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|Nov-19-05|| ||brankat: <hsiljak> Ljubojevic, even at his best was somewhat erratic, unpredictable. There were a number of reasons for that. First, unlike most of the leading players, he could never quite commit himself to chess. He had other interests which consumed a lot of his time and energy. As far as chess was concerned Ljuba was not really a "workoholic", and that is putting it mildly. Sometimes, a great talent in any field, when aware of itself, refuses to fully extend itself. I remember after tournament in Skopje, 1972.(he was only 22) when asked about the coming cycle of the World Championship, he replied:" I know a lot of people expect me to become a champion, but I don't have the ambition. I have other interests." Secondly, similar to Alekhine or Tal, he sought artistic/creative satisfaction in the game, not merely a positive score. His game was very dynamic, sometime too forcefull. He dreaded draws. Now, playing like that, game after game, it is hard to have consistency. For instance, during the Interzonal in Moscow 1979. Russian observers were wondering:"Why does he have to play in such an uncompromising and risky way?" To address Your remark more directly, yes, Ljubojevic not only could beat anybody, but during 70s and 80s actually did beat just about everybody. He had winning score against such masters as: Larsen, Spassky, Tal, Polugaievsky, Hort, Huebner, Andersson, Miles, Browne. And very close results with : Korchnoi, Portisch, Timman, Gligoric, Petrosian. Only with Karpov it took him a full decade to win a game, but then from mid-80s to mid-90 beat him 11 times. As for matches, I am aware only of a "friendly/training" match against Gligoric in 1978. It ended 5 : 5. Thank You for the interest in Ljubojevic.|
|Nov-20-05|| ||brankat: Correction Re: The above. Lubojevic actually had a losing record against Tony Miles. The match against Gligoric took place in 1979. and Ljubojevic won by 5 1/2 - 4 1/2. Thank You.|
|Mar-01-06|| ||BIDMONFA: Ljubomir Ljubojevic|
|Mar-20-06|| ||LIFE Master AJ: At one time, Ljubojevic was one easily in the "Top Ten" players in the world. See http://www.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Pla...)|
|Mar-23-06|| ||AlexanderMorphy: this guy has a 4+ 2-=18 record against Spassky(wow thats incredible!)|
|Mar-23-06|| ||brankat: <AlexanderMorphy> He also has a winning score against: Larsen, Tal,
Polugaevsky, Huebner, Hort, Andersson, Browne, Gligoric, to mention a few. Ljubojevic was among the best players in the world roughly between 1972-1985. During this period he was widely considered to be the most
|Mar-23-06|| ||Eggman: I reiterate that, having been ranked number 3 (Elo) in the world in 1983, Ljubojevic, together with Ulf Andersson (also ranked #3 during 1983), has to be ranked as the best player never to qualify for the candidates. Fine, to answer Iron Maiden's question, was inactive by the time the candidates system commenced, and never attempted to qualify.|
|Mar-23-06|| ||Jim Bartle: Ljubojevic was an apparently an nonstop talker (a constant kibitzer, I guess). Every time somebody made a sacrifice or ingenious maneuver he would say "very trickful, very trickful." So for years the other players refrained from correcting his English, until some spoilsport (probably a chessgames member) ruined the fun.|
|Mar-23-06|| ||blingice: I know that kibitzer, his name is <iamverywellatchess>.|
|Apr-28-06|| ||Resignation Trap: <www.chessgames.com> Doesn't he deserve to have a photo here?|
|May-05-06|| ||brankat: <R.Trap> Excellent point.|
|May-12-06|| ||LIFE Master AJ: GM L. Ljubojevic was a real talent, many predicted that he would win the world title when he was very young. |
At one time, he was easily in the top ten in the world. (http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play...)
While perhaps not a "forgotten player," about three years ago, I was at a youth tournament in New Orleans with one of my students. A group of younger players and I started talking. One player asked about "favorite players," and I explained to them that many of the players that I admired when I was a youth were no longer in the top 100. When asked to give a few examples, Ljubojevic was one of the players that I mentioned, even a parent there (who worked as a chess coach) did not know who Ljubojevic was.
