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|Dec-06-08|| ||GrahamClayton: Mikenas achieved the unusual double of being both a chief arbiter and a player in the USSR Championship. He was the arbiter for the 32nd USSR championship, played at Kiev in 1964/65, and then played in the 33rd championship in Tallinn in 1965.|
|Apr-17-10|| ||wordfunph: <offramp: <Catfriend: An interesting fact - Mikenas was the couch in the 1985 WC match Karpov-Kasparov.> That is interesting. Did they both sit on him?>|
|Apr-17-10|| ||backrank: One of the most brilliant sacrificial games I've ever seen:|
V Mikenas vs N Lebedev, 1941
Maybe it should be labeled 'Mikenas' immortal'.
|Apr-17-10|| ||Benzol: <backrank> Have a look at this one too.|
V Mikenas vs L Dreibergs, 1939
|Apr-17-10|| ||backrank: <Benzol> Thanks a lot! I wasn't aware of that game before! Black must have felt like a punching ball there.|
|Mar-09-11|| ||jessicafischerqueen: Here is a photograph of <IM Vladas Mikenas> defeating <Alexander Aljechin> at the great <Kemeri 1937> tournament-|
with the black pieces!
Photograph is of this game: Alekhine vs V Mikenas, 1937
In addition, <Mikenas> was one of the major theorists and practitioners of Aljechin's Defence (1.e4 Nf6). <Mikenas> published an influential monograph on this opening in <Chess in the USSR> magazine.
Here are all the games from <Kemeri 1937>, courtesy of User: Resignation Trap
Game Collection: Kemeri 1937 International Tournament
|Mar-28-11|| ||Lovuschka: He was a very beautiful and charming boy, as we can see from the photo. And he played great chess.|
A shame that natural beauty is gone as of the 1937 photo Jessica posted.
|May-31-12|| ||Llawdogg: I'm sure he was a great couch!|
|Aug-21-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: <Resignation Trap, whiteshark, JFQ> Excellent stuff on espousing that awesome link on Lithuanian Chess.|
The portrait given both here on <CG> and the link you provided is great!
This picture is also pretty neat: http://www.chess.lt/lithuania/lit/h...
|Sep-08-12|| ||Karpova: Mikenas gave a Simul in Leningrad around 1934/35 with a bad result: +8 =6 -16|
From page 13 of the 1935 'Neue Wiener Schachzeitung'
|Apr-17-13|| ||Abdel Irada: <Llawdogg: I'm sure he was a great couch!>|
In later life, I understand he gained a lot of weight, and was thereafter more suitable for use as a bed.
|Mar-12-15|| ||hemy: His father name was Jonas, not Ivan.
In Lithuania everyone called him Vladas Jonovich, not Vladas Ivanovich.
This great man deserves full respect. He would never accept the name Vladas Ivanovich.
He was my coach from 1962 to 1967.
|Mar-12-15|| ||Annie K.: <hemy> thanks for the information. :)|
(BTW, it's also confirmed by his native Wikipedia page: http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladas...)
Have you submitted a correction slip about it, or just posted here? Correction slips are the efficient way to go about these things. They are the links right under the kibitzing box, where it says "Spot an error? Please <suggest your correction> and help us eliminate database mistakes!"
|Mar-12-15|| ||hemy: <Annie K.> Thanks for advise. I will do it.|
Yesterday I commented on game Vladas Mikenas vs Paul Keres V Mikenas vs Keres, 1949
that on the Wikipedia page about Mikenas in Lithuanian language, under the picture, placed his father's name: Tevas (father in Lithuanian) -
|Mar-12-15|| ||Annie K.: <hemy> Great! I didn't see your post on the game page. I also usually look at the "native Wikipedia" pages of players, even if I have to run them through Google Translate, because they often have more information than the English Wikipedia versions. |
But there is nothing like help from an actual native - even given his father's name, I wouldn't have known that the correct usage is Jonovich, rather than Jonasovich, for example.
