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Garry Kasparov
Number of games in database: 2,348
Years covered: 1973 to 2012
Last FIDE rating: 2812
Highest rating achieved in database: 2851
Overall record: +785 -118 =771 (69.9%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      674 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (192) 
    B30 B40 B31 B50 B33
 Ruy Lopez (102) 
    C92 C84 C97 C67 C80
 Nimzo Indian (86) 
    E32 E34 E21 E20 E46
 Queen's Gambit Declined (81) 
    D37 D31 D35 D30 D38
 Queen's Indian (80) 
    E12 E15 E17 E16
 Slav (62) 
    D19 D10 D15 D11 D17
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (343) 
    B90 B84 B82 B83 B22
 King's Indian (158) 
    E92 E97 E76 E60 E75
 Sicilian Najdorf (112) 
    B90 B92 B97 B93 B96
 Grunfeld (98) 
    D85 D97 D76 D78 D87
 Sicilian Scheveningen (69) 
    B84 B82 B83 B80 B81
 English (34) 
    A15 A10 A11 A13
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Kasparov vs Topalov, 1999 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1985 0-1
   Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1994 1-0
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1994 0-1
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990 1-0
   Kasparov vs Anand, 1995 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1993 0-1
   Kasparov vs Portisch, 1983 1-0
   Adams vs Kasparov, 2005 0-1
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1986 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1984)
   Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1985)
   Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Rematch (1986)
   Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1987)
   Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1990)
   Kasparov-Short World Championship Match (1993)
   Kasparov-Anand World Championship Match (1995)
   Kasparov-Kramnik World Championship Match (2000)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Linares (1994)
   10th Euwe Memorial (1996)
   Tilburg Fontys (1997)
   Linares (1997)
   Linares (1999)
   Wijk aan Zee Corus (2000)
   Sarajevo (2000)
   Astana (2001)
   Bled Olympiad (2002)
   European Clubs Cup (Men) (2003)
   Russian Championships 2004 (2004)
   XXII Torneo Ciudad de Linares (2005)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Garry Kasparov's Best Games by KingG
   Kasparov's super simuls by crawfb5
   Match Kasparov! by amadeus
   senakash's favorite games by senakash
   Size GAZA by lonchaney
   kasparov best games by brager
   senakash's favorite games qgd by senakash
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 1990-1999 (Part 3) by Anatoly21
   KASPAROV GAMES by gambitfan
   Road to the Championship - Garry Kasparov (I) by Fischer of Men
   senakash's favorite games mini by senakash
   senakash's favorite games garry by senakash
   Garry Kasparov's Greatest Chess Games (Stohl) by AdrianP
   senakash's favorite games ruylopez by senakash

GAMES ANNOTATED BY KASPAROV: [what is this?]
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987
   Kasparov vs Igor Ivanov, 1978

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GARRY KASPAROV
(born Apr-13-1963) Azerbaijan (citizen of Russia)

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One of the greatest players of all time, Kasparov was undisputed World Champion from 1985 until 1993, and Classical World Champion from 1993 until 2000. Known to chess fans world wide as the <Beast From Baku> on account of his aggressive and highly successful style of play, his main early influence was the combative and combinative style of play displayed by Alexander Alekhine.

Early Years

Originally named Garry Kimovich Weinstein (or Weinshtein), he was born in Baku, in what was then the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic (now the Republic of Azerbaijan), and is the son of Klara Shagenovna Kasparova and Kim Moiseyevich Weinstein. At five years old, young Garry Weinstein taught himself how to play chess from watching his relatives solve chess puzzles in a newspaper. His immense natural talent was soon realized and from age 7, he attended the Young Pioneer Palace in Baku (where for some time he was known as "Garry Bronstein".*). At 10, he began training at the Mikhail Botvinnik Soviet chess school. He was first coached by Vladimir Andreevich Makogonov and later by Alexander Shakarov. Five years after his father's untimely death from leukaemia, the twelve year old chess prodigy adopted the Russian-sounding name Garry Kasparov (Kas-PARE-off) a reference to his mother's Armenian maiden name, Gasparyan (or Kasparian).