Maybe I will do a web page on him one day.
|May-12-06|| ||LIFE Master AJ: TO: Chessgames.com
Would it be possible to get a photo for this player?
|May-12-06|| ||WannaBe: http://images.google.com/images?q=L...|
|May-12-06|| ||LIFE Master AJ: <wannabe> Good link, and thanks.|
|Oct-15-06|| ||WTHarvey: Here are some crucial positions from Ljubo's games: http://www.wtharvey.com/ljub.html|
|Aug-06-07|| ||savagerules: Ljubo deserves more than 2 pages of kibitzes and he should get a photo to accompany his bio. Very entertaining player and not just a dull pointgetter like most GMs.|
|Aug-16-07|| ||brankat: <savagerules> I second Your remark.|
|Aug-16-07|| ||brankat: A few more posts and we'll reach page 3 here :-)|
|Aug-17-07|| ||Troller: <Together with Sweden's Ulf Andersson he has to be considered as the greatest player to have never qualified for the Canidates. >|
I do believe Andersson early in his career chose not to pursue the WC title.
I also recollect Larsen pointing to Ljubo when he was once asked about which players he saw as stylistic heirs. And certainly Ljubo is an original and combative player, much in the spirit of Larsen. Today, a player like Sutovsky may be comparable; even if he is not on the elite level that Ljubo and Larsen were, he probably has the talent. Still, he does make short draws occasionally.
Ljubojevic is one of the big names I remember from my youth. But his unpredictability and uncompromising style would probably make him a second-tier player today, even if he was still young. You have to economize to be able to participate succesfully in present-day top tournaments (that is, unless you are a bit nutty and your last name is Ivanchuk, of course).
|Aug-17-07|| ||Goran: As for talking I remember when chess.fm got him for an live interview from Linares few months ago. The man was firing like machine gun for 10-15 mins and not even Mig and LarryC could stop him. He kept saying "what do you think Larry-boy?" only yo continue his monologue. Incredible guy :)|
See Ljubojevic-Gelfand from 1990 Olympiad and the Queen sacrifice he found over the board.
|Aug-17-07|| ||Goran: Btw, he's playing Rising Stars vs Experience match http://previews.chessdom.com/rising...|
|Aug-17-07|| ||brankat: The start day, August 22.|
|Aug-18-07|| ||brankat: Ljubojevic's Biography on this page is somewhat sketchy, so I'd like ot add a few more notes here.|
For a couple of decades decades ‘Ljubo’ was the most successful player of Yugoslavia, one of the strongest and most popular chess countries in the world.
His comet-like rise started after he had finished second in the 1970 European Junior Championship and was invited to play in a grandmaster tournament in Sarajevo. Ljubojevic won that tournament and already the next year he earned the grandmaster title.
In the years that followed he kept winning tournaments and in the 1983 world rankings he was in third place behind Karpov and Kasparov. It is hard to say which were his best tournament achievements, but some (not mentioned in the above Bio) stand out:
--- shared first places (and the fascinating neck-and-neck races) with Kasparov in Brussels in 1987 and in Barcelona in 1989.
--- Linares, 1985.
--- 11 out of 14 super-score on first board at the 1982 Olympiad in Lucerne.
--- Las Palmas in 1974 and ’75.
--- Manila, 1975.
--- Wijk aan Zee, 1976.
--- Buenos Aires 1980 and ’81,
--- Belgrade, 1987.
--- Reggio Emilia, 1991.
Thanks to his aggressive and imaginative style Ljubojevic won over many fans and his often unusual opening ideas inspired a number of followers.
|Jan-06-08|| ||Ron: I would like to know if there are any published books by Ljubojevic. He has any essay in Kasparov's _Revolution in the 1970s_ and it is written with insight, verve, and a generosity toward his fellow chessplayers. So from what little I have seen, he is an excellent writer. Perhaps a chess publishing firm can contact him?|
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