|Mar-28-05|| ||aragorn69: This player is one of the discoveries / absurdities of the new chessmetrics.com site. |
<<Best World Rank: #1 (20 different months between the June 1865 rating list and the February 1867 rating list )>
<Highest Rating: 2731 on the January 1866 rating list, #1 in world, age 29y0m>
<Best Individual Performance: 2772 in Hirschfeld-Suhle Match (Berlin), 1865, scoring 8/9 (89%) vs 2599-rated opposition>>
|Mar-28-05|| ||aragorn69: All this, in fact, because he destroyed 8/9 an other unknown master by the name of Hirschfeld, supposedly rater 2599 at the time, in an obscure (none of the games appear in this database) match of 1865... |
|Mar-28-05|| ||Gypsy: But <Adolf Anderssen beat Berthold Suhle 6 to 5, with 3 draws.* Based on games present in our database; may not be complete.> With such a record against Anderssen, Suhle obviously was not a pushover. |
|Mar-28-05|| ||Gypsy: Problem with Sonas numbers is not his formulas, but that his samples are very bursty and have significant ommisions. This is certainly true for the data from 100+ years ago and probably the war eras as well. |
|May-03-05|| ||edsauced: In chessmetrics, Suhle only has 4 tournaments listed:
1.- Destroyed 17-31 by Anderssen in 1859
2.- Wins 7.5-2.5 a match vs. an unrated player (Von Guretzky) in 1860. Until now nothing special, maybe he is a player #10 or so in the world, but after 3 years of inactivity, he losses his rating, and gets a new one based on 2 good results.
3.- Draw 4-4 a match vs. Anderssen 1864.
4.- Blows 8-1 a rated player (Hirchfeld) in 1865, catapulting him to #1 of the world. After that he disappears from tournaments.
Anyone can explain me how these last 17 games outweigh the whopping in 48 games in the first Anderssen match.
|May-20-05|| ||fgh: Another mysterious player :-)|
|Oct-05-08|| ||Agent Bouncy: Does anyone know where to find the scores of the Suhle-Hirschfeld match games?|
|Feb-02-09|| ||Mibelz: Berthold Suhle was born in Stolp (S³upsk, Pommerania, then Kingdom of Prussia, now Poland), studied philosophy, philology and nature in Berlin (1855-1957) and Bonn (1857-1859), and was named a professor in 1895.|
He won a match with Bartolomeo Forlico (11.5 : 9.5) at Venice 1858, lost to Adolf Anderssen (+0 5 =2) at Cologne 1859 and (+13 27 =8) in Breslau from April to September 1859, won against Bernhard von Guretzky-Cornitz (+6 1 =3) at Berlin 1860, drew with Anderssen (+3 3 =2) at Berlin 1864, and beat Philipp Hirschfeld (+7 0 =2) at Berlin 1865.
|Aug-19-12|| ||Karpova: On December 20, 1858, he scored +6 =2 in a blindfold exhibition in Berlin. At the age of 21, he had already given a 4-games blindfold exhibition in Venice.|
Source: Page 38 of the 1905 'Wiener Schachzeitung'