from the reality of the situation, isn't it?
We are perfectly willing to discuss with nanobrain the exact posts that triggered his probation and the rules that they violated. All he has to do is email us. How you compare this procedure to some sort of Stalinesque gulag is beyond me.
It seems to me that your main complaint is simply that we didn't proactively email nanobrain first. We could have written him FIRST, and listed the posts of his that we deleted, and told what rule they broke, etc. No, instead we place on his computer screen "please email firstname.lastname@example.org" and it's up to him to initiate the discussion.
Why is this? Well, as a business we are not really obligated to explain ourselves, we just find that this is the way that works best for us. But since you really seem so curious, let's discuss some of the finer details.
For starters let's talk about those email addresses in people's accounts. What do you suppose the odds are that the email address on account <N> is a real address for the person who uses that account? 99% chance? 90%? 50%? No, it's more like 40%. People use throw-away emails for websites, or intentionally give us bogus ones, or made a typo, or they simply changed ISP since they first signed up. As a rule of thumb, if an admin is emailing a customer based on their original email they signed up with, that admin is wasting his or her time.
Next point: to follow your plan of proactively contacting everybody on probation, this would mean that we would be emailing EVERYBODY. After all nobody is undeserving of their civil rights, not even the most blatant spammer. So CG will pay an admin to type up a nice personalized email to Viagra4u@trashmail.net that will explain that while it's against our rules to post their website on 100 pages, we still would love hear their opinions of the Modern Benoni. Yeah, right.
In summary, we don't normally initiate the email exchanges with users on infraction because we (1) we often are incapable of doing so due to nonfunctional emails, and (2) in many cases the person has no intention of ever coming back and therefore it would be a waste of effort to reach out to them.
Finally, if <nanobrain> is out there reading this, please discharge your attorney at once as his services are hardly needed here, and simply email email@example.com as we request. We're not mad at you and we don't bite.>
|Mar-12-12|| ||matebay: Hi atty... I will explore the violation of equal protection clause as well...|
|Mar-12-12|| ||hatsis: So it is only a probation and not indefinite suspension. I wonder how long is the probationary period?|
|Mar-12-12|| ||timhortons: i hope it's just a one week suspension, let us take this as part of the game,many people who got suspended are back already.|
I for one always engaged in forum fighting, but lately before CG did its crackdown on warring factions and forum violators, i mentioned in one of my correspondence to cg admin that im declaring truce to all people i got issues in the past, i will also avoid the hotspot forums.
so far im not yet drag into forum fighting.
Nanobrain will be back.
aj goldsby though are not yet surfacing.
|Mar-12-12|| ||timhortons: i dont know what issue though cg got with nano, i dont find atty nano an offensive poster, he is actually a very intelligent person.|
his book review is the best.
|Mar-12-12|| ||wordfunph: his wit and humor --- excellent.
<nanobrain> - possibly the best kibitzer of CG!
|Mar-14-12|| ||tolengoy: i admire sir <matebay> courage facing cg.cm...thanks sir. hope sir nano will be back soon....|
|Mar-14-12|| ||spawn2: <MIA> pa rin ba si Atty? Hope you can join us again here soon. Also, dont forget Atty ang kitakits sa March 17 sa WCC. Dapat daw before lunch time, nandun na tayo.|
|Mar-14-12|| ||voratco: Bye bye matebay, your effort was not wasted, you opened many closed eyes unwilling to see the truth.|
Cg flexed some muscles today, pronouncements except those uncomplimentary to cg, were codified as axioms not open to question. Persons opposed to these new dogmas were purportedly to be a challenge to the party and must thereby be warned to obey. It is now becoming some sort of “cult personality” presenting itself as the mighty heir of freedom of speech, human right, civil liberties, due process, protection against tyranny, and is now about to be recognized as the sole infallible interpreter of the party ideology. hahaha
|Mar-14-12|| ||Nina Myers: Epic fail. No one else will ever miss u.|
|Mar-14-12|| ||matebay: <voratco> we are under a totalitarian rule...an oligarchy - a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.. Our freedom and liberties quashed like flies. its high time ...listen to what braveheart has to say:|
|Mar-14-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Totalitarian rule!!
On one side: The Constitution which grants citizens rights before government power, and the struggle of Scots to be free of England's rule.
On the other side: the ability to post on a chess site with a large database and interact with a community of chess enthusiasts.
