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Garry Kasparov
Number of games in database: 2,348
Years covered: 1973 to 2012
Last FIDE rating: 2812
Highest rating achieved in database: 2851
Overall record: +785 -118 =771 (69.9%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      674 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (192) 
    B30 B40 B31 B50 B33
 Ruy Lopez (102) 
    C92 C84 C97 C67 C80
 Nimzo Indian (86) 
    E32 E34 E21 E20 E46
 Queen's Gambit Declined (81) 
    D37 D31 D35 D30 D38
 Queen's Indian (80) 
    E12 E15 E17 E16
 Slav (62) 
    D19 D10 D15 D11 D17
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (343) 
    B90 B84 B82 B83 B22
 King's Indian (158) 
    E92 E97 E76 E60 E75
 Sicilian Najdorf (112) 
    B90 B92 B97 B93 B96
 Grunfeld (98) 
    D85 D97 D76 D78 D87
 Sicilian Scheveningen (69) 
    B84 B82 B83 B80 B81
 English (34) 
    A15 A10 A11 A13
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Kasparov vs Topalov, 1999 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1985 0-1
   Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1994 1-0
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1994 0-1
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990 1-0
   Kasparov vs Anand, 1995 1-0
   Kasparov vs Portisch, 1983 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1993 0-1
   Adams vs Kasparov, 2005 0-1
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1986 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1984)
   Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1985)
   Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Rematch (1986)
   Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1987)
   Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1990)
   Kasparov-Short World Championship Match (1993)
   Kasparov-Anand World Championship Match (1995)
   Kasparov-Kramnik World Championship Match (2000)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Linares (1994)
   10th Euwe Memorial (1996)
   Novgorod (1997)
   Tilburg Fontys (1997)
   Linares (1997)
   Linares (1999)
   Wijk aan Zee Corus (2000)
   Sarajevo (2000)
   Bled Olympiad (2002)
   European Clubs Cup (Men) (2003)
   Russian Championships 2004 (2004)
   XXII Torneo Ciudad de Linares (2005)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Garry Kasparov's Best Games by KingG
   Kasparov's super simuls by crawfb5
   Match Kasparov! by amadeus
   senakash's favorite games by senakash
   Size GAZA by lonchaney
   kasparov best games by brager
   senakash's favorite games qgd by senakash
   Guess-the-Move Chess: 1990-1999 (Part 3) by Anatoly21
   KASPAROV GAMES by gambitfan
   Road to the Championship - Garry Kasparov (I) by Fischer of Men
   senakash's favorite games mini by senakash
   senakash's favorite games garry by senakash
   senakash's favorite games ruylopez by senakash
   Garry Kasparov's Greatest Chess Games (Stohl) by AdrianP

GAMES ANNOTATED BY KASPAROV: [what is this?]
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987
   Kasparov vs Igor Ivanov, 1978

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GARRY KASPAROV
(born Apr-13-1963) Azerbaijan (citizen of Russia)

[what is this?]
One of the greatest players of all time, Kasparov was undisputed World Champion from 1985 until 1993, and Classical World Champion from 1993 until 2000. Known to chess fans world wide as the <Beast From Baku> on account of his aggressive and highly successful style of play, his main early influence was the combative and combinative style of play displayed by Alexander Alekhine.

Early Years

Originally named Garry Kimovich Weinstein (or Weinshtein), he was born in Baku, in what was then the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic (now the Republic of Azerbaijan), and is the son of Klara Shagenovna Kasparova and Kim Moiseyevich Weinstein. At five years old, young Garry Weinstein taught himself how to play chess from watching his relatives solve chess puzzles in a newspaper. His immense natural talent was soon realized and from age 7, he attended the Young Pioneer Palace in Baku (where for some time he was known as "Garry Bronstein".*). At 10, he began training at the Mikhail Botvinnik Soviet chess school. He was first coached by Vladimir Andreevich Makogonov and later by Alexander Shakarov. Five years after his father's untimely death from leukaemia, the twelve year old chess prodigy adopted the Russian-sounding name Garry Kasparov (Kas-PARE-off) a reference to his mother's Armenian maiden name, Gasparyan (or Kasparian).