Championships

Junior Twelve-year old Kasparov won the Soviet Junior Championship, held in Tbilisi in 1976 scoring 7/9, and repeated his success in 1977, winning with a score of 8˝ of 9. The next several years were spent marking his rise as a world-class talent. He became World Junior Champion in 1980 in Dortmund, the same year he earned the grandmaster title.

National He first qualified for the Soviet Chess Championship at age 15 in 1978, the youngest ever player at that level. He won the 64-player Swiss system tournament at Daugavpils on tiebreak over Igor Vasilievich Ivanov, to capture the sole qualifying place. He was joint Soviet Champion in 1980-81 with Lev Psakhis ** and in 1988 Kasparov and Anatoly Karpov tied in the Super-Soviet Championship***. In 2004, Garry Kasparov won the Russian Championships 2004 (2004) with a stunning +5 score.

World On the basis of his result in the 1981 Soviet Championship, which doubled as a zonal tournament for the USSR region, he earned a place in the 1982 Moscow Interzonal tournament, which he won, to qualify for the Candidates Tournament matches that were held in 1983 and 1984. At age 19, he was the youngest Candidate since Robert James Fischer, who was 15 when he qualified in 1958. At this stage, he was already the #2-rated player in the world, trailing only world champion Karpov on the January 1983 list. These Candidates matches were the first and last Candidates matches Kasparov contested, as he declined to participate in the Candidates held under the auspices of the PCA in 2002 to decide a challenger to his successor as classical World Champion, Vladimir Kramnik. Kasparov's first Candidates match in Moscow was a best-of-ten affair against Alexander Beliavsky, whom he defeated 6–3 (+4 -1 =4). After much political ado, Kasparov defeated Viktor Korchnoi in London in the best-of-12 semi-final match by 7–4 (+4 -1 =6), and in early 1984 in Vilnius he defeated former World Champion Vasily Smyslov in the best-of-16 finals played by 8.5-4.5 (+4 =9 -0) to earn his challenge against Karpov. By the time the match with Smyslov was played, Kasparov had become the number-one ranked player in the world with a FIDE rating of 2710. He became the youngest ever world number-one, a record that lasted 12 years until being broken by Vladimir Kramnik in January 1996 and again by his former pupil, Magnus Carlsen in 2010.

At one stage during the Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1984), Kasparov trailed 5-0 in the first-to-win-6 match. He then fought back to win three games and bring the score to 5–3 in Karpov's favour after 48 games, making it the longest world championship match ever. At that point, the match was ended without result by the then FIDE President, the late Florencio Campomanes, with Karpov thus retaining the title. Further details can be found in the match link at the head of this paragraph. Kasparov won the best-of-24 games Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1985) in Moscow by 13–11, winning the 24th and last game with Black. He was then 22, the youngest ever World Champion, and broke the record held by Mikhail Tal for over 20 years. Karpov exercised his right to a rematch, the Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Rematch (1986), which took place in 1986, hosted jointly in London and Leningrad, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov scored of 12˝–11˝, retaining the title. The fourth match, the Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1987) in Seville. Karpov had been directly seeded into and won the final match of the Candidates' Matches to again become the official challenger. Kasparov retained his title by winning the final game and drawing the match 12–12. The fifth and last championship match between the two, Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1990), was held in New York and Lyon in 1990, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov won by 12˝–11˝. In their five world championship matches, the combined game tally was +21 -19 =104 in Kasparov’s favour.

Kasparov subsequently defended his title against Nigel Short under the auspices of the PCA in 1993, and against Viswanathan Anand in 1995. Five years later, in 2000 (Kasparov-Kramnik World Championship Match (2000)), Kasparov finally relinquished his crown to his former student, Vladimir Kramnik who was granted the right to challenge without having to qualify, the first time this had happened since 1935, when Alexander Alekhine selected Max Euwe as his challenger. Subsequently, Kasparov remained the top rated player in the world, ahead of both Kramnik and the FIDE World Champions, on the strength of a series of wins in major tournaments.

