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| HeMateMe: Larry Evans and Bill Lombardy seconded Bobby Fischer at times. He would never have beaten Spassky without their 'personal training'. |
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| Oct-11-09 |
| abcpokerboy: <Hehateme>, I'm not quite sure what the source of your antipathy for Kasparov is, but am I to assume that you think Carlsen is smart enough to become World chess champion, yet too naive to understand if Kasparov is ripping him off for personal services? Also, Evans and Lombardy were clearly inferior players to Fischer. Not so with Kasparov and Carlsen Perhaps Carlsen is getting his moneys worth; I'm guessing he understands that better than you do. |
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Oct-11-09
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| HeMateMe: I was just referring to one of the above postings, on the back of a book someone is trying to sell, stating that "Kasparov is the personal trainer of Magnus Carlsen." It implies that Kasparov is responsible for much more than he can really take credit for. GK will contribute a few brainstorming sessions; if Carlsen ever had a 'personal trainer', it might be a handful of Norway's top players who assisted MC during his formative chess years, when he was a very young teenager. I'm a big fan of Kasparov and his amazing career, but I think he is sort of 'riding the gravy train' here, keeping himself in the public eye by attaching himself to clearly the most interesting player in the game today. Carlsen and his father are not naive; they can see why a former champion, who has never been short on ego, would do this. As you say, they can share the glory for a bit of Kaspy's insights, which I think are only marginally going to make a difference in MC's meteoric rise; he was headed in that direction anyway. That you see this differently is certainly your perogative. |
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| Oct-12-09 |
| Riverbeast: <carlsen's record against radjabov is <better> than kasparov's record> I think you're cherry picking statistics.
Did you compare their relative records against Topalov and Anand (who are the two players Carlsen really needs to leapfrog these days)? There were a lot of teenagers who had 'meteoric rises' and were pegged as future world champions, and didn't make it. To say that Carlsen will be an automatic World Champion, and Kasparov is just along for the ride, is simplifying things a bit. In fact, now that everyone has already been handing the crown to Carlsen for years, Carlsen must be feeling even more pressure to win the World Championship...Anything less than that will be a failure in many people's eyes. A lot of people here seem to hate Kasparov, and don't want to give him a shred of credit...But I'm sure Kasparov is contributing SOMETHING to Carlsen's success, both psychologically and in terms of preparation. And if Carlsen ever plays a World Championship match against Topalov or Anand, Kasparov will be able to help him even more.....Carlsen has never experienced that kind of high pressure match |
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Oct-12-09
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| rogge: <But I'm sure Kasparov is contributing SOMETHING to Carlsen's success, both psychologically and in terms of preparation.> Obviously. Carlsen said so himself. |
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| Oct-13-09 |
| Everett: Kasparov is opportunistic, certainly. He ma even have a heart in there as well. But when it comes to chess, he's as cuthroat as they come. As far as the strength of various trainers, after a point it seems to matter little. All the greats, by necessity, are much better than their trainers, yet the trainers are still necessary. Kasparov's role here is an exception. Examples include Zaitzev, Furman, Bondarevsky, Koblentz and Nikitin. |
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Oct-13-09
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| whatthefat: Not to mention Dvoretsky. |
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| Oct-13-09 |
| Riverbeast: Training is one thing...Getting practical advice on beating your main rivals, from a guy who beat them pretty regularly, is entirely different. Check out Kasparovs' head-to-head record against Anand (the current world champion...who Carlsen has a losing record against, and recently said "is a better player than me")....And then decide if Nikitin, Dvoretzky, et al could offer the same kind of advice or insights <But when it comes to chess, he's as cuthroat as they come> Of course Kasparov's a little cutthroat...You don't dominate an ego-driven game like chess the way Kasparov did without being something of an egotist, and having a killer instinct yourself! Carlsen seems like a nice kid, and pretty personable...But I'm sure he's got a killer instinct of his own in there.... |
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| Oct-13-09 |
| Everett: Carlsen is plenty strong, and with the right trainer (Kasparov or whoever) he will realize his potential. But, please, Kasparov is not the only one with the ability to guide Carlsen to the top. Furman had not beaten the top players of his day, but his influence on Bronstein, Korchnoi, and Karpov turned each of those players into beasts. Bronstein took Furman has his second for Gothenburg 1955, and proceeded to crush the competition.