Championships

Junior Twelve-year old Kasparov won the Soviet Junior Championship, held in Tbilisi in 1976 scoring 7/9, and repeated his success in 1977, winning with a score of 8˝ of 9. The next several years were spent marking his rise as a world-class talent. He became World Junior Champion in 1980 in Dortmund, the same year he earned the grandmaster title.

National He first qualified for the Soviet Chess Championship at age 15 in 1978, the youngest ever player at that level. He won the 64-player Swiss system tournament at Daugavpils on tiebreak over Igor Vasilievich Ivanov, to capture the sole qualifying place. He was joint Soviet Champion in 1980-81 with Lev Psakhis ** and in 1988 Kasparov and Anatoly Karpov tied in the Super-Soviet Championship***. In 2004, Garry Kasparov won the Russian Championships 2004 (2004) with a stunning +5 score.

World On the basis of his result in the 1981 Soviet Championship, which doubled as a zonal tournament for the USSR region, he earned a place in the 1982 Moscow Interzonal tournament, which he won, to qualify for the Candidates Tournament matches that were held in 1983 and 1984. At age 19, he was the youngest Candidate since Robert James Fischer, who was 15 when he qualified in 1958. At this stage, he was already the #2-rated player in the world, trailing only world champion Karpov on the January 1983 list. These Candidates matches were the first and last Candidates matches Kasparov contested, as he declined to participate in the Candidates held under the auspices of the PCA in 2002 to decide a challenger to his successor as classical World Champion, Vladimir Kramnik. Kasparov's first Candidates match in Moscow was a best-of-ten affair against Alexander Beliavsky, whom he defeated 6–3 (+4 -1 =4). After much political ado, Kasparov defeated Viktor Korchnoi in London in the best-of-12 semi-final match by 7–4 (+4 -1 =6), and in early 1984 in Vilnius he defeated former World Champion Vasily Smyslov in the best-of-16 finals played by 8.5-4.5 (+4 =9 -0) to earn his challenge against Karpov. By the time the match with Smyslov was played, Kasparov had become the number-one ranked player in the world with a FIDE rating of 2710. He became the youngest ever world number-one, a record that lasted 12 years until being broken by Vladimir Kramnik in January 1996 and again by his former pupil, Magnus Carlsen in 2010.

At one stage during the Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1984), Kasparov trailed 5-0 in the first-to-win-6 match. He then fought back to win three games and bring the score to 5–3 in Karpov's favour after 48 games, making it the longest world championship match ever. At that point, the match was ended without result by the then FIDE President, the late Florencio Campomanes, with Karpov thus retaining the title. Further details can be found in the match link at the head of this paragraph. Kasparov won the best-of-24 games Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match (1985) in Moscow by 13–11, winning the 24th and last game with Black. He was then 22, the youngest ever World Champion, and broke the record held by Mikhail Tal for over 20 years. Karpov exercised his right to a rematch, the Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Rematch (1986), which took place in 1986, hosted jointly in London and Leningrad, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov scored of 12˝–11˝, retaining the title. The fourth match, the Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1987) in Seville. Karpov had been directly seeded into and won the final match of the Candidates' Matches to again become the official challenger. Kasparov retained his title by winning the final game and drawing the match 12–12. The fifth and last championship match between the two, Kasparov-Karpov World Championship Match (1990), was held in New York and Lyon in 1990, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov won by 12˝–11˝. In their five world championship matches, the combined game tally was +21 -19 =104 in Kasparov’s favour.

Kasparov subsequently defended his title against Nigel Short under the auspices of the PCA in 1993, and against Viswanathan Anand in 1995. Five years later, in 2000 (Kasparov-Kramnik World Championship Match (2000)), Kasparov finally relinquished his crown to his former student, Vladimir Kramnik who was granted the right to challenge without having to qualify, the first time this had happened since 1935, when Alexander Alekhine selected Max Euwe as his challenger. Subsequently, Kasparov remained the top rated player in the world, ahead of both Kramnik and the FIDE World Champions, on the strength of a series of wins in major tournaments.

Under the "Prague Agreement” which was put together by Yasser Seirawan to reunite the two titles, Kasparov was to play a match against the 2002 FIDE World Champion Ruslan Ponomariov in September 2003. But this match was cancelled when Ponomariov was dissatisfied with the terms of the contract. Subsequent plans for a match against 2004 FIDE World Champion Rustam Kasimdzhanov, to be held in January 2005 in the United Arab Emirates fell through due to lack of funding. Shortly after this, Kasparov announced his retirement from competitive chess.