Under the "Prague Agreement” which was put together by Yasser Seirawan to reunite the two titles, Kasparov was to play a match against the 2002 FIDE World Champion Ruslan Ponomariov in September 2003. But this match was cancelled when Ponomariov was dissatisfied with the terms of the contract. Subsequent plans for a match against 2004 FIDE World Champion Rustam Kasimdzhanov, to be held in January 2005 in the United Arab Emirates fell through due to lack of funding. Shortly after this, Kasparov announced his retirement from competitive chess.

In an interview in 2007, Kasparov said that <…my decision in 1993 to break away from the world chess federation, FIDE, with Nigel Short was the worst mistake of my career. It was a serious miscalculation on my part. I thought we could start fresh with a professional organisation, but there was little support among the players. It led to short-term progress in commercial sponsorship for chess, but in the long run hurt the game...> ****

Classical Tournaments

In 1978, Kasparov won the Sokolsky Memorial tournament in Minsk as a wild card entry, a victory which convinced Kasparov he could aim for the World Championship. He played in a grandmaster tournament in Banja Luka, Yugoslavia in 1979 while still unrated, due to Korchnoi’s withdrawal. He took first place with an undefeated record, two points ahead of the field. Game Collection: Banja Luka 1979 He emerged with a provisional rating of 2595, immediately landing at world number 15, a feat only surpassed by Gata Kamsky in July 1990. His first win in a superclass-level international tournament was scored at Bugojno, Yugoslavia in 1982 and his win in Linares in 2002 is the tenth victory in a record for the most consecutive victories in super tournaments: Linares 4 (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, Wijk aan Zee 3 (1999, 2000, 2001), Sarajevo 2 (1999, 2000) and Astana 1 (2001). Kasparov also holds the record for most consecutive professional tournament victories, placing first or equal first in 15 individual tournaments from 1981 to 1990. It started with the 1981 USSR Championship and finished in Linares in 1990. His five epic title matches against Karpov were held during this period. Subsequently, Kasparov won Linares again in 1992, 1993, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2005, the latter being his swan song from the game.

Olympiads

Kasparov played in eight Olympiads. He represented the Soviet Union four times, in 1980, 1982, 1986 and 1988, and Russia four times: in 1992, 1994, 1996 and 2002 playing board 1 on each occasion apart from 1980 (2nd reserve) and 1982 (2nd board). In 82 games, he scored (+50 =29 -3), for 78.7% and won a total of 19 medals, including 8 team gold medals, 5 board golds, 2 performance golds, 2 performance silvers and 2 board bronzes. Kasparov also represented the USSR once in Youth Olympiad competition at Graz in 1981, when he played board 1 for the USSR board 1, scoring 9/10 (+8 =2 -0), the team winning the gold medal.

Team chess

Kasparov made his international teams debut for the USSR at age 16 in the 1980 European Team Championship at Skara and played for Russia in the 1992 edition of that championship. He won a total of five medals including at Skara 1980, as USSR 2nd reserve, 5˝/6 (+5 =1 -0), team gold, board gold and at Debrecen 1992, Russia board 1, 6/8 (+4 =4 -0), team gold, board gold, performance silver.

Matches

<Computer> Kasparov defeated the chess computer Deep Thought (Computer) in both games of a two-game match in 1989. In February 1996, he defeated IBM's chess computer Deep Blue (Computer) with three wins and two draws and one loss. In 1997, an updated version of Deep Blue defeated Kasparov 3˝–2˝ in a highly publicised six-game match. The match was even after five games but Kasparov lost Game 6 - Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997 - to lose the match. This was the first time a computer had ever defeated a world champion in match play. In January 2003, he played and drew a six game FIDE Man-Machine WC (2003) match against Deep Junior (Computer). In November 2003, he played and drew a four-game Man-Machine World Chess Championship (2003) against the computer program X3D Fritz (Computer) X3D Fritz, although he was constrained through the use of a virtual board, 3D glasses and a speech recognition system.

<Human – classical> Kasparov played several matches apart from his matches in the World Championship cycles. Full details can be seen at Game Collection: Match Kasparov!.

<Human – rapid> In 1998, Kasparov played a blitz match against Kramnik in Moscow, that match being drawn +7-7=10. He fared better in the 2000 internet blitz match against Judit Polgar, winning one and drawing one. The following year, he played a blitz match against the many times Greek speed chess champion Hristos Banikas of Greece, winning 5 and drawing one. In his 2002 blitz against Elisabeth Paehtz in Munich, he won 6-0. Later in 2002, Kasparov lost a four game rapid match (+1 -2 =1) over two days in December 2002 in New York City against Anatoly Karpov. In 2009 in Valencia, Spain, he again played Karpov, and won the Kasparov-Karpov Rapid Match (2009) 3-1 and the Kasparov-Karpov Blitz Match (2009) by 6-2. In 2011, as part of his Chess In Schools campaign, he played a two game Kasparov-Lagrave Blitz Match (2011) in Clichy France, winning by 1.5-0.5. A few months later in October 2011, he won the Kasparov-Short Blitz Match (2011) 4.5-3.5 (+3 -2 =3), breaking the deadlock after game 7 by winning game 8 to win the match.

<Simuls> In 1985, Kasparov played his first simul against a team, the Hamburg Bundesliga team lead by GM Murray Chandler, and lost 3.5-4.5, the first and only time he lost a simul against a team. In 1987, he played a simul against the same albeit slightly stronger team, but this time he was prepared and crushed the Hamburg players 7-1; later in 1987 he also crushed the Swiss team: Game Collection: Kasparov vs Swiss Team Simul by 5.5-0.5, drawing only with former World Junior Champion Werner Hug. In 1988 he played a simul against the French team in Evry (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul), winning 4, drawing one and losing one; he played the French team again in 1989 (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul 1989), this time winning three and drawing 3 games. Also in 1988 he played a simul against a group of powerful US Juniors, and won by 4-2 (+3 -1 =2)*****. In 1992, Kasparov played a clock simul against the German team ( Game Collection: Kasparov vs German National Team Simul) which included former title contender Vlastimil Hort with whom he drew, winning 2 and drawing 2. He played a simul against the Argentinean team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Argentinian Team Simul) winning (+7 -1 =4); in 1998 he played the Israeli team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Israeli National Team Simul) winning 7-1, and in 2001 he played the Czech team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Czech National Team Simul) in Prague, winning by +4 -1 =3.

Rating

Kasparov's ratings achievements include being rated world #1 according to Elo rating almost continuously from 1986 until his retirement in 2005. He was the world number-one ranked player for 255 months, a record that far outstrips all other previous and current number-one ranked players. Kasparov had the highest Elo rating in the world continuously from 1986 to 2005. However, Vladimir Kramnik equaled him in the January 1996 FIDE ratings list, technically supplanting him because he played more games. He was also briefly ejected from the list following his split from FIDE in 1993, but during that time he headed the rating list of the rival PCA. At the time of his retirement, he was still ranked #1 in the world, with a rating of 2812. In January 1990 Kasparov achieved the (then) highest FIDE rating ever, passing 2800 and breaking Bobby Fischer's old record of 2785. On the July 1999 and January 2000 FIDE rating lists Kasparov reached a 2851 Elo rating, which became the highest rating ever achieved until surpassed by Magnus Carlsen in 2013. There was a time in the early 1990s when Kasparov was over 2800 and the only person in the 2700s was Anatoly Karpov.

Other

Under Kasparov's tutelage, Carlsen became the youngest ever to achieve a FIDE rating higher than 2800, and the youngest ever world number one. Kasparov also assisted Anand’s preparation for the Anand-Topalov World Chess Championship (2010) against challenger Veselin Topalov. Since his retirement, Kasparov has concentrated much of his time and energy in Russian politics. He is also a prolific author, most famously his <My Great Predecessors> series. His politics and authorship are discussed at some detail in the wiki article and at his official website cited below. In 2007, he was ranked 25th in The Daily Telegraph's list of 100 greatest living geniuses and has won 11 Chess Oscars.

Kasparov has been married three times: first to Masha, with whom he had a daughter, Polina (b. 1993), before divorcing; to Yulia, with whom he had a son, Vadim (b. 1996) before their 2005 divorce; and to Daria, with whom he also has a daughter, Aida (b. 2006).

