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|Aug-29-09|| ||vonKrolock: online source <<<Carlos Otto Junge (1887, Concepción, Chile – 1978, Germany) was a Chilean–German chess master.|
He was <<Chilean Champion in 1922.>> http://www.fenach.cl/FENACH-campeon... The Junge family moved from Chile to Germany in 1930. He was the father of Klaus Junge.>>>
|Dec-17-09|| ||returnoftheking: Chessmetrics has him as #11 of the world in 1944, that is before he was 20 and probably undervalued as well.
Very interesting player, <lost in space> has already pointed out that he regulary played the Botvinnik variation from 1942 onwards! Are there books about this player?|
|Dec-21-09|| ||lost in space: Yes, there is
"Das Leben und Schaffen von Klaus Junge 1924 -1945" from Helmut Riedl. Schachfirma Fruth. Truderinger Str. 2 D-82008 Unterhaching. ISBN: 3-9804896-0-4
Unfortunetely not availble. If someone owns this book and would like to sell?!
|Dec-21-09|| ||whiteshark: <lost in space>
in the meantime you may enjoy this lil netpick: http://rapidshare.com/files/4291401...
|Dec-21-09|| ||returnoftheking: Thanks to both of you for that!
His game against Kottnauer (with the Horwitz bishops) is really something!
|Dec-22-09|| ||lost in space: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_...
(2 more books about Junge)
|Dec-23-09|| ||whiteshark: <lost in space>
Do you know the article of <Peter Anderberg: Neues von Klaus Junge. <In: Kaissiber, Nr. 28, Juli-September 2007, S. 64-75>> ?
|Dec-23-09|| ||lost in space: <<whiteshark>: <lost in space> |
Do you know the article of <Peter Anderberg: Neues von Klaus Junge. <In: Kaissiber, Nr. 28, Juli-September 2007, S. 64-75>> ?>
Hi <whiteshark>, no. Would be great to get access to it?!
Thanks for your suport
|May-15-10|| ||lost in space: Hey <whitey>, no answer since 6 months! Do I have brutish body odor????|
|May-29-10|| ||savagerules: This Junge fellow had an interesting modern style for that time. Too bad he had to go out in a blaze of inglory by foolishly doing the Heil Hitler salute to a group of Allied soldiers near the end of the war instead of meekly surrendering. He'd have probably end up playing on the West German Olympiad team a few years later.|
|Nov-08-10|| ||SvetlanaBabe: I think Klaus Junge was shot in the back by a drunken English soldier, there was no 'Heil Hitler' salute.
I think it is worse to be an American soldier in Iraq, than to be a Nazi.|
|Nov-08-10|| ||HeMateMe: Klaus Junge, Klause Barbie, Klause Von Below, its just an unlucky name.|
|Nov-09-10|| ||Calli: Santa Klaus is Coming to Town - you better be good for goodness sake.|
|Nov-09-10|| ||BobCrisp: Anybody who hasn't seen <Miracle on 34th Street> really needs to this Christmas. It's just one of the great films.|
|Apr-17-11|| ||lost in space: <<SvetlanaBabe:> (snip) I think it is worse to be an American soldier in Iraq, than to be a Nazi.>|
At least I can not agree on this at all. And I think 6 Million killed jews and more than 50 Million killed people during WW II will also disagree strongly.
|Apr-17-11|| ||MaxxLange: I opposed the Iraq War, and I still do. As if it matters - 8 years later, we are in it, like it or not. |
I'm aware that our soldiers have been involved in some terrible things in Iraq. Shooting non-combatants who were near to insurgents, abusing prisoners. But, I think it is ridiculous to compare our War in Iraq to the abyss of evil and horror that was Hitler's War against the Jews and other "subhumans" in Europe.
War is bad enough without playing the Nazi card.
|Apr-17-11|| ||HeMateMe: Its an old debate--unwinnable. Do we get involved, or not? If we ignore organized killing then "we have forgotten the Holocaust and the lessons of WWII." If we jump in we are "the world's policeman, the aggrssor, the imperialist power."|
Take your pick.
|Apr-17-11|| ||lost in space: <<MaxxLange>:I opposed the Iraq War, and I still do.>|
<<MaxxLange>:But, I think it is ridiculous to compare our War in Iraq to the abyss of evil and horror that was Hitler's War against the Jews and other "subhumans" in Europe.>
Exactly my point
|Oct-04-11|| ||Honza Cervenka: Klaus Junge was 21 years old when he died, he was raised in a family of a Nazi and in a country, where Nazism became the state ideology. Nazis were skillful propagandists who were able perfectly to exploit natural human emotions and who gave to humiliated Germans after lost WW1 followed by permanent misery of Wiemar Republic with climax in the Great Depression a sense of dignity and greatness. I don't blame an adolescent in such a situation that he became Nazi partisan serving in SS. If he would survived the war, he would be quite probably horrified by the nature and crimes of the regime, whose he was young adherent. Think of Gunter Grass, who also volunteered into the Waffen-SS as an adolescent and who was wounded and sent to an American POW camp just three days after Klaus Junge had died. His fate is above all a tragedy and not only for the chess world, which lost one of greatest talents ever born.|
|Oct-04-11|| ||BUNA: <Honza> I would agree with your overall argument, that Junge was simply a young guy who was raised in Nazi Germany.
But because of that there's also no point in your "humiliation" argument. After all Junge was born in 1924 (in Chile!). (And Grass in 1927; he was still 17, when the war ended)|
And, with all due respect, I can not accept your suggestion, that "the Germans" in general were humiliated by the outcome of WWI. They were apparantly more humiliated by the continuation of WWI and in 1918 therefore went on mass strike. A fact, that the german right wing later called "the stab in the back".
|Oct-04-11|| ||Honza Cervenka: <BUNA> The conditions, which were imposed on Germany after the war by the Treaty of Versailles, were humiliating and devasting. It required Germany to accept responsibility for causing the war and, under the terms of articles 231–248 (later known as the War Guilt clauses), to disarm, to make substantial territorial concessions and to pay heavy reparations to Entente powers. These conditions not only shocked German public at the time and contributed heavily to the following political turmoils but ruined the German economy and caused the hyperinflation of unprecedented magnitude. When totally exhausted German economy was unable to fulfil requirements of paying reparations, French and Belgian forces invaded and occupied demilitarized Rhineland and the Ruhr area from 1921 to 1925. During the Wiemar republic period Germany was held in isolation and treated by victorious Entente powers like a pariah. She never fully recovered from the post-war crisis and later was hit by Great Depression more than any other country on the continent. All of that was the wind in sails of all radicals, and of them the Nazis surfaced as the winners in 1933. And it is hard to deny that in 1930s they were very successful in overcoming of Germany's economic troubles as well as in practical revision and reversion of hated Versailles system. The rest is well-known history...|
|Oct-04-11|| ||twinlark: Similarly with Hungary which was reduced by the Treaty of Trianon by 2/3, leading to more trouble.|
|Jan-01-12|| ||BIDMONFA: Klaus Junge|
|Jan-01-12|| ||gezafan: I have a couple of questions about WWII.
What right did Chamberlain have to give part of Czechoslovakia to Germany? Why did Czechoslovakia go along with this? Why didn't Czechoslovakia defend itself against the invasion by Germany?
When Germany and the USSR invaded Poland why did France and the UK declare war on Germany and not the USSR?
|Jan-01-12|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: @<gezafan>
the answer is simple: politics.
All great questions, of course. Such a damn shame that the war happened. Junge was one of many lovely people who died as a result.
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