In an interview in 2007, Kasparov said that <…my decision in 1993 to break away from the world chess federation, FIDE, with Nigel Short was the worst mistake of my career. It was a serious miscalculation on my part. I thought we could start fresh with a professional organisation, but there was little support among the players. It led to short-term progress in commercial sponsorship for chess, but in the long run hurt the game...> ****

Classical Tournaments

In 1978, Kasparov won the Sokolsky Memorial tournament in Minsk as a wild card entry, a victory which convinced Kasparov he could aim for the World Championship. He played in a grandmaster tournament in Banja Luka, Yugoslavia in 1979 while still unrated, due to Korchnoi’s withdrawal. He took first place with an undefeated record, two points ahead of the field. Game Collection: Banja Luka 1979 He emerged with a provisional rating of 2595, immediately landing at world number 15, a feat only surpassed by Gata Kamsky in July 1990. His first win in a superclass-level international tournament was scored at Bugojno, Yugoslavia in 1982 and his win in Linares in 2002 is the tenth victory in a record for the most consecutive victories in super tournaments: Linares 4 (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, Wijk aan Zee 3 (1999, 2000, 2001), Sarajevo 2 (1999, 2000) and Astana 1 (2001). Kasparov also holds the record for most consecutive professional tournament victories, placing first or equal first in 15 individual tournaments from 1981 to 1990. It started with the 1981 USSR Championship and finished in Linares in 1990. His five epic title matches against Karpov were held during this period. Subsequently, Kasparov won Linares again in 1992, 1993, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2005, the latter being his swan song from the game.

Olympiads

Kasparov played in eight Olympiads. He represented the Soviet Union four times, in 1980, 1982, 1986 and 1988, and Russia four times: in 1992, 1994, 1996 and 2002 playing board 1 on each occasion apart from 1980 (2nd reserve) and 1982 (2nd board). In 82 games, he scored (+50 =29 -3), for 78.7% and won a total of 19 medals, including 8 team gold medals, 5 board golds, 2 performance golds, 2 performance silvers and 2 board bronzes. Kasparov also represented the USSR once in Youth Olympiad competition at Graz in 1981, when he played board 1 for the USSR board 1, scoring 9/10 (+8 =2 -0), the team winning the gold medal.

Team chess

Kasparov made his international teams debut for the USSR at age 16 in the 1980 European Team Championship at Skara and played for Russia in the 1992 edition of that championship. He won a total of five medals including at Skara 1980, as USSR 2nd reserve, 5˝/6 (+5 =1 -0), team gold, board gold and at Debrecen 1992, Russia board 1, 6/8 (+4 =4 -0), team gold, board gold, performance silver.

Matches

<Computer> Kasparov defeated the chess computer Deep Thought (Computer) in both games of a two-game match in 1989. In February 1996, he defeated IBM's chess computer Deep Blue (Computer) with three wins and two draws and one loss. In 1997, an updated version of Deep Blue defeated Kasparov 3˝–2˝ in a highly publicised six-game match. The match was even after five games but Kasparov lost Game 6 - Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997 - to lose the match. This was the first time a computer had ever defeated a world champion in match play. In January 2003, he played and drew a six game FIDE Man-Machine WC (2003) match against Deep Junior (Computer). In November 2003, he played and drew a four-game Man-Machine World Chess Championship (2003) against the computer program X3D Fritz (Computer) X3D Fritz, although he was constrained through the use of a virtual board, 3D glasses and a speech recognition system.

<Human – classical> Kasparov played several matches apart from his matches in the World Championship cycles. Full details can be seen at Game Collection: Match Kasparov!.

