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|Apr-14-13|| ||HeMateMe: ...Nakamura too, under this definition. That still leaves Byrne in the top ten, plenty good.|
Robert and Donald Byrne, tough brothers!
Ok, not as tough as the Kray gangsters of mod London, or the Kiletchko chess-boxers, but still...
|Apr-14-13|| ||andrewjsacks: <HeMateMe> Thanks for the follow-up. I always value your comments. You know, Frank J. Marshall was plenty good, too, erratic though he could be... And Isaac Kashdan, for a few years, was a top 5 world player.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||juan31: R.I.P. G.M. R.E. Byrne|
|Apr-14-13|| ||Caissanist: Walter Browne was born in Australia to an American father and Australian mother, and moved to the USA when he was two. I would say he is "American born and bred".|
|Apr-15-13|| ||kingscrusher: A very credible 70% in the 1952 Olympiad beating Bronstein in this team tournament :|
|Apr-15-13|| ||FSR: Video tributes to Byrne by IM Andrew Martin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdaJ... and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZIy...|
|Apr-15-13|| ||plang: I was a big fan of his Chess Column. It has not been the same since he retired in 2006.|
|Apr-15-13|| ||Karpova: Tribute by Andrew Martin: http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId...|
|Apr-15-13|| ||FSR: <plang: I was a big fan of his Chess Column. It has not been the same since he retired in 2006.>|
You got that right. Apparently the NYT picked his not-all-that-worthy successor because the guy was already on the NYT's staff and knew something about chess. http://gambit.blogs.nytimes.com/200... Probably that meant that the Times didn't have to pay him anything beyond his already-existing salary. (He is a FIDE Master. http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?...)
|Apr-15-13|| ||andrewjsacks: <FSR> In the L.A. area, we have seen a similar sorry phenomenon. The L.A. Times chess column was run excellently by IM Jack Peters for years (after GM Jim Tarjan declined the offered post). A couple of years ago, Peters lost the column and it is now a syndicated piece each week, saving the Times the salary of Peters for a small fraction of the cost to them, and virtually no local news, and poor in international chess news, and is, more broadly, a sad commentary on the decline of the newspaper business because of all the online factors.|
|Apr-15-13|| ||keresfan: RIP Robert Byrne.|
|Apr-16-13|| ||FSR: <andrewsjacks> My aunt, who is a law professor at UCLA, sent me some of Jack Peters' columns over the years. He was an excellent columnist. Ditto with Kavalek, who used to write for the Washington Post. It's sad what's happening to newspapers.|
|Apr-16-13|| ||perfidious: With Kavalek out at the Post, does anyone write for them now?|
<FSR> and <andrew>: I'll sign that-print media in general have been in decline for about ten years now, with the advertising side of things taking a beating and serving as the impetus in a vicious cycle.
|Apr-16-13|| ||wordfunph: "I learned that the ones who frown and squirm are the ones who are the most dangerous."|
- GM Robert Byrne
rest in peace, GM Robert Eugene Byrne..
|Apr-20-13|| ||chesswar1000: Happy Birthday Mr. Byrne...|
|Jul-04-13|| ||talisman: happy birthday....R.I.P.|
|Jul-04-13|| ||Caissanist: Nobody writes about chess for the WP anymore so far as I know, but Kavalek still writes a chess column online, every two weeks for the Huffington Post. It's very good.|
|Jul-05-13|| ||hudapri: RIP - There's a cover story in this month's Chess Life (USCF magazine).|
|Jul-05-13|| ||HeMateMe: Was R. Byrne a lifelong smoker, like his late brother Donald Byrne? I saw a photo of Robert B. smoking, and it looked fairly current. Of course every smoker doesn't get cancer but it can't help your health. Donald Byrne died young. he was a chain smoker.|
|Jul-05-13|| ||JoergWalter: <HeMateMe: Donald Byrne died young. he was a chain smoker.>|
Byrne died in Philadelphia of complications arising from lupus.
|Mar-21-14|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: Very interesting the discussion about the couple of male sibling who are the strongest all time in chess? I would like to mention another couple: the Bolbochan brothers, they could be above Byrne brothers because, if you see chessmetrics they were 13 and 18 of the world at his best and, the Byrne brothers were : 11 and 38. Other side, Is clear the advantage for the Lasker brothers first and seventh in the world at his best !!|
|Mar-21-14|| ||Petrosianic: Just to be clear, you're talking bout Emanuel and Berthold here, not Emanuel and Edward. (Ed Lasker was only distantly related).|
Yeah, you're right. Berthold Lasker does show him peaking at #7, but he played VERY little, for a very short period of time, almost exclusively in Berlin. A lot of people don't even know he existed. I wouldn't think of the Laskers as a brother team on a par with the Byrnes or even the Bolbochans.
Of course, going just by the rankings, you've got a point.
|Mar-21-14|| ||Petrosianic: Berthold Lasker is the Gummo Marx of chess...|
|Apr-15-14|| ||Benzol: The following game was played over Memorial Day at the Buckeye Open in 1963. Robert Byrne scored 7 1/2 - 1/2.|
I have the sneaky suspicion that Byrne's opponent was Ivan Theodorovich
[Event "Buckeye Open"]
[Site "?, USA"]
[White "Byrne, Robert Eugene"]
1. d4 g6 2. c4 Bg7 3. Nc3 d6 4. Nf3 e5 5. g3 Nc6 6. d5 Nce7
7. Bg2 Nf6 8. O-O O-O 9. b4 Ne8 10. Bb2 h6 11. Qb3 f5 12. Rfd1 g5 13. c5 Ng6
14. a4 g4 15. Nd2 h5 16. Nc4 h4 17. a5 Rf7 18. b5 Bf8 19. b6 dxc5 20. Nb5 axb6
21. axb6 Rxa1 22. Rxa1 h3 23. Bh1 Bd7 24. bxc7 Nxc7 25. Nxc7 Qxc7 26. d6 Bxd6
27. Bd5 Nh8 28. Rd1 Be8 29. Nxd6 Qxd6 30. Bxf7+ Bxf7 31. Rxd6 Bxb3 32. Rd8+ Kh7
33. Rd7+ Kg6 34. Rxb7 Be6 35. Bxe5 Nf7 36. Rb6 1-0
|Apr-15-14|| ||perfidious: <Paul> That would not be at all surprising, though so far I have found nothing to confirm this.|
My guess is that the Buckeye Open was held in Ohio, as implied by the name, but this is another uncorroborated assertion.
Eight rounds over three (or possibly four) days. Reminds me of an event or two I played, ca 1972-73, with a Friday evening round, three on Saturday and two Sunday.
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