Not even vaguely equivalent in my opinion, so exaggerated that I wonder at times if it's a huge joke.
|Mar-14-12|| ||timhortons: <Epic fail. No one else will ever miss u.>|
i dont have any idea what cg have against nano brain,but as a poster ,he is fine.He is actually respectfull of everyone.
I hope he come back soon,he is giving life to those books i find dragging to read.
|Mar-14-12|| ||voratco: I reckon that "R" was responsible for the reprimand and revocation of right of respected rarebrain. Refreshing to read really, how the rapprochement recanted rectitudinous resulting realism.|
It's all speculations and I have no concrete evidences.
|Mar-15-12|| ||matebay: Hi atty. Please permit me to post my posts here as an archive and back-up in case they are deleted in the CG members support chessforum.|
<matebay: <I empathize with his point of view. Nobody likes being sent to the principal's office. If the roles were reversed, I might make a fresh account myself.>
Tell that to someone with a reputation to protect...and I guarantee you my kibitzing privilege that they would gather whatever means necessary to preserve their original identity...their investment in time and hours of pondering over their posts tied up with it...if it their user ID goes out in smoke so will their years spent in CG...twas a waste of time after all.
The fact is you have suspended a lot of deserving kibitzers lately and you automatically reinstated them after 7 days. Why would <nanobrain> be treated differently? It's just fair as a strict observance of the right of equal protection of law that you reinstate <nanobrain> as well ...i.e. after the 7 days probation period has lapsed. <Nanobrain> need not email you. Why would he? The others you put in probation did not. Doing otherwise would be a wanton act of tyranny.>
This part of our history must be well documented else will be left to gather dust in an obscure attic in a forgotten ghost town back in antartica.
|Mar-15-12|| ||timhortons: matebay. mukha ang suspension ni atty nano depende sa kung maki pag areglo sya sa cg o hindi, yan pag ka intindi ko.|
ihope maka balik na rin si nanobrain.
|Mar-20-12|| ||voratco: Isang Kibitz mo Lang
to the one and only
Isang kibitz mo lang
Ay limot na mga problema
Dulot mo ay ligaya
Pag ikay bumanat
Lahat ng tao'y tuwang tuwa
Pag sumulat ka
Ay buong boo yaring buhay
Punong puno ng pag-asa
Punong puno ng ligaya.
Ikaw ang aming yaman
Ikaw ang lakas ng baranggay
Ikaw, Ikaw ang lahat sa amin
wooo, Ikaw ang langit sa lupa
Kung di ka darating
Hanap hanap ka namin sa tuwina
Mga kwento mo'y kay inam
Tamis ng papel mo't lapis,
Pumupukaw sa kalungkutan
Ikaw, ikaw ang lahat sa amin
Ikaw ang langit sa lupa
Ngayon kahit kailan
ang suporta namin ay asahan
wala kang kalaban
kung buhay naman,
ibibigay ko si Sir Iskuba kung kailangan.
Isang kibitz mo lang
Para na kaming dinuduyan
Ang ulap ang aming unan
Ikaw ang salamin,
ikaw ang gabay nitong baranggay
Isang kibitz mo lang.....
|Mar-20-12|| ||matebay: A Kibitz You Love
to the one and only
One need only kibitz
Is oblivion problems
Caused you joy
The stretched ikay
Everyone so happy
When you write
Whole life was finished boo
Filled with hope
Filled with joy.
You are our resources
You are the strength of village
You, You're all of us
wooo, you are heaven on earth
If you come in
Pictures Pictures we'll always
Thy beauty's stories
Just look and sweetness of paper pencil,
Stirs up grief
You, you all over the U.S.
You're heaven on earth
Now even when
The support we would expect
you have no competition
I was given Sir Iskuba if needed.
One need only kibitz
For that we dinuduyan
The cloud our pillows
You are the glass,
You the user of this village
A kibitz you just .....
|Mar-20-12|| ||voratco: Ano ba naman google translation na yan, walang kabuhay buhay, pati U.S. isinalang , isinisingit maski kaylan.|
|Mar-20-12|| ||Iskubadayb: Bwisit ka, Voring. Muntik na kong mabulunan sa tula mo. Ibibinta mo pa ko sa pagmamahal mo kay Naning. Pero halatingski kong mahal mo rin ako. HIHIHI|
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