<Human – rapid> In 1998, Kasparov played a blitz match against Kramnik in Moscow, that match being drawn +7-7=10. He fared better in the 2000 internet blitz match against Judit Polgar, winning one and drawing one. The following year, he played a blitz match against the many times Greek speed chess champion Hristos Banikas of Greece, winning 5 and drawing one. In his 2002 blitz against Elisabeth Paehtz in Munich, he won 6-0. Later in 2002, Kasparov lost a four game rapid match (+1 -2 =1) over two days in December 2002 in New York City against Anatoly Karpov. In 2009 in Valencia, Spain, he again played Karpov, and won the Kasparov-Karpov Rapid Match (2009) 3-1 and the Kasparov-Karpov Blitz Match (2009) by 6-2. In 2011, as part of his Chess In Schools campaign, he played a two game Kasparov-Lagrave Blitz Match (2011) in Clichy France, winning by 1.5-0.5. A few months later in October 2011, he won the Kasparov-Short Blitz Match (2011) 4.5-3.5 (+3 -2 =3), breaking the deadlock after game 7 by winning game 8 to win the match.

<Simuls> In 1985, Kasparov played his first simul against a team, the Hamburg Bundesliga team lead by GM Murray Chandler, and lost 3.5-4.5, the first and only time he lost a simul against a team. In 1987, he played a simul against the same albeit slightly stronger team, but this time he was prepared and crushed the Hamburg players 7-1; later in 1987 he also crushed the Swiss team: Game Collection: Kasparov vs Swiss Team Simul by 5.5-0.5, drawing only with former World Junior Champion Werner Hug. In 1988 he played a simul against the French team in Evry (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul), winning 4, drawing one and losing one; he played the French team again in 1989 (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul 1989), this time winning three and drawing 3 games. Also in 1988 he played a simul against a group of powerful US Juniors, and won by 4-2 (+3 -1 =2)*****. In 1992, Kasparov played a clock simul against the German team ( Game Collection: Kasparov vs German National Team Simul) which included former title contender Vlastimil Hort with whom he drew, winning 2 and drawing 2. He played a simul against the Argentinean team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Argentinian Team Simul) winning (+7 -1 =4); in 1998 he played the Israeli team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Israeli National Team Simul) winning 7-1, and in 2001 he played the Czech team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Czech National Team Simul) in Prague, winning by +4 -1 =3.

Rating

Kasparov's ratings achievements include being rated world #1 according to Elo rating almost continuously from 1986 until his retirement in 2005. He was the world number-one ranked player for 255 months, a record that far outstrips all other previous and current number-one ranked players. Kasparov had the highest Elo rating in the world continuously from 1986 to 2005. However, Vladimir Kramnik equaled him in the January 1996 FIDE ratings list, technically supplanting him because he played more games. He was also briefly ejected from the list following his split from FIDE in 1993, but during that time he headed the rating list of the rival PCA. At the time of his retirement, he was still ranked #1 in the world, with a rating of 2812. In January 1990 Kasparov achieved the (then) highest FIDE rating ever, passing 2800 and breaking Bobby Fischer's old record of 2785. On the July 1999 and January 2000 FIDE rating lists Kasparov reached a 2851 Elo rating, which became the highest rating ever achieved until surpassed by Magnus Carlsen in 2013. There was a time in the early 1990s when Kasparov was over 2800 and the only person in the 2700s was Anatoly Karpov.

Other

Under Kasparov's tutelage, Carlsen became the youngest ever to achieve a FIDE rating higher than 2800, and the youngest ever world number one. Kasparov also assisted Anand’s preparation for the Anand-Topalov World Chess Championship (2010) against challenger Veselin Topalov. Since his retirement, Kasparov has concentrated much of his time and energy in Russian politics. He is also a prolific author, most famously his <My Great Predecessors> series. His politics and authorship are discussed at some detail in the wiki article and at his official website cited below. In 2007, he was ranked 25th in The Daily Telegraph's list of 100 greatest living geniuses and has won 11 Chess Oscars.

Kasparov has been married three times: first to Masha, with whom he had a daughter, Polina (b. 1993), before divorcing; to Yulia, with whom he had a son, Vadim (b. 1996) before their 2005 divorce; and to Daria, with whom he also has a daughter, Aida (b. 2006).

Biography: http://www.kasparovagent.com/garry_... Kasparov’s official website: http://kasparov.com/ Kasparov Chess Foundation: http://www.kasparovchessfoundation.... ]

* http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2/...; ** [rusbase-1]; *** [rusbase-2]; **** [rusbase-3]; ***** http://www.chessbase.com/newsprint....

