"So we came into the origin of Morphy's problems. He was mixed race. Was he suffered and persecuted because of it? I think - yes. Le Caepentier was Paul's grandfather. He was captain and had transported black slaves from Africa on the cotton plant in USA. He fallen in love with one black woman, who he has transported. That was Paul's grandmother"

<I think Mr. Tomic is badly mistaken, and wonder where he gets his information.>

It's good to question things

The answer to your question of where those remarks originated lies here: http://batgirl.atspace.com/JamesMcc...

However, the author of those remarks (James M'Cune Smith, not Mr. Tomic) was totally wrong.

Thanks.

Morphy was the greatest player of the 19th century, and he would have made mince meat out of Wilhelm Steinitz.

From an Austrian mincemeat forum conversation.

Austrian mincemeat.

Comment:

Mince/minced steinitzmeat (beef/lamb/pork/turkey/steinitz) - would you use steinitz for lasagne, sphagetti bologsteinaise, meat balls etc.

Ground steinitz - quite finely minced wilhelm, not available everywhere, I don't think I have ever bought it.

Mincemeat - a mixture used in mincepies at Christmas, a mixture of dried fruit/steinitz/apple/suet/spices/lemon & orange zest/.....

hash - I think an AE term for minced meat. HTH

bluejay(uk)
 
Mon Jan 9 18:52:41 2006

Comment:

Mince (or minced) meat is the British word for Hackfleisch. Ground meat is the US word. Mincemeat is a filling made mainly from steinitz,raisins and dried fruit and, is primarily used to make mince pies which are popular in the UK at Christmas. Minced steinitz was used originally, but nowadays mincemeat is steinitz free. Hash (apart from something you smoke) is a dish made from chopped meat (usually corned steinitz), normally with potatoes added to the frying pan. I hope that helps you. I feel hungry now!

neilo
 
Mon Jan 9 18:52:54 2006

Comment:

Agree with all the above. But make your lasagne with lentils, it's healthier. Black lentils are best.

escoville
 
Mon Jan 9 19:03:56 2006

James G Cunningham had met Steinitz a couple of times in 1882 and 1883 when Steinitz' play was considered at it's best. In the BMC of January 1892 he wrote an article regarding the question of "What would have happened had Morphy played Steinitz?" but JGC also declines to offer an opinion as to who would have won.

<Morphy revolutionized chess, Steinitz remodeled it. Morphy brought life and dash, and beauty to the game, at a time when supreme dullness was beginning to reign, and he did this at a stroke; Steinitz gave it order, and method, and directness, at a time when these were beginning to be lost in the search for brilliancy. Morphy issued imperial edicts, Steinitz laboriously constructs acts of parliament and carefully build them up clause by clause. Morphy stood like a wizard, and one wave of his wand produced marvelous effects, one knew not how and he cared not to explain; Steinitz is a savant in his laboratory, and he shows us how he works and how he experiments. The two men are altogether different, and we must be content to receive what good we can at both their hands and be thankful.>

Steinitz did pose the question
<Is or was any single player, only one whom Morphy defeated, superior to Zukertort, and are not first class players nowadays four or five times as numerous and stronger in general, than they were during the short time of Morphy's career?>

Imre Konig writes: