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|Dec-29-08|| ||Crocomule: Bishop Berkeley! many interesting comments... Any information about this brilliant California player, John Pope?|
|Dec-29-08|| ||Crocomule: Bishop Berkeley! While I'm at it.. there are a few other amazing, yet obscure, California chessplayers I've come across over the years; any info. on Dennis Fritzinger or Victor Baja(the endgame study composer)? Thanks!|
|Dec-30-08|| ||M.D. Wilson: <Good Evening: Dylan Loeb McClain, writing in the NY Times, pointed out an amazing fact about Tal. During the years 1972-74, he had an unbeaten streak of 86 games, and from October 1973 - October 1974, a *second* unbeaten streak of 93 games.
Too bad about his poor health, isn't it?> Yes, Tal, it seems, was constantly ill. These periods of il health certainly affected his chess. If Tal had the constitution of Botvinnik, there would have been no stopping him! His unbeaten streaks are impressive. Interestingly, Tal contested a number of blitz mini-matches with Karpov in 1973, just before the Candidates; a ruthless Karpov nevertheless treated Tal mercilessly by all accounts.|
|Jan-03-09|| ||amadeus: <percyblakeney: The Moscow Echo had a program about Tal yesterday, with Kasparov as the guest. A long transcript can be found here, it's even too long for the translator tools>|
Here is a good translation: http://www.chess.com/news/garry-kas...
|Jan-03-09|| ||talisman: <amadeus> i really enjoyed that link! thanks.|
|Jan-04-09|| ||littlefermat: Yeah, thanks. That was pretty interesting. Especially the bit about Karpov and Tal.|
|Jan-05-09|| ||Tessie Tura: Great translation, thanks, <amadeus>. That part about Karpov and Tal is interesting. I had read that Tal helped Karpov in order to get out of the doghouse, but not that they had fallen out.|
|Jan-05-09|| ||Jim Bartle: A few really interesting comments from Kasparov in the interview:|
"He (Tal) didn't even seek the truth in chess, he sought beauty. It was a concept completely different from most of ours."
"We calculate: he does this then I do that. And Tal, through all the thick layers of variants, saw that around the 8th move, it will be so and so. Some people can see the mathematical formulae, they can imagine the whole picture instantly. An ordinary man has to calculate, to think this through, but they just see it all. It occurs in great musicians, great scientists. Tal was absolutely unique. His playing style was of course unrepeatable. I calculated the variants quickly enough, but these Tal insights were unique. He was a man in whose presence others sensed their mediocrity."
"And, of course, Tal should have prepared differently for the return match (with Botvinnik). But if he prepared, he wouldn't be Tal. He lived differently, it was simpler to him than to us. From my conversations with Tal, I think he didn't consider the things obvious to us to be of any importance. Tal was much lighter on his feet, much more prone to anxiety than other chess players."
|Jan-05-09|| ||Jim Bartle: The night before the final game of the 1985 match, with Kasparov leading by a point, Tal telephoned Kasparov with a message (according to K):|
"Don't forget, young man, that tomorrow is my birthday."
|Jan-05-09|| ||Tessie Tura: <"Tal was much lighter on his feet, much more prone to anxiety than other chess players.">|
I wondered a bit about that quote. From the context, it sounds as if Kasparov is suggesting that Tal was <less> prone to anxiety than other players, not more so. A misprint, perhaps?
|Jan-05-09|| ||Jim Bartle: I agree, "less" makes a lot more sense than "more" in the context of Kasparov's comments.|
|Jan-14-09|| ||Morphischer: Tal needs a better photo here, like this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:T....|
|Jan-18-09|| ||M.D. Wilson: That photo of yours, Morphischer, is much better. Some of the photos on this site are dreadful.|
|Feb-05-09|| ||TheWizardfromHarlem: that picture they have is the best one just leave it|
|Feb-22-09|| ||Pianoplayer: It's a shame tal died at the still kinda young age of 55.
The man was a genius.
He could have played chess for 30 more years.
I sure would have liked to be around when he played,or see him in person.
He was one of the greatest players ever.
|Feb-22-09|| ||SmotheredKing: <Morphischer, M.D. Wilson> What are you talking about, that photo is awesome, leave it. Not to sound like a fanboy, but of the games i´ve most enjoyed playing through, Tal has the most - his games may not be sound, they may not be best or even accurate, but they were always fun and on many occasions, brilliant. Perhaps that was partly due to the fact that Tal was not and did not consider himself exclusively a chess player - he had other loves and addictions in his life, and I believe that enriched his game more than any amount of chess study.|
|Feb-26-09|| ||M.D. Wilson: Yes, in that way he was like Spassky and Capablanca; chess was not at the centre of his universe. I like both photos, but Morphischer's photo illustrates the famous "Tal stare". The fag hanging out of the mouth is very Tal as well. What a character!|
|Mar-14-09|| ||woodpusher115: was tal really a drunkard?|
|Mar-14-09|| ||blacksburg: there's a famous anecdote about Tal staying at some hotel during a tournament, and drinking the hotel bar dry of brandy.|
|Mar-14-09|| ||blacksburg: found it -
<Tal suffered from bad health, and had to be hospitalized frequently throughout his career. Tal was a chain smoker and a heavy drinker — at the Hastings tournament of 1973, which he won, he drank the hotel dry of brandy and whisky. He was also briefly addicted to morphine.>
|Mar-14-09|| ||whiskeyrebel: My Mother would call him a drunkard. She'd tar me with the same brush of course. I'd call him a classy man who enjoyed a good time.|
|Mar-14-09|| ||paulalbert: As regards Mikhail Tal, there seems to be a tendency to use euphemisms such as, he enjoyed a good time. Unfortunately, in reality he was an alcoholic. I don't know whether his kidney condition came from his excessive use of alcohol or that the alcohol use exacerbated a pre-existing condition; however, eventually it killed him. I had the good fortune of meeting Tal. He was a very nice man and a great chess player. However, I think it's disingenuous to be politically correct about his alcoholism. It's a serious and debilitating malady. Paul Albert|
|Mar-14-09|| ||talisman: He was born with his kidney disorder, his hand, and his foot condition.|
|Mar-15-09|| ||whiskeyrebel: Wow, I can't remember the last time anybody accused me of using "politically correct" words. I never suggested that Tal's only pleasure was drinking. By the accounts I've read, he clearly enjoyed blitz chess right up to the end. He liked to smoke, enough that he tells a story in his autobiography about how he took it up. Didn't he have an eye for the ladies? Wasn't he a literature instructor? This implies a love of good books. And how about the fact that Jeremy Silman evidently was enlisted to take him to Disneyland once? Imagine Tal grinning, riding in one of those spinning tea cups. I'd say he enjoyed quite a few pleasures, not just the bottle.|
|Mar-15-09|| ||talisman: well said. who else could have his momma, ex-wife and fiance all living with him under the same roof?...w/children!|
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