Wikipedia article: Kasparov


 page 1 of 94; games 1-25 of 2,348  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. E Magerramov vs Kasparov 0-135 1973 BakuB54 Sicilian
2. Kasparov vs S Muratkuliev 1-032 1973 Baku tt U18C77 Ruy Lopez
3. Kasparov vs O Vasilchenko 1-040 1973 KievC03 French, Tarrasch
4. E Kengis vs Kasparov ½-½54 1973 Vilnius LTUB88 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin Attack
5. Kasparov vs Averbakh 1-048 1974 Moscow clock simC68 Ruy Lopez, Exchange
6. Korchnoi vs Kasparov ½-½42 1975 Palace of Pioneers sim.E80 King's Indian, Samisch Variation
7. Dvoirys vs Kasparov ½-½45 1975 BakuB89 Sicilian
8. Kasparov vs A Sokolov 1-032 1975 BakuB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
9. Karpov vs Kasparov 1-045 1975 LeningradB92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky Variation
10. Kasparov vs B Kantsler 1-032 1975 Junior competitionC00 French Defense
11. Kasparov vs E Kengis ½-½27 1975 BakuB52 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
12. O Pavlenko vs Kasparov 0-134 1975 BakuE71 King's Indian, Makagonov System (5.h3)
13. Kasparov vs Polugaevsky ½-½25 1975 LeningradB40 Sicilian
14. Kasparov vs Gorelov 1-058 1975 BakuC61 Ruy Lopez, Bird's Defense
15. E Vladimirov vs Kasparov ½-½30 1975 VilniusE17 Queen's Indian
16. Kasparov vs Smyslov 0-130 1975 Team GM/Young PioneersC60 Ruy Lopez
17. Tilichkin vs Kasparov 0-143 1975 BakuB87 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin with ...a6 and ...b5
18. Kasparov vs Yurtaev 0-144 1975 BakuB39 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto, Breyer Variation
19. Rizvonov vs Kasparov 0-137 1975 VilniusE17 Queen's Indian
20. Kasparov vs Yermolinsky 0-148 1975 BakuB05 Alekhine's Defense, Modern
21. Einoris vs Kasparov 0-142 1975 BakuB59 Sicilian, Boleslavsky Variation, 7.Nb3
22. Kasparov vs Yermolinsky 0-148 1975 LeningradB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
23. Gabdrakhmanov vs Kasparov ½-½31 1976 TbilisiE99 King's Indian, Orthodox, Taimanov
24. Kasparov vs Z Sturua ½-½29 1976 TbilisiB40 Sicilian
25. Kasparov vs E Magerramov 0-135 1976 MoscowC83 Ruy Lopez, Open
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Kasparov on Kasparov: Part I

Kibitzer's Corner
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Feb-15-12  matebay: <There a plenty of tales and anecdotes detailing Fischer's accomplishments and sparks of genius...just like those revelations in my previous post where I quoted Frank Brady. These stories and remarkable accounts serve as testament to Fischer's genius.

Sadly, no such narrative is given about Kasparov. >

The only tale which made a very strong impression of Garry on me is well documented in you tube...and that's how to react upon committing a blunder:

http://youtu.be/kZqcT66Fkzw

Feb-15-12  matebay: Also this one. Kasparov hates arbiters.

http://youtu.be/YoDTI_ZRMao

Feb-15-12  Refused: I said I could not comprehend it as a whole. Means actually understanding the formulas (except e=mc˛) and how they are derived. On the superficial level you are discussing it, I could easily discuss it with you. But we are not talking about Einstein's relativity theory (theoretically it is possible in the conception of Einstein to travel in time, but practically, well the thought experiment with the two brothers). But that's the typical superficial level you are discussing stuff, without properly understanding it, there's much more to the relativity theory than what is on wikipedia. So according to Einstein, how fast and how far must one travel to travel a year in time? How much does light bend when being near a black hole? Ah C'mon easy questions. And how excactly was Einstein's theory used to prove Newton wrong? And give the complete formula, and explain what the actual terms mean and how they are derived. C'mon genius.

Anyway we were talking about intelligence and your total lack to understand the basic conceptions. And yes, somebody repeatedly displaying total ignorance to the scientific concepts he claims to talk about, qualifies pretty much for the label idiot.

