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| Mar-05-14 | | Gryz: Donner is from a rich family himself.
He was the uncle of Piet Hein Donner, who is a 5-time minister in recent Dutch cabinets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet_H...
I believe the Donner family has produced a number of judges and politicians. Piet Hein (the minister) always seemed like a huge dick to me. So I bet the whole family is old-style old-money nose-in-the-air us-knows-us. So I always assumed that Donner indeed was married to a rich woman. |
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| Jul-02-14 | | sneaky pete: Donner talking about his favourite subject, the blunder, during the Oegstgeest 1970 quadrangular (starts around minute 8, after Larsen in pyjama doing a Walter Browne imitation) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39yB... |
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| Jul-02-14 | | Gryz: Thanks for that link. Very interesting and entertaining. Surprise to hear Larsen speak Dutch. He is almost fluent, he only has a little accent. The whole episode is in Dutch. Not interesting for anyone who doesn't understand Dutch at all. |
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Jul-02-14
 | | Stonehenge: Well, Bent Larsen in pajamas, doing a Browne in time trouble imitation (around 6:20), is quite funny. |
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Jul-02-14
 | | perfidious: Having sat across the board from Browne in his time trouble, it is not at all difficult to picture Larsen's parody. |
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| Jul-02-14 | | zanzibar: <The Youth Council of salsa dancing poured out of place> Watching that clip with CC Dutch->English is quite hilarious: https://zanchess.wordpress.com/wp-a... |
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Jul-06-14
 | | Penguincw: R.I.P. GM Jan Donner. |
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| Nov-04-14 | | Osbourne Cox: An excerpt from Sosonkos "Smart chip from St. Petersburg" (p.162):
"When he was small his family called him Heini , and
when he grew older , Hein. He would get very angry if you called
him anything else. ' Remember , ' he always said, ' my name is
Donner , and to my few friends - Hein ; no one ever calls me ]an
or ]an Hein , and I don ' t want anyone to call me that . '" |
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| Nov-04-14 | | Osbourne Cox: He must have had a sense of foreboding, because he joked and laughed about it (another excerpt from p.188):
"Ah,there's only one of me, and when I die, there won't be another.
You know all the great men in history were known by just their
first name - Rembrandt, Leonardo, Michelangelo. When I die,
they'll call me Hein, just Hein, and everyone will know who they
mean,' and, craning his neck, he imitated laughter, 'ha, ha, ha...'". At least the "Hein-Donner-Bridge" in Amsterdam is not named "Jan-Hein-Donner-Bridge" ... |
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| Nov-04-14 | | kellmano: <You know all the great men in history were known by just their first name - Rembrandt, Leonardo, Michelangelo>. To name but three. I could go on of course, but there is really no need. Actually, I can think of one more - Napoleon. |
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| Nov-04-14 | | john barleycorn: And some just had one name. Sokrates etc. |
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| Nov-04-14 | | kellmano: Don't know about Socrates, but Plato was a nickname of sorts. I remember reading a book that said it was unclear whether this was chosen because he had broad shoulders (he was a wrestler) or a flat head, but it was probably the former. I elect to believe the latter. |
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| Dec-25-14 | | TheFocus: <You cannot compare chess with anything. A lot of things can be compared with chess, but chess is just chess.> — Jan Hein Donner (1959. |
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May-09-15
 | | offramp: I really liked this one, Donner talking about the magic of the <touch piece> rule: <"In the split second you touch the piece, you’ll see more than you saw in the past 30 minutes you spent studying the position."> That's pretty funny. |
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| May-11-15 | | TheFocus: <This sacrifice of a pawn nowadays is only played for drawing purposes. Especially against the very strongest masters it has proved to be quite useful to this end> - 1966 on the Marshall - Jan Hein Donner. |
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| May-13-15 | | TheFocus: <I love all positions. Give me a difficult positional game, I will play it. But totally won positions, I cannot stand them> - Jan Hein Donner. |
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| May-19-15 | | TheFocus: <He was a figure one would least expect to encounter at a chess tournament. Much more likely one could see him as presiding judge of a court, or delivering a philosophy lecture, or in Parliament, depending on the garment he would be wearing> - (on Donner) - Grigor Piatigorsky. |
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| May-25-15 | | TheFocus: <Everything that he said was exceptionally interesting , but it was all untrue!> - Bent Larsen on Jan Hein Donner. |
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| Jan-27-18 | | Osbourne Cox: From Wikipedia:
"My name is J. H. Donner, 'Hein' for friends. 'Jan-Hein' was an unseemly joke of malicious sport journalists, but that's not my name, it never was and it never will be."
Dutch: "Jan-Hein" was een misplaatste grap van kwaadwillende sportsjournalisten, maar zo heet ik niet, heb ik nooit geheten... Donner, Van Vroeger, Bakker, 1989 ISBN 9789035105898, p. 152. |
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| Jul-13-18 | | Retireborn: NiC are selling the paperback version of The King for a knockdown price (10 eu) if anybody's interested. |
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| Mar-11-19 | | Retireborn: I had a dream in which I was talking to Hein, and I asked him very politely, "why did you dislike Prins so much?" I woke up before he could answer. |
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| Oct-28-23 | | Scuvy: Answering Retireborn (4 years later):
My recollection from reading The King (I no longer have the book) was that Donner had several reasons for his extreme dislike of Prins. First, Donner simply considered him a bad player and once offered to play a match and spot Prins 4 points: "he cannot tell a Knight from a Bishop." Second, there is an essay in the book where a Dutch championship was scheduled in 1965 precisely when Donner was playing in the Capablanca Memorial in Havana (the one Fischer played by teletype). This annoyed Donner because he stated he had been contracted to play at Havana a year ahead of time and the inference is the Dutch chess bureaucrats (most of whom did not like Donner) knew this. Several other strong players were not invited, according to Donner, and Prins tied for first, then won the playoff. Donner was horrified and challenged Prins to a match via one of his newspaper columns. Prins would not accept and this upset Donner even more. "We now have a champion who will not play chess." And third, a possible reason for Donner's dislike was that Prins did something Donner could never do: he beat Max Euwe in a serious game. L Prins vs Euwe, 1946 |
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| Oct-29-23 | | Caissanist: I have the book as well, and it just seems to me that Donner enjoyed trolling people. Prins was perhaps his favorite target, since he had a self-important streak that invites that kind of skewering, and Donner was able to annotate some of Prins's sixties games in a way that showed him in a bad light. Mostly, though, Prins was just one of many targets of the lightweight screeds that were Donner's primary journalistic stock in trade, especially in his later years. |
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| Dec-30-24 | | DaeWang: Why does the bio not mention his GM title (1959)? |
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Dec-30-24
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