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|Aug-11-09|| ||BIDMONFA: Karl Mayet|
|Aug-11-09|| ||whiteshark: <Player of the Day>|
(Wiki asked if I've meant K Mayer) :D
|Aug-11-09|| ||Phony Benoni: Just out of curiosity (since I hardly expect to use it in conversation), how is his last name pronounced? It looks more French than German.|
|Aug-11-09|| ||whiteshark: <PB> It looks French and I you spell it French.
Todays distribution of Mayet in Germany: http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absol...|
Historically he could be a descendant of
- fled French huguenots or
- French soldier who served during the Napoleonic occcupation
- other migration
|Aug-11-09|| ||Knight13: Whoever wrote the biography needs to dim it down with all those "lost a match to" stuff, seriously.|
|Aug-11-09|| ||returnoftheking: what should they say..
he didn't win ? :)
|Aug-11-09|| ||WhiteRook48: he keeps losing matches|
|Aug-11-09|| ||Knight13: <returnoftheking: what should they say..
he didn't win ? :)> Just not mention them.|
|Aug-16-09|| ||returnoftheking: Te laat, te laat! zei Winnetou,
Het zaad is al naar binnen toe!
|Aug-11-11|| ||YoungEd: Mayet, please the court!|
|Aug-11-12|| ||brankat: R.I.P. master Mayet.|
|Aug-11-14|| ||Penguincw: R.I.P. Karl Mayet.|
|Nov-12-14|| ||alshatranji: <Whoever wrote the biography needs to dim it down with all those "lost a match to" stuff>|
Good point, especially if they end it by saying that "had a distinguished career in chess".
|Nov-12-14|| ||Karpova: The bio looks fine and mostly needs only minor modifications like proper sourcing. I can't agree with the criticism voiced here, since it misses the point. The bio tries to give an overview over Mayet's complete chess career. SeeRod Edwards' page on Mayet: http://www.edochess.ca/players/p55..... For sure, Mayet lost most of those matches, but Anderssen and also Neumann for example belonged to the strongest players in the world back then. It is comparable to playing a match against a top ten player today - an honour in itself already. Despite the strong opposition, Mayet still did score some points.|
|Jan-09-15|| ||Avun Jahei: I love the style of his games, allways looking for the sacrifice. Thats pure romantic chess, so to speak. Of course that didn't work against the elite, even in his times. But players inferior to imself he must have crushed as nutshells.|
Is a great player the same as a successful player? Mayet obviously didn't care that much for the outcome of the game. He wanted to know it. You know, he didn't play for money. And there were no Elo numbers.
|Apr-01-15|| ||zanzibar: I have trouble with the statement...
<the most original of the <"Berlin Pleiades">>
which is, I believe, a mistranslation.
Likely it should read
<one of the original members of the <"Berlin Pleiades">>
In English, if you say someone is "*the* original" it implies some special status of the person with regards to their being one of the originals.
The phrasing looks to be copied verbatim from wiki. Let me copy the footnoted reference material over here to illustrate my point (and to elucidate those wondering who the Berlin Pleaiades were):
The seven stars of German chess:
Paul von Bilguer, Army Lieutenant and author of the Handbuch, the most influential chess book for 90 years;
Dr. Ludwig Bledow, professor of mathematics and Pleiades founder;
Wilhelm Hanstein, civil servant;
Bernard Horwitz, painter and chess professional;
Baron Tassilo von der Lasa, Prussian Ambassador and chess book; collector (over 2000 books). He never played in a tournament or match;
Carl Mayet, barrister and judge;
Carl Schorn, painter. >
So, here Mayet has no special status, making him "one of the originals", but not "the most original".
One could say that Bledow, in his role as founder, was "the most original", but it's not generally said that way - instead it's more common to just note him as founder.
|Apr-01-15|| ||thomastonk: <zanzibar> The statement looks like taken from a German text, and a brief search at Google books yielded Mayet's obituary in "NBSz", see https://books.google.de/books?id=4c... . |
The final sentence starts with "Sein Spiel zeichnete sich stets durch Originalitšt aus[..].", which means that he played always inventive.
|Apr-01-15|| ||zanzibar: Thanks, and welcome back!|
|Apr-01-15|| ||zanzibar: So, maybe the sentence should be changed from...
<was the most original of the "Berlin Pleiades">
<was the most original and inventive player of the "Berlin Pleiades">
|Oct-06-15|| ||The Kings Domain: I couldn't help but chuckle reading his bio above. I've never seen a player anthologized with so many losses.|
|Oct-06-15|| ||HeMateMe: "Win, Mayet?"
|Aug-11-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Karl Mayet.|
|Dec-24-17|| ||Sularus: hello, santa claus!|
|Dec-25-17|| ||Sularus: test................|
|Aug-11-18|| ||Penguincw: Happy Birthday Karl Mayet.|
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