Feb-15-12  matebay: You did not answer my questions at all. Instead, you posed your own questions copy pasted from Wiki. You're still in my idiot list...unless you gave me the correct answers to my simple questions.

You need to give answers to the following questions:

1. Please give me the complete word when I say..<refused> is an i******e!

2.where in the theory of relativity
would make time travel to the past possible?

3.where in the theory of relativity would make it possible that today you and me are both 40 years old..but 20 years from now, you will still be 40 and I will be 60.

Feb-15-12  Refused: Why would I need to answer your questions?
I never claimed to understand relativity theory. You are the one who thinks that a few youtube videos and wikipedia makes you an expert. :')

And we were talking about and repeatingly abusing psychological constructs and their respective tests without understanding them (wikipedia knowledge at most). Blunderdome pointed out some flaws I told you repeatedly don't talk about stuff you do not understand. Whether I understand the relativity theory, is totally unrelated to it my little troll. And yet you continue to post some random links to what you claim be legit intelligence tests (which they are clearly not), and make it sound like: here that's the kinda test Kasparov took, compare yourself to him. YeahFischer had an IQ of 180, I can't prove but I have found a link on chess.com the most relaible source for IQ test scores and IQ tests ever.

Just don't talk about stuff you do not understand. It's that freaking simple.

Feb-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  brankat: <jussu> <With Fischer's chess achievments not anywhere near those of Kasparov, we are now enumerating Fischer's other character traits presumably not shared by Kasparov. Fortunately, he had many of those.>

Well said.

<matebay>

<.Fischer would know the best move at an instant... he possesses the kind of extra ordinary perception which sets him very far apart from the rest of us mortals.>

Then it is strange that he didn't use this "extraordinary perception" until 1970. A late bloomer?

Feb-15-12  matebay: <Fischer's chess achievments not anywhere near those of Kasparov, >

You may be alluding to the fact that Garry was world champion far more longer than Fischer.

Fischer's lack of championship years was a personal choice when he decided to stop playing chess and not due to poor and inferior play befitting a WC.

Garry has more years as WC compared to Fischer because Garry continued playing whilst Bobby decided to stop.

It was not because Garry was the better WC between the two.

Feb-15-12  shach matov: <Refused: That's the problem with idiots (hello matebay) talking about stuff they do not even remotely understand. There actually might be people who believe him.

*RAGE*

And yes, I am slowly but surely getting really angry>

That's not <matebay>'s fault - people don't blame the retarded for acting retarded, do they? There's no point in feeding the troll, the more you disprove his posts, the more he will post in response ;]

Feb-15-12  MORPHYEUS: <2.where in the theory of relativity would make time travel to the past possible?

3.where in the theory of relativity would make it possible that today you and me are both 40 years old..but 20 years from now, you will still be 40 and I will be 60.>

2 is not in the theory. 3 is in the theory.

Feb-15-12  matebay: <Just don't talk about stuff you do not understand. It's that freaking simple.>

At least i can appreciate Magnus games whereas you admitted in your profile:

<refused: As much as I like watching Carlsen as one of the (potential) future World Champs, I totally do not understand his play. With Kramnik I sometimes get an idea what his play is about and I sometimes can guess his moves and ideas, but with Carlsen I am usually totally wrong and do not get his game plan at all.>

Does your ignorance of Carlsen's play prohibit you to talk about him.

If not, why prohibit me of taking about something which you imply I don't understand.

In the first place, you do not know my IQ score. So how could you judge my intelligence?

Feb-15-12  matebay: <That's not <matebay>'s fault - people don't blame the retarded for acting retarded, do they? >

If I am retarded, how can I ever imagine to go back in time applying Einstein's theory of relativity...I will then convince Morphy, Capablance and Fischer to go back with me to the future and play against Kasparov and Carlsen so that all these things can be sorted out.

And this post is in reply to your post...so the very thing you are religiously trying to prevent (i.e. me to answer back) you now make possible. That makes you the retarded you falsely picture me to be.

Feb-15-12  shach matov: <matebay>

It's not just <Refused> who showed that you're a troll... I also showed that you lie and post nonsense with no regard to logic or common sense.

