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|Apr-19-14|| ||sire: Happy Birthday Susan!|
|Apr-19-14|| ||PhilFeeley: < Richard Taylor:> I believe Judit said similar things about him. Didn't like his visit at all.|
|Apr-20-14|| ||Richard Taylor: <kramputz: < Richard Taylor:> you are a filthy biggot, not of your business.<Why was she, who is Jewish herself (and her family), associating with a rabid anti-Semitic madman> The Arabs are also Semitic, Fisher never hated them. Wiseguy, learn the meaning of words.
Keep your sick mind out of this forum>
When I say anti-Semitic it means anti-Jewish (that is the well known usage of it). It is common knowledge that Fischer (whose father and mother were both Jewish) hated Jews and many others who didn't "measure up" to what he wanted, so to speak. Seirawan was able to speak with him only by being very diplomatic and those who stuck around him in his later years, were, or could be imputed to be, not to put to fine a point on it, crawlers seaking some fame by association - they were "groupies".
I am not Jewish but I would say that Fischer upset a lot of people (not all of them Jews - Korchnoi wasn't a big fan of him) as say Ezra Pound did when he raved on against the US and Jews and in favour of Hitler and Benito...
Fischer used to rave on Philipine radio. He also was very happy when 9/11 happened which might upset some people. He thus had begun to hate not only Jews, but the United States - which doesn't worry me, I'm not into nationalism.
But it is a worry when chessplayers kind of "worship" Fischer ignoring his bigotry.
This doesn't mean that I "hate Fischer" I have deeply ambiguous feelings about Fischer. I think I understand how he came to be the way he was, but we shouldn't forget this aspect of him.
In the years around 1972 he was clearly the best chess player in the world. Whether he was the greatest is problematic.
In his early years he kind of represented "Western individualism" etc and he was certainly a dynamic and courageous young man, as well as a great chess player. I think it was a problem that his "enculturation" wasn't wide enough: he saw himself as being victimized.
I am not sure my mind is sick. It may be, but your statement to that effect sounds like a quote from a poem by Robert Lowell ("My mind's not right.") in 'Skunk Hour' which I had been reading coincidentally just before I was privileged to read the lovely note by <kramputz>
I wonder who is sick, those who ask questions or those who want to shut The Questioners down?
|Apr-20-14|| ||Richard Taylor: <PhilFeeley: < Richard Taylor:> I believe Judit said similar things about him. Didn't like his visit at all.>|
Interesting. Thanks. Clearly she had some reservations so to speak.
|Apr-20-14|| ||Richard Taylor: BTW I had a draw in a 2 minute game once with Susan Polgar. She used to be on the WCN "Challenge" and would play players in a list (there were others such as Christiansen etc who also did this).|
I have to say the next time I played I was beaten though!
I suppose 2 minutes is really not "real" chess. Still, it's all fun and games.
|Apr-20-14|| ||Granny O Doul: I played that supposed Fischer guest once on ICC. Ironically, he thought I was Nigel Short.|
|Apr-21-14|| ||Richard Taylor: Interesting. I was on ICC some years back. I played a couple of well known GMs in casual games. I lost of course. |
I did beat one GM once, but again it wasn't a very remarkable game. I played a nice sac but my opponent missed something, was probably tired. Still, bragging rights!
|May-03-14|| ||Caissanist: Susan and her husband Paul Truong seem to have prospered financially as chess coaches the last few years: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...|
|May-03-14|| ||Caissanist: He says his job is "Director of Marketing and PR for SPICE" in a posting he made on susanpolgar.blogspot.com in response to the Post story and another on Fox Sports: http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/201... .|
|May-04-14|| ||offramp: ...The greatest organization in the Universe is SPICE. |
SPICE extends life.
SPICE expands consciousness.
SPICE is vital to space travel.
SPICE's directors use SPICE to give them the ability to fold chess boards. Also to travel to any part of a chess board without moving.
