| Mar-28-05 | | aragorn69: This player is one of the discoveries / absurdities of the new chessmetrics.com site. <<Best World Rank: #1 (20 different months between the June 1865 rating list and the February 1867 rating list )> <Highest Rating: 2731 on the January 1866 rating list, #1 in world, age 29y0m> <Best Individual Performance: 2772 in Hirschfeld-Suhle Match (Berlin), 1865, scoring 8/9 (89%) vs 2599-rated opposition>> |
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| Mar-28-05 | | aragorn69: All this, in fact, because he destroyed 8/9 an other unknown master by the name of Hirschfeld, supposedly rater 2599 at the time, in an obscure (none of the games appear in this database) match of 1865... |
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Mar-28-05
 | | Gypsy: But <Adolf Anderssen beat Berthold Suhle 6 to 5, with 3 draws.* Based on games present in our database; may not be complete.> With such a record against Anderssen, Suhle obviously was not a pushover. |
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Mar-28-05
| | Gypsy: Problem with Sonas numbers is not his formulas, but that his samples are very bursty and have significant ommisions. This is certainly true for the data from 100+ years ago and probably the war eras as well. |
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| May-03-05 | | edsauced: In chessmetrics, Suhle only has 4 tournaments listed:
1.- Destroyed 17-31 by Anderssen in 1859
2.- Wins 7.5-2.5 a match vs. an unrated player (Von Guretzky) in 1860. Until now nothing special, maybe he is a player #10 or so in the world, but after 3 years of inactivity, he losses his rating, and gets a new one based on 2 good results.
3.- Draw 4-4 a match vs. Anderssen 1864.
4.- Blows 8-1 a rated player (Hirchfeld) in 1865, catapulting him to #1 of the world. After that he disappears from tournaments.
Anyone can explain me how these last 17 games outweigh the whopping in 48 games in the first Anderssen match. |
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| May-20-05 | | fgh: Another mysterious player :-) |
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| Oct-05-08 | | Agent Bouncy: Does anyone know where to find the scores of the Suhle-Hirschfeld match games? |
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| Feb-02-09 | | Mibelz: Berthold Suhle was born in Stolp (S³upsk, Pommerania, then Kingdom of Prussia, now Poland), studied philosophy, philology and nature in Berlin (1855-1957) and Bonn (1857-1859), and was named a professor in 1895. He won a match with Bartolomeo Forlico (11.5 : 9.5) at Venice 1858, lost to Adolf Anderssen (+0 –5 =2) at Cologne 1859 and (+13 –27 =8) in Breslau from April to September 1859, won against Bernhard von Guretzky-Cornitz (+6 –1 =3) at Berlin 1860, drew with Anderssen (+3 –3 =2) at Berlin 1864, and beat Philipp Hirschfeld (+7 –0 =2) at Berlin 1865. |
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| Aug-19-12 | | Karpova: On December 20, 1858, he scored +6 =2 in a blindfold exhibition in Berlin. At the age of 21, he had already given a 4-games blindfold exhibition in Venice. Source: Page 38 of the 1905 'Wiener Schachzeitung' |
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