Weren't you the one who was arguing that So is Fischer's reincarnation, forgetting that SO was born when BF was still alive? And to add insult to your injury then you proceeded to lie that you never even said that!

When I showed you your own quote where you said exactly what you denied saying, you finally shut up.

Why not grow up and stop lying and trolling? Arguing is fine, but trolling is not. And you will always lose when you try to do that.

Feb-15-12  matebay: <MORPHYEUS: <<<2.where in the theory of relativity would make time travel to the past possible?

3.where in the theory of relativity would make it possible that today you and me are both 40 years old..but 20 years from now, you will still be 40 and I will be 60.<

2 is not in the theory. 3 is in the theory.<<<<>>>>>>

Of course it is! Its called time dilation.
http://youtu.be/xvZfx7iwq94

Feb-15-12  matebay: 4:17...if you could travel faster than the speed of light, then you could travel backwards in time.
Feb-15-12  Refused: < matebay: <Just don't talk about stuff you do not understand. It's that freaking simple.> At least i can appreciate Magnus games whereas you admitted in your profile:

<refused: As much as I like watching Carlsen as one of the (potential) future World Champs, I totally do not understand his play. With Kramnik I sometimes get an idea what his play is about and I sometimes can guess his moves and ideas, but with Carlsen I am usually totally wrong and do not get his game plan at all.>

Does your ignorance of Carlsen's play prohibit you to talk about him.>

So? I am saying I don't understand his play, that's in no way ignorant towards Carlsen. I enjoy watching it, as I do enjoy watching a good movie, or listening to music. Do I have to know how filmmaking or script writing works, to enjoy a movie? Nope. Because I can't sing very well, does not mean I can't appreciate a Puccini opera? Nope. I am not a particular good skater, but I enjoy watching a good hockey game nevertheless. I don't engage in a discussion with a pharmacist about what Antibiotic works best and how medicine works. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

<If not, why prohibit me of taking about something which you imply I don't understand.

In the first place, you do not know my IQ score. So how could you judge my intelligence?>

I am judging from behavior. Maybe you are smarter than you pose here (or your posts suggest). I will tell it again don't talk about stuff you do not understand, I never made claims about your IQ-score though. But even if you hold an engineer's degree, I just say you are not qualified to talk about intelligence (construct) and IQ-Tests the way you would love to. And you are totally clueless in that domain. And you are terribly disrespectful and ignorant towards the science of psychology. Thus my describtion as idiot. Psychology is actually a science, and concepts like Intelligence and Personality are quite complex, a bit humbleness towards it is in place. If you do not understand it, it's alright, nobody expects you to, but do not pose or worse actually believe wikipedia provides sufficient knowledge to discuss it, the way you are trying to do it here.

And no, I am not implying it, I am actually saying it straight out, you have no idea about psychological constructs like intelligence and how intelligence testing works. And you are trying to highjack and abuse it for your own agenda.

And yes, I also claim to be way more knowledgeable in that domain than you are. And no, I did not need to use wikipedia.

Feb-15-12  shach matov: <matebay: Of course it is! Its called time dilation>

Wrong again. There is no <time travel to the past> in the standard special relativity. Time dilation is a completely different phenomena - it only applies to two frames moving with relative speed to each other; has absolutely nothing to do with time travel.

Feb-15-12  King Death: < matebay: Just don't talk about stuff you do not understand. It's that freaking simple.>

There's this very old story about the pot and the kettle, maybe you heard of it. If you haven't, read up a little bit.

Feb-15-12  matebay: <Arguing is fine, but trolling is not.>

From Wiki:

<In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.>

How could I ever fit the definition of a troll?

1. Are my posts inflammatory?

Of course not. Only <refused> indicated he was in the verge of rage...but that's his own making...other posters (except shach) are not furious or disturbed at all. <refused> need to contain his emotions.

2. extraneous, or off-topic

Of course not. We are on the subject of comparing Bobby and Garry...exploring the use of IQ tests as a barometer. Even the discussion involving the theory of relativity is relevant...the concept of time travel back in time to the past...then back to the future would make possible a meeting between Chess players long dead (i.e. Morphy, Capablanca and Fischer among others) and current players (i.e. Kasparov and Carlsen). Only can we decide on who is the all time undisputed best player in the world.