Biography: http://www.kasparovagent.com/garry_... Kasparov’s official website: http://kasparov.com/ Kasparov Chess Foundation: http://www.kasparovchessfoundation.... ]

* http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2/...; ** [rusbase-1]; *** [rusbase-2]; **** [rusbase-3]; ***** http://www.chessbase.com/newsprint....

Wikipedia article: Kasparov


 page 1 of 94; games 1-25 of 2,348  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Kasparov vs S Muratkuliev 1-032 1973 Baku tt U18C77 Ruy Lopez
2. Kasparov vs O Vasilchenko 1-040 1973 KievC03 French, Tarrasch
3. E Kengis vs Kasparov ½-½54 1973 Vilnius LTUB88 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin Attack
4. E Magerramov vs Kasparov 0-135 1973 BakuB54 Sicilian
5. Kasparov vs Averbakh 1-048 1974 Moscow clock simC68 Ruy Lopez, Exchange
6. Kasparov vs Polugaevsky ½-½25 1975 LeningradB40 Sicilian
7. Kasparov vs Gorelov 1-058 1975 BakuC61 Ruy Lopez, Bird's Defense
8. E Vladimirov vs Kasparov ½-½30 1975 VilniusE17 Queen's Indian
9. Kasparov vs Smyslov 0-130 1975 Team GM/Young PioneersC60 Ruy Lopez
10. Tilichkin vs Kasparov 0-143 1975 BakuB87 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin with ...a6 and ...b5
11. Kasparov vs Yurtaev 0-144 1975 BakuB39 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto, Breyer Variation
12. Rizvonov vs Kasparov 0-137 1975 VilniusE17 Queen's Indian
13. Kasparov vs Yermolinsky 0-148 1975 BakuB05 Alekhine's Defense, Modern
14. Korchnoi vs Kasparov ½-½42 1975 Palace of Pioneers sim.E80 King's Indian, Samisch Variation
15. Einoris vs Kasparov 0-142 1975 BakuB59 Sicilian, Boleslavsky Variation, 7.Nb3
16. Kasparov vs Yermolinsky 0-148 1975 LeningradB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
17. Dvoirys vs Kasparov ½-½45 1975 BakuB89 Sicilian
18. Kasparov vs B Kantsler 1-032 1975 Junior competitionC00 French Defense
19. Kasparov vs A Sokolov 1-032 1975 BakuB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
20. Karpov vs Kasparov 1-045 1975 LeningradB92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky Variation
21. Kasparov vs E Kengis ½-½27 1975 BakuB52 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
22. O Pavlenko vs Kasparov 0-134 1975 BakuE71 King's Indian, Makagonov System (5.h3)
23. Yurtaev vs Kasparov 0-146 1976 TbilisiB22 Sicilian, Alapin
24. A Velibekov vs Kasparov 1-023 1976 MoscowB84 Sicilian, Scheveningen
25. L Eolian vs Kasparov 0-133 1976 Soviet UnionB96 Sicilian, Najdorf
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Kasparov on Kasparov: Part I

Kibitzer's Corner
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Feb-20-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  AnalyzeThis: There wasn't a grandmaster, anywhere in the world in 1975, who thought that Karpov would be favored to beat Fischer.

Not one.

Feb-20-11  shach matov: <AnalyzeThis>

so how do you explain the fact that fisher ran away from a rematch with karpov? karpov challenged him openly but fisher refused. this looks like fisher was afraid of karpov. if he wasn't he would play and prove himself.

Let me repeat: fischer may in no way be considered as one of the greatest players ever: he was dominant for only a couple of years and then simply ran away from playing the best players at the time.

now whether he ran away because of being afraid or because of mental problems (or the combination of the two) is not important: the fact is that for one reason or another he did not prove his ability to defend the title and stay dominant for at least 10 years. on the other hand karpov has proved himself over many years of domination, and thus he has earned his place in the greatest ever list.