Bronstein vs Keres, 1955
Bronstein vs J H Donner, 1955
Unzicker vs Bronstein, 1955
Bronstein vs Geller, 1955
Bronstein vs Sliwa, 1955
Bronstein vs Panno, 1955
Bronstein vs Stahlberg, 1955
Bronstein vs A Fuderer, 1955
And it remains to be seen how smoothly it will all go for these two... |
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| Oct-14-09 |
| SimonWebbsTiger: some ppl might wish to watch the following
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKEn...
Seems pretty clear what Garry does with Magnus: experience, advice, training efficiently and some fresh opening ideas. |
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| Oct-14-09 |
| akapovsky: Did the guy in the video say that kasparov just took off his glases??And looked like botvinnik with them on?? |
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Oct-15-09
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| suenteus po 147: Here's another impressive tournament won by young Kasparov (before he was WC): Game Collection: Niksic 1983 |
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| Oct-18-09 |
| squlpt: Did Fischer really say this about Kasparov years ago? They're claiming that this criminal Jew Garry Kasparov -- his real name is Garry Weinstein -- is the World Champion. Which he's not, in any way. He's a common crook. He should be in prison. He should be in prison for his crimes. He has pre-arranged, in his life, thousands of games. Thousands of games. Every single tournament or match game he's ever played with Karpov was pre-arranged. Every @#$%*!& game, and it was pre-arranged move by move. He is a crook on a big scale." ~ Bobby Fischer |
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| Oct-18-09 |
| SafeNorSound: <They're claiming that this criminal Jew Garry Kasparov -- his real name is Garry Weinstein -- is the World Champion. Which he's not, in any way. He's a common crook. He should be in prison. He should be in prison for his crimes. He has pre-arranged, in his life, thousands of games. Thousands of games. Every single tournament or match game he's ever played with Karpov was pre-arranged. Every @#$%*!& game, and it was pre-arranged move by move. He is a crook on a big scale." ~ Bobby Fischer> I think that Fischer should have challenged Kasparov... : ) |
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Oct-18-09
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| HeMateMe: I think the above comment is why Fischer died largely friendless in the USA. These kinds of commments will also kill any sort of Fischer Memoria tournament for years to come. Maybe if a wealthy patron puts up the money, it could happen. But big time, big prize money chess usually means corporate sponsorship, and that might not happen for Bobby for years to come. |
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| Oct-18-09 |
| Shams: Is it still news to people that Fischer was paranoid and not sane? |
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Oct-19-09
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| HeMateMe: I think Kasparov's political party got killed in the recent elections in russia, maybe not even 1% of delegates to the Duma, or the newest version of it. |
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| Oct-19-09 |
| Ken Ji jun: Chess Looneys are losers!!! No matter how genius you are in chess but once right faculties desert your gray matters and stuff, you are done!
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk... |
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Oct-19-09
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| HeMateMe: "chess looneys"....is that redundant? |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| siamesedream: Kasparov simul in Antwerp:
http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/s... |
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| Nov-11-09 |
| Hayasa: Interview with Kasparov by schaaknet
http://www.schaaknet.blogspot.com/ |
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Nov-12-09
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| HeMateMe: Russian speakers........"Geri Kimovich"--Is that like calling someone named 'Smith' Shmitty, or 'Olsen' Olley? |
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| Nov-12-09 |
| Budo: Nyet. It's like calling Fischer "Roberto Jaime." |
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Nov-12-09
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| HeMateMe: thanks, Budyenko |
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| Nov-12-09 |
| Budo: Nyet problema, HeMateMescha |
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