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|May-22-10|| ||indianchessupdates: one of the forgotten players|
|May-27-10|| ||uscfratingmybyear: Maybe he retired cuz he was worn out from playing for 5 years before he was born.|
|Feb-01-11|| ||Caissanist: The similarities between Salov and Fischer seem eerie, and to me troubling. I wonder how much of the craziness in today's world comes from geniuses who have lost a constructive outlet for their abilities, now that manipulation of databases has largely replaced traditional thinking.|
|Mar-09-11|| ||wordfunph: According to the book Chess in the Fast Lane, GM Michael Adams describes GM Valery Salov as fairly unique in the chess world. When annotating games for magazines, he is just as happy to commentate on his losses as his wins!|
|Nov-15-11|| ||whiteshark: The Russian grandmaster Valery Salov said the following: |
< "While Fischer's clock has already won universal and almost unanimous recognition, his ideas of shuffling the pieces before the start of the game still await their turn.
If accepted on a professional level, this innovation would mean a return to the golden age of chess: the age of INNOCENCE and CREATIVITY will return, without us losing any of the essential attractions of the game we love. In this case the words < the best player in the world > will again acquire some sense, they will refer to a person who plays chess better than all the others ( who finds the best moves OVER THE BOARD ), rather than one who has more money, more seconds, better databases, computers, etc. " >
|May-06-12|| ||JohnDahl: Salov writing in NIC 98/5, ostensibly a match report of Shirov's ill-fated victory over Kramnik in Cazorla in 1998:|
<The most perspicacious readers have probably noticed a slight anti-Kasparovian bias in my writings. Well, it's nothing more than a sign of good taste on my part and it bears no comparison to the bacchanalia of base instincts that the mere sight of these graphomaniacs might have aroused in a less hardened soul than mine. I know quite a few grandmasters who are so familiar with the true situation in the chess world that they simply can't read the chess press any more - because of the incredible number of shallow remarks, banalities, cheap rhetoric and plain disinformation produced by some WC candidates that are readily parroted by the journalists and maliciously thrown right into the face of a defenceless chess public. Some of them even find a perverse pleasure in justifying Gilbert Keith Chesterton's appreciation of this profession: 'Journalism is a false picture of the world, thrown upon a lighted screen in a darkened room so that the real world is not seen.' In the Russian and Spanish press, in addition, this picture is very often shown upside-down. Even at risk of contradicting my previous material (NIC 98/2), I can't resist the temptation of reproducing here the words of Thomas Jefferson: 'I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow citizens who, reading newspapers, live and die in the belief that they have known something of what has been passing in the world of their times.' As you can see, 200 years ago even US Presidents had their moments of lucidity.>
|May-06-12|| ||Jim Bartle: "...because of the incredible number of shallow remarks, banalities, cheap rhetoric and plain disinformation produced by some WC candidates that are readily parroted by the journalists and maliciously thrown right into the face of a defenceless chess public."|
A role now having been assumed by chessgames kibitzers.
|May-18-12|| ||wordfunph: Steve Giddins on GM Salov and Linares..
<Every year the players in Linares are presented with a beautiful commemorative plaque. When Salov moved out of his house here in Linares he left the three plaques he had behind the door. He could have taken them with him and thrown them out of the car somewhere. Anything. But he should not have left them there as an insult.>
Source: New In Chess - The First 25 Years 1984-2009 by Steve Giddins
|May-19-12|| ||King Death: Why this bothers Giddins so much I don't know but Salov obviously had some bad memories about those tournaments. What that writer doesn't get is that if Salov had done like he said that Luis Rentero wouldn't have known and it wouldn't have meant a thing. This way Rentero gets the message: ^#)! you and your boy Kasparov!|
|May-19-12|| ||Call Me TC: Did Giddins explain why Salov's nose was out of joint?|
From Dirk Jan Ten Geuzendam 's <Linares! Linares!>:
<The same cannot be said of another grandmaster who settled in Linares. With its two grandmasters, Linares was the strongest chess town in Spain for a while. Even Madrid and Barcelona couldn't boast more than one grandmaster each. Ljubojevic had Valery Salov for company after Salov changed Leningrad for Linares with the help and support of Rentero. Rentero offered him an apartment, paid him a monthly fee and made several promises. He promised to set up a chess school for talented young people and he promised to find a job for Salov's wife. He should not have made these promises. Not much headway was made with the chess school and a job for Mrs.Salov wasn't easily found either. To Salov, this breach was unacceptable. That he didn't have to work for his monthly fee gave him no satisfaction whatsoever. He only asked Rentero to keep his word. To anyone who listened to Salov it was clear that a break would be inevitable. After three years in Linares and three years of waiting for his chess school, Salov evacuated his apartment and moved to Madrid.> Mention is then made of the discarded plaques.