SPICE exists on only one planet in the entire Universe: Earth!!
|Jun-06-14|| ||Nonnus: Why is Le Quang Liem not on the list when So can't beat him?|
|Jun-11-14|| ||HeMateMe: Well, that's certainly interesting. Oni is head coach of a final four team. I think Ms. Polgar said on another page here that Texas Tech had ended all of the chess scholarships, and implied that her own salary was reduced. That's why she left. Oni seems happy there, with whatever arrangements he has made with the school.|
|Jun-11-14|| ||Donkey Cult: <<kramputz>The Arabs are also Semitic, Fisher never hated them. Wiseguy, learn the meaning of words. Keep your sick mind out of this forum> |
Learn the meaning of words, indeed! Check any dictionary and you'll find 'anti-semitism' mean hatred of Jews.
In a movie I once saw a German rationalize his hatred of Jews by using the argument that Arabs are also Semites, therefore he was not anti-semitic. Do yourself a favor and take a look at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antise...
|Jun-11-14|| ||Petrosianic: <kramputz>: <The Arabs are also Semitic, Fisher never hated them. Wiseguy, learn the meaning of words.>|
While we're on the subject of correct usage, learning how to spell Fischer's name might help you defend him a little better.
The dictionary definition of anti-semitic is
<an·ti-Sem·ite (nt-smt, nt-)
One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.>
... so you're 0 for 2 here.
|Jun-11-14|| ||Benzol: Wasn't Abraham suppose to be the father of the Jews and the Arabs?|
|Jun-11-14|| ||WannaBe: <Benzol> Yes, it's a family feud. Different mothers.|
|Jun-11-14|| ||Rookiepawn: Though common usage and dictionaries in many languages define anti-semitism as hatred towards Jews, truth is not all semitic are Jews. The term is rather misleading.|
But of course any kind of racism is feeble minded. It's curious to realize that intelligence has many dimensions: a brain can be brilliant in some areas, and retarded in other. Fischer is a good example.
|Jun-11-14|| ||Benzol: <WannaBe> Perhaps Semitism comes through your mother's RNA?|
|Jun-11-14|| ||WannaBe: <Benzol> funny story, I have a lot of Jewish friends and know the culture and religious practices fairly well.|
I often considered myself as 'quarter Jew'. =))
|Jun-12-14|| ||Travis Bickle: <WannaBe: <Benzol> Yes, it's a family feud. Different mothers.> Hey Bugs wasn't that the Hatfields & McCoys?|
|Jun-12-14|| ||gokusano: <WannaBe: <Benzol> funny story, I have a lot of Jewish friends and know the culture and religious practices fairly well.
I often considered myself as 'quarter Jew'. =))> And three-fourth what? :0)|
|Jun-12-14|| ||HeMateMe: Borat (or someone else) deleted the chess link, just before my above entry, regarding Onischuk leading Texas Tech to the final four of chess. I'm not sure what they are paying him, or who his chess players are, but he must be happy enough with a top level team. The Texas Tech team coached by S. Polgar was extremely deep, with 3 of the world's top 100 on the first three boards. So deep, that their B team was good enough to make the final round of the college chess championships? Or, perhaps Oni did some fancy recruiting and got some transfer students? Maybe TT is giving partial scholarships? These kids are probably all engineering geniuses, and not future chess professionals.|
Oh, here they are, found it:
<Texas Tech team members, in board order, include Grandmaster Yaroslav Zherebukh, a sophomore; Grandmaster Elshan Moradiabadi, a graduate student; International Master Andrey Gorovets, a graduate student; and International Master-Elect Luis Torres, a freshman. International Master-Elect Faik Aleskerov, a graduate student, will travel as an alternate.
Onischuk, a Grandmaster, was one of 12 invited to the U.S. Chess Championship in St. Louis in May. He is a former U.S. Champion and has been one of the world’s 100 top-rated players for the past 17 years.>
Of course, Webster, with that monster team coached by Polgar, won the 2014 national championship.
|Jun-20-14|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: congrats Susan on being awarded the 2013 Symeon Furman Award by FIDE for coaching.|
|Jun-20-14|| ||HeMateMe: Wasn't he Karpov's second, for many years?|
|Jun-20-14|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: @<HMM> Yes, indeed. Furman, I. Zaitsev and Geller were (some of) the Karpov team|
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