All such help and information are appreciated. And if you have any stories you can share about him, they would find many interested readers here too! :)
|Mar-12-15|| ||hemy: <Annie K.>In Vilnius Chess Club Vladas Mikenas was speaking Russian, because this was a language that most of club members were using, among them Jews, Russians, Lithuanians and Poles. In Russian language the common way to call person by name is his given name followed by his father's name. In Russian his full name was Vladas Jonovich Mikenas, but one would call him Vladas Jonovich. Lithuanians usually call people only by their given names. In Lithuanian his full name was Vladas Jono Mikenas, but the person who was speking with him would call him "ponas Mikenas" (mister Mikenas) or Vladas. To respect him as a Lithuanian, his name in English should by Vladas Mikenas.|
|Mar-12-15|| ||Annie K.: Oh, I see! So maybe the 'Ivanovich' version isn't just a simple mistake, but rather a further "Russianization" of his name? Since I have never seen Jon or Jonas as a Russian name, and Ivan does seem to be the closest Russian equivalent.|
I'm not sure the middle name should be dispensed with completely, (chessgames sometimes uses middle names for disambiguation purposes), but at least Jonovich certainly sounds like an improvement. I think most people know him as Vladas Mikenas anyway. :)
|Mar-12-15|| ||hemy: <Annie K.>It is possible that someone created "russian version" of his name.
I personally didn't see this version (Vladas Ivanovich) in newspapers, magazines or chess books, include book of Dvorkovich "Vladas Mikenas".|
Not always the names were "translated" to Russian.
Michail Tal was known as Michail Nechemjevich Tal (Михаил Нехемьевич Таль). His fathers name was as my first name - Nechemia.
Anyway, Jono is not exactly middle name, it is father's name extension to his given name in formal documents.
|Mar-12-15|| ||hemy: Interesting story about the game Alekhine - Mikenas, Kemeri 1937 you can found in the article
http://www.chess.com/article/view/s... It was taken from this game comments of Vladas Mikenas published in book of Dvorkovich.
After this game Alekhine not only didn't speak with Mikenas 3 days. When Mikenas was in bad position in one of his following games, Alekhine brought some spectators and told very laud: "Watch to what weak player I lost!".|
Mikenas finished this super tornament (Samuel Reshevsky, Vladimirs Petrovs, Salo Flohr, Alexander Alekhine, Paul Keres, Endre Steiner, Saviely Tartakower, Reuben Fine, Gideon Ståhlberg and other strong players) with 8 points from 17.
|Mar-13-15|| ||Annie K.: <Michail Tal was known as Michail Nechemjevich Tal>|
Guess they gave up on it - there isn't any Russian name even remotely similar to Nechemia, as far as I know. ;p
Thanks, btw, I couldn't figure out what your username might mean! :)
<Anyway, Jono is not exactly middle name, it is father's name extension to his given name in formal documents.>
Yes, a patronymic.
Heh - he has a Romanian namesake too: Vlad Ionescu!
Nobody ever accused Alekhine of having good manners, I think... :s
|Mar-13-15|| ||Retireborn: <hemy> Thanks for that. Alekhine sounds a bit like Viktor Korchnoi there!|
|Mar-13-15|| ||hemy: <Retireborn> Viktor Korchnoi was very kind by taking the seat of Andrei Lukin and analyzing with me the final position of my game with Lukin http://www.365chess.com/game.php?gi...
(Lithuania - Leningrad, 1967)
I have only good memories of this big chess player.
|Mar-13-15|| ||Retireborn: <hemy> Once again, I can only envy you!|
|Mar-22-15|| ||hemy: <Annie K.> <Retireborn> I'm glad that Vladas Jonovich Mikenas
got back his real father's name.
No more Vladas Ivanovich.
|Mar-23-15|| ||Annie K.: Congrats, good work. :)|
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