Feb-20-11  micartouse: <fab4: Most of it from silicon.>

This makes no sense. At the time Kasparov became the number one player, computers were weak players, and he routinely smashed them. Computers in the 80's weren't qualified to teach Kasparov how to play chess.

The most important ingredient to Kasparov's outstanding career was probably his tactical talent.

Feb-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  pawn to QB4: <There wasn't a grandmaster, anywhere in the world in 1975, who thought that Karpov would be favored to beat Fischer.> As best I recall, this is true, although they hedged their bets with things like "the Fischer of 1972, if he still exists" and I recall the question of whether he'd play in '75 being raised soon after the match with Spassky. Sadly, such hedgings turned out to be the way things went.

In the context of the daft claim by fab4 that only people who know little about chess would say that Karpov was a greater player than Fischer, the point that Fischer would have started favourite in '75 is not decisive. Karpov was 23 and went on to have a great career. By the late 70s we can find people who thought it was already too late for Fischer. The one I remember is Barden commenting that "if the match was held now, Karpov would smash Fischer" - taking into account Karpov's tournament run and Fischer's continued absence and health concerns. That Karpov's total achievement outweighs that of Fischer is a matter for debate, but it's a view held by many strong players.

Feb-21-11
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  HeMateMe: Had Fischer played in '75 and afterwards, I think he would have had a run typical of most great players. If he was active after '72, and sharp, he would have beaten Karpov in '75. A rematch in '78? I think, a toss of the coin. Fischer is then 35, an age when players start to lose just a little of their edge, and Karpov is much improved with 3 years of high level tournament experience. By '78, if they play, Karpov wins.

This follows the trajectory of players like Petrosian, Spassky and Botvinnik, being off peak by their mid 30s and losing the title.

I know there are exceptions--Anand for one. But most likely, Fischer would have had one or two successful title defenses, and then lost the crown. Maybe its a different scenario if its not a Karpov or Kasparov hot on his heels.

Feb-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  pawn to QB4: I think that sounds reasonable, HeMateMe. Had Fischer carried on playing and studying with his earlier intensity, personally I'd make him favourite in '75 and '78 as well - but sadly it's meaningless, keeping at it and showing up is part of who you are as a player. The lack of Fischer - Karpov games is a shame, still more the lack of Fischer - Kasparov games.
Feb-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  KingG: <fab4> <Most of it from silicon.> Thanks for conclusively proving you don't know anything about chess.
Feb-21-11  Kazzak: These "games that never happened" grudge matches are a strange fascination to a sub-set of chess followers.

They are rarely supported by actual evidence, beyond the "Is!" "Is not!" "Is!" "Is not! So there!" level.

Feb-21-11  Kazzak: Mig raises the edge of the cloak a touch over at DailyDirt:

<Ironically, after receiving the initial draft of the Garry's review, the NYRB's only substantial request was to add more about Fischer's chess!>

More matter, less artful self-reflection?

Feb-21-11  SimonWebbsTiger: @King G

you write:

"his [Karpov] Ruy Lopez games, where he usually closed the center with d4-d5, are more relevant to current practise than Fischer's." I find that a little mysterious!

Taking on c5/d5 was, of course, considered the most dangerous plan in the Main Line Closed Ruy Lopez when Fischer was playing, having been developed by the Soviets in the 30s, because Rubinstein had developed a Knight manouvre of Nc6-d8-f7 and Nf6-e8-g7 in those d4-d5 positions.

Two particular games which come to mind, where Fischer didn't get much, were RJF-O'Kelly, 1970
Fischer vs O'Kelly, 1970 (22...Nc5!= John Watson)

and RJF-Kholmov, 1965
Fischer vs Kholmov, 1965

Karpov found the way to boss black about in his famous win against Unzicker, 1974 Karpov vs Unzicker, 1974

And so we have a tale of theory developing and the greats, being avante garde, contributing to it.

Fischer's games are important even now as they provide useful tabiya which one must know to play the Ruy Lopez well with both colours.

I am also reminded of what Gernod Beckhuis wrote in his survey in New in Chess Yearbook 89. He had prepared a Main Line Closed Lopez for a game against Gennady Timoschenko -- he wrote that he had spent time studying Fischer games to understand how to handle different positions.