Feb-15-12  King Death: There are people out there that would like us to believe that because we can't do the kind of things you've mentioned as well as the best there's no point trying. Besides it wouldn't be too much fun if for example I could only discuss chess with players that were my strength.

<Refused: ....And no, I am not implying it, I am actually saying it straight out, you have no idea about psychological constructs like intelligence and how intelligence testing works. And you are trying to highjack and abuse it for your own agenda.>

Unfortunately this happened enough that I had to find the magic button for <mateboy>, it was too much to have every conversation hijacked and abused by an idiot.

Feb-15-12  shach matov: <2. extraneous, or off-topic>

Your posts are exactly that. Refused was arguing with you about IQ and you decided to start posting nonsense about the relativity theory, which has nothing to do with IQ testing.

On top of that it was also <1.... inflammatory> since you made a silly effort to "bully" your opponent by again asking irrelevant questions about relativity, claiming that <You could not even comprehend the theory of relativity.

To disprove my claim about your level of intelligence, kindly then tell me where in the theory of relativity>.

Was Newton unintelligent because he didn't know anything about special relativity? Lets stop the silliness ;]

Feb-15-12  Refused: <King Death: There are people out there that would like us to believe that because we can't do the kind of things you've mentioned as well as the best there's no point trying. Besides it wouldn't be too much fun if for example I could only discuss chess with players that were my strength.>

Agreed, it's more fun to discuss games/analyze with players who are at your own level (or higher). But I don't mind lower rated players joining, provide input and if they show curiosity and interest in the game. But When a lower rated player joins suggests bad moves/idea (which is ok), and insists it's brilliant and that you don't know what you are talking about to dismiss it, that's the point where I find it <demanding>. Especially if that players comes up with the same bad idea 3 moves later and is insisting again. On the internet that happens less frequently, since most people have their computers running (I am probably one of the few users that has no fritz on their computer installed). But as a veteran club player you probably know what I mean.

Feb-15-12  matebay: <Unfortunately this happened enough that I had to find the magic button for <mateboy>, it was too much to have every conversation hijacked and abused by an idiot.>

From wiki:

<In 19th and early 20th century medicine and psychology, an "idiot" was a person with a very severe mental retardation. In the early 1900s, Dr. Henry H. Goddard proposed a classification system for mental retardation based on the Binet-Simon concept of mental age. <Individuals with the lowest mental age level (less than three years) were identified as idiots;> imbeciles had a mental age of three to seven years, and morons had a mental age of seven to ten years.[9] IQ, or intelligence quotient, is determined by dividing a person's mental age, as determined by standardized tests, by their actual age. The term "idiot" was used to refer to people having an IQ below 30..>

If there's an idiot somewhere in the near vicinity, it's not me. I have undergone countless IQ tests...way back in high school and everytime I apply for a new job...My results would always put me on the top of my batch...leveling off to 115 which ranks me as high average.

IQ Archaic Description Description Score higher than:

10 Idiot Profound Mental Retardation Fewer than 1 out of 100,000

25 " Severe Mental Retardation "

40 Imbecile Moderate Mental Retardation 3 out of 100,000

55 Moron Mild Mental Retardation 13 out of 10,000

70 Borderline 2 out of 100

85 Dull Normal Low Average 16 out of 100

100 Average Half

115 High Average 84 out of 100

125 Superior 95 out of 100

130 Genius Very Superior/Gifted 98.5 out of 100

145 9,913 out of 10,000

Feb-15-12  matebay: <On top of that it was also <1.... inflammatory> since you made a silly effort to "bully" your opponent by again asking irrelevant questions about relativity,>

Even the discussion involving the theory of relativity is relevant...the concept of time travel back in time to the past...then back to the future would make possible a meeting between Chess players long dead (i.e. Morphy, Capablanca and Fischer among others) and current players (i.e. Kasparov and Carlsen). Only can we decide on who is the all time undisputed best player in the world.

Feb-15-12  matebay: <refused> King Death was referring to you in his post in a very negative way..and yet you agree with him...You have sealed your own doom!
Feb-15-12  matebay: my first batch of IQ tests was for my job application with SGV and Company, an auditing firmhttp://www.sgv.ph/. It lasted for 3 days non stop...I was the sole examinee....safe to say, I was the only one who passed.
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