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|Feb-16-12|| ||brankat: <Phony Benoni> <But then, if Fischer thought he could give Nona G. a knight, who really knows?>|
Fischer was wrong more than once about various issues.
In regards to women, and not just women, B.Fischer often showed his arrogant side.
It is probably pointless to compare Judit and Vera. But regardless of differences in the talent level, playing strength and 70 years age gap, a Rook odds is more than just "pushing it a bit".
You, and I would beat J.Polgar with such odds.
Btw, it's too bad that Bobby and Nona never met OTB :-)
|Feb-16-12|| ||brankat: R.I.P. Ms Menchik.|
|Feb-16-12|| ||Penguincw: R.I.P. Menchik.|
|Feb-16-12|| ||TheFocus: Happy Birthday Vera.
Thanks for the good times.
|Jun-30-12|| ||Karpova: C.N. 7711
After research by Olimpiu G. Urcan, Leonard Barden: <I contacted the Streatham Park Crematorium, which confirmed that Vera Menchik Stevenson, her mother and her sister were cremated on 4 July 1944 and that their ashes were scattered at a garden of remembrance, whose reference location is known. Whether that is precise enough for a memorial to be considered is arguable. Their house in Gauden Road, London was destroyed, and the policy of English Heritage, even if it could be interested, is to put plaques only where the original building still stands.>
|Jul-22-12|| ||Archswindler: <Phony Benoni: It's hard to figure Menchik's exact strength. Chessmetrics gives her a peak rating of 2535, which seems ridiculously high; I'd say 2350 is more realistic.>|
According to chessmetrics, at her peak she was ranked 52nd in the world. Obviously there were fewer strong players back then, but it seems reasonable to assume she was of at least IM strength.
|Jul-29-12|| ||Karpova: The Women's Worldchampionship at Hamburg 1930 began with a sensation: Henschel from Germany beat her. In the 2nd round, she managed only a draw against Kalmar-Wolf from Austria. But then everything went back to normal and she won all her remaining six games in this double-round robin tournament.|
1. Menchik 6.5
2. Kalmar-Wolf 5.5
3. Henschel 4.5
4. Beeskow 2.0
5. Stevenson 1.5
Source: Page 241 of the 1930 '(Neue) Wiener Schachzeitung
|Sep-08-12|| ||Karpova: Simul Tour through the Netherlands in April 1934 with an overall result of: +245 =86 -57|
She also won a 5-player tournament in Groningen ahead of Wolthuis.
From page 189 of the 1934 'Neue Wiener Schachzeitung'
|Nov-20-12|| ||FSR: A lot of men lost to this chick.|
|Nov-20-12|| ||Parbrahman: And that's the truth (vera).|
|Dec-31-12|| ||IndigoViolet: This site records the V1 attack that killed the Menchik family and eight others:|
Another useful resource, for the Blitz:
|Feb-16-13|| ||Sneaky: I propose that from now on, February 16th is known as Vera Menchik day.|
|Jul-21-13|| ||Karpova: IM Minev in 'Inside Chess', 1994/18 presents an autobiographical article <My successes on the chess field>, Vera wrote in 1928 and which was first published on pages 160-162 of August 1928 'Shakhmaty': http://shop.chesscafe.com/Inside-Ch...|
It features a picture, short biography, tournament results and some annotations.
|Feb-16-14|| ||Richard Taylor: I watched Jessica's YouTube on Menchik, I hadn't realised quite how good she was considering all things. Barden mentioned she was killed in the Blitz: but not that her whole family had been killed. Tragic end.|
|Feb-16-14|| ||norami: Her name means, loosely, "Truly Male-female"|
|Feb-16-14|| ||Penguincw: R.I.P. Vera Menchik. Too bad she didn't live to see 1950. She probably could've became the first woman to receive the GM title.|
|Feb-16-14|| ||thegoodanarchist: Women's hair styles back then were kinda weird.|
|Feb-16-14|| ||Karposian: <thegoodanarchist> Perhaps people back then would consider women's hair styles of today to be kinda weird..?|
|Feb-16-14|| ||thegoodanarchist: <Karposian: <thegoodanarchist> Perhaps people back then would consider women's hair styles of today to be kinda weird..?>|
Probably not. They're all dead. ;)
|Feb-16-14|| ||HeMateMe: She was 'da Bomb! (No pun intended.)|
|Jan-31-15|| ||Chessical: Vera Menchik gives a short accopunt of her early years to the press in 1927:|
CHESS VICTOR. World's First Woman Champion. ...Miss Vera Menchik told a Press representative that she played her first game Moscow when she was only nine. She has lived at Hastings for six years. Her mother is English, and her father is Czecho-Slovakian, and she spent the earliest years of her life Russia. Papa plays chess well, and taught me much, but he is not a champion, said Miss Menchik.
My first big chess played at the open tournaments at Hastings. In this tournament I was confident of doing well. I was in Russia the time of the revolution, and I was then very young, but I do not want to say much about it. Like many more we had unpleasant times. Papa owned a mill there; he no longer has it. Once I played chess every day, but lately I have not been so constant to the game. At Hastings her instructor was <Maroczy>, the Hungarian master. Miss Menchik is short, homely girl, and unbobbed. She speaks broken English.
Source: <Aberdeen Journal - Saturday 30 July 1927 p.7.>
|Jul-08-15|| ||Gypsy: <norami: Her name means, loosely, "Truly Male-female">|
Not really. You see a phonetically anglicised version of <Mensik> (soft 's' and long 'i') -- it is a common Czech name. It is derived from 'mensi' = 'smaller'. Incidentally, <Mensik> is the masculine version of the name; in Czechoslovakia, Vera has been commonly referred to by the feminine version of her name <Mensikova>.
|Jul-08-15|| ||Honza Cervenka: <Gypsy> I think that Vera's maiden surname was Menčíková, not Menšíková.|
|Jul-08-15|| ||Gypsy: <Honza Cervenka> Ah, you are right.|
(In South Moravia, the 'Menšík' version of the name is more common -- the source of my error.)
|Jul-08-15|| ||Honza Cervenka: <Gypsy> Yes, I know. And especially thanks to Vladimír Menšík the version with "š" is better known...:-)|
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