Feb-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  KingG: <Karpov found the way to boss black about in his famous win against Unzicker, 1974 Karpov vs Unzicker, 1974> Karpov had shown his fondness for closing the center in such positions long before then. For example Karpov vs Nedelin, 1961 or Karpov vs Ulf Andersson, 1969. There are many other examples as well.

<Taking on c5/d5 was, of course, considered the most dangerous plan in the Main Line Closed Ruy Lopez when Fischer was playing, having been developed by the Soviets in the 30s, because Rubinstein had developed a Knight manouvre of Nc6-d8-f7 and Nf6-e8-g7 in those d4-d5 positions.> Yes I know, but nevertheless around that time Karpov was closing the center, which proved to be the better plan.

<Fischer's games are important even now as they provide useful tabiya which one must know to play the Ruy Lopez well with both colours.> I don't deny that Fischer's games are still important to study, and we should be aware of all possible plans, even those that might not currently be in fashion(and of course in some lines exchanging on e5 or c5 might still be the best plan).

Feb-21-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  BLarsen1967: <fab4><Kasparov , whatever he writes , will ALWAYS impress on Karpov regarding RJF... as an historian he would be considered a tainted source...> Kasparov just made a statement,it's nothing more than a statement,and you're completely free to disagree. - But wouldnt it be possible relating to the statement ITSELF,on its own level,instead of jumping straight into one more dubious weird conspiracy theory? To say Karpov was a greater player than Fischer is a legitimate judgement,of course the point is debatable. Why get so upset?
Feb-21-11
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  SetNoEscapeOn: True, both public and expert opinion had Fischer as the favorite in 1975, and for good reason. Still, if Karpov won I would put the surprise value at around Kasparov-Kramnik 2000. I don't think it would be as shocking as Capablanca-Alekhine 1927, definitely not Alekhine-Euwe 1935.

You know, with Fischer there was a group of very strong players who ruled the chess world for almost the entirety of his career. Geller, Petrosian, Tal, Korchnoi, Spassky, Gilgorich, Keres, Reshevksy... Karpov kind of came out of nowhere- sort of like if Giri was to win the next qualifying cycle (and we actually had a good one). It would have been interesting to see how Fischer responded, because while he surpassed all of those players, for the first time he would be meeting somebody who was trying to do the same thing to him.

It speaks to why many people, such as myself, don't consider Bobby to be the greatest player of all time. When it comes to the very highest level, what he did was incredible, but he only really did "one thing." Guys like Lasker, Karpov, and Kasparov proved themselves again and against multiple generations.

Feb-21-11
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  AnalyzeThis: <so how do you explain the fact that fisher ran away from a rematch with karpov?>

His name was Fischer. He announced the new rules under which he would play world championship matches in 1973, long before the world cared who Anatoly Karpov was. These rules were something he had actually already discussed before the Spassky match in 1972. If you Read "Profile of a Prodigy" he said he was going to make the Russians play under his system, and he stuck to to his word. Later, when Karpov was declared champ, Fischer signed a contract to play, but Karpov refused to sign.

Fischer didn't run away from Karpov. Botvinnik and other Russians kept pushing for conditions that they knew would be unacceptable to Fischer, because they knew that Fischer was the stronger player.

By the way, you can't play a rematch if you never played a match in the first place.

Feb-21-11
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  AnalyzeThis: <SetNoEscapeOn: Still, if Karpov won I would put the surprise value at around Kasparov-Kramnik 2000. I don't think it would be as shocking as Capablanca-Alekhine 1927, definitely not Alekhine-Euwe 1935. >

You obviously weren't around then. For example, Richard Reti predicted that Alekhine would beat Capablanca. Produce the name of any grandmaster, anywhere in the world, that had Karpov listed as a favorite over Fischer - there wasn't one.