|Jan-06-13|| ||Everett: <Jim Bartle: "...because of the incredible number of shallow remarks, banalities, cheap rhetoric and plain disinformation produced by some WC candidates that are readily parroted by the journalists and maliciously thrown right into the face of a defenceless chess public."
A role now having been assumed by chessgames kibitzers.>|
Like Zero Dark Thirty and Lincoln, sharing some truth but leaving out enough to hoodwink those who want an easy story/answer.
|Feb-21-13|| ||seventhirty: Where is he living right now? What is he doing?|
|May-26-13|| ||Howard: Salov was certainly a rapidly rising star as a teen, for he won the World-Under-16 championship in 1980---Chess Life had a brief story and picture of him at the time. He also--most impressively--placed in the top 6 in the 1988-9 World Cup series which meant he was automatically seeded into the 1991 World Cup series....except that collapsed after just one tournament (held in Iceland) jointly won by Karpov and Ivanchuk.|
However, what is Salov doing NOW ?
|May-26-13|| ||Abdel Irada: <manipulation of databases has largely replaced traditional thinking>|
Okay, brain, your pink slip is in the mail.
I'm replacing you with a database. The upfront expense is high, but it'll pay for itself in six months in saved keeping-a-brain-quasifunctional costs.
I recommend returning to school to retool your skills. If you work hard and apply yourself, perhaps you can find work as a database in some system where only a small one is needed.
Of course I know the difficulties of being obsolete. That's why as a reward for your nearly half-century of service, I am giving you a generous severance package that over your predicted lifespan averages almost 27 cents a day.
Well, good luck out there. And if you ever need anything, don't hesitate to call my people.
|May-26-13|| ||Eopithecus: I don't think there has ever been a GM as vulgar as him.|
|May-26-13|| ||brankat: Happy Birthday GM Salov!|
|May-27-13|| ||Eggman: <<However, what is Salov doing NOW?>>|
Salov, born in 1964, entered the world's top 10 in 1988, aged 24. By January of 1995 (FIDE published just two rating lists a year in those days), Salov was tied for 3rd (with Anand and Kramnik) in the world rankings, and the following month he faced Kamsky in FIDE's World Championship Semi-final match. In the 10-game match, Kamsky dominated Salov 5.5-1.5. Within a year of this crushing defeat, Salov was out of the top 10 for good.
Wikipedia notes that Salov "has not played any FIDE rated tournaments since January 2000."
Comments above suggest that Salov may have rejected modern chess as being overanalyzed, and would have preferred to play Fischerandom.
|May-27-13|| ||Fiona Macleod: If there are "Writers of the No" (see Enrique Vila-Matas's "Bartleby & Co."), then there must be "Chessplayers of the No" also: those who, like Melville's Bartleby, suddenly just stops playing because they "prefer not to" anymore.|
|Jul-08-13|| ||AsosLight: Little Rubinstein.|
|Feb-24-14|| ||madlydeeply: Finegold made an lovely little Salov vid! Thanks dood! |
|Jun-22-15|| ||Caissanist: Salov has a Facebook page with his current out-there conspiracy theories (mostly in Spanish, with a few in English), pretty similar to Fischer's in RJF's final years: https://www.facebook.com/people/Val... .|
|May-26-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Valery Salov.
This guy was a great grandmaster. Too bad he left chess.
|May-26-16|| ||Petrosianic: Aren't all grandmasters great?|
|May-26-16|| ||TheFocus: I am a Grandmaster of NICE, but it does nothing for my chess playing.|
|Mar-08-17|| ||gmarkzon: It is a tragic figure -> Valery Salov.|
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