Feb-21-11
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  pawn to QB4: I think this idea that the match foundered with Fischer being fair and the Soviets making unacceptable demands, is a pretty hard sell. The Reykjavik match happened after a lot of folk bent over backwards to accommodate Fischer. One British master close to the scene was Golombek who summed it up along these lines: "really, it is Fischer's magnificent chess which means people have to tolerate behaviour that would be inexcusable from any lesser person. Tournament organisers will have to reconcile themselves to the presence in their midst of a modernised version of one of the more decadent imperial Caesars".

It struck me in '72, and no doubt many another, that the Soviets would hardly go a second time to the lengths Spassky and Euwe had done to accommodate Fischer. Karpov's victory in the Candidates was headlined over here: "Karpov wins, will Fischer play?" and this was about our view of him, not an idea that the Soviets would be intolerable. As it was, the final condition that FIDE refused was the 9-8 clause and, though we desperately wanted to see the match, Chess magazine's view that FIDE rightly stood firm was generally accepted in Britain, for example.

Feb-21-11
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  BLarsen1967: <AnalyzeThis><Botvinnik and other Russians kept pushing for conditions that they knew would be unacceptable to Fischer, because they knew that Fischer was the stronger player.> Fischer was not the Boss,he only had a say regarding match conditions. We're not talking about pre-FIDE times here,and there are clear limits to how much 'anarchism' FIDE will tolerate. Others have felt that too,like,Susan Polgar
Feb-21-11  shach matov: <AnalyzeThis>

not one word did you say make any sense, as the two posts just before mine prove. excuses do not work in chess. fisher simply failed to defend the title and prove his ability to dominate the chess world for any serious period of time. making excuses for his failure to do so is simply idiotic.

i repeat: a great player is one who proves his ability to dominate for a long period of time, who defends his title, and most importantly who does not run away from challenges. unfortunately (one of the greatest chess talents ever) failed to fulfill even one of these conditions. countless excuses like russians are trying to kill me, the chairs are bugged, or that aliens are making me make bad moves will in no way change the aforementioned facts.

lets also remember that kasparov has praised fisher more than any other player, saying that he was a great source of inspiration for him as a young player. and eventhough the facts show unequivocally that GK is the greater player, with an incomparably greater career than fisher, GK has always praised fisher's contributions to chess, on and off-board.

Feb-21-11
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  AnalyzeThis: You too can learn to spell Bobby Fischer's name correctly. Once we get you up to the third grade reading level, we can take it from there.
Feb-21-11  shach matov: ok, I take that as a confession that once again you have been completely destroyed in an argument. your ego is irrelevant when it comes to facts.
Feb-21-11
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  chancho: <AnalyzeThis: Later, when Karpov was declared champ, Fischer signed a contract to play, but Karpov refused to sign.>

Yes, Fischer asked that The match be called: Professional Chess World Championship.

That effectively ended any chance of a match...

In 1975, Fischer did not ask for that when he offered his conditions. Care to explain? :-)

Feb-21-11  boyski: shach matov are you in grade school?
Feb-21-11
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  AnalyzeThis: <In 1975, Fischer did not ask for that when he offered his conditions. Care to explain? :-) >

Not even hard. Fischer was saying that when he played the match and beat Karpov, he didn't want Karpov coming back later and saying it was only an exhibition match. The word professional takes care of that problem.

Personally I would not have let a word like professional keep me from playing Bobby Fischer. I think Karpov should have played instead of running away.

Feb-21-11
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  chancho: <AnalyzeThis> No offense, but that sounds like so much spin... Had Karpov played and lost to Fischer, Karpov saying it was a mere "exhibition" would not have convinced anyone, let alone the Soviets... As for Karpov letting the word "professional" get in the way of playing Fischer, Karpov had to answer to his superiors in Moscow. If they told him no, then it was no.
Also, Fischer could have used those same conditions in other matches with anyone else, and they would have been more than willing to comply. But he never did. It took until 1992 when he finally reappeared on the Chess scene, only to disappear again.
Feb-21-11  shach matov: <he didn't want Karpov coming back later and saying it was only an exhibition match.> after hearing hundreds of fake excuses for fisher running away from a match with karpov, this is has gotta be the most idiotic of them all:). i can't believe fisher would ever say this - has to be an improvised excuse by one of his fans.
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