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|Sep-23-13|| ||Abdel Irada: <offramp: The first woman to appreciate the inherent logic behind the game of chess was Caroline Steinitz.>|
I only hope she didn't tell Wilhelm to keep a sense of perspective. As Douglas Adams reminds us, if there is one thing we cannot afford to have in this universe, it is a sense of perspective.
|Dec-05-13|| ||Karpova: Hartston was also a victim of plagiarism, here is the interesting (and entertaining) article by Justin Horton: http://streathambrixtonchess.blogsp...|
|Dec-05-13|| ||Shams: No points for guessing who is on the other end of the plagiarizing!|
|Dec-05-13|| ||RedShield: Ray is a mine of new and useless information. Bill's site: http://www.wakkipedia.com/|
|Apr-12-14|| ||RedShield: <A former British Chess Champion and current World Cluedo Champion have proved an unlikely source of Friday night entertainment by simply watching TV.|
William Hartston, of Willow Walk, Cambridge says he got roped into being on Channel 4’s Gogglebox after his friend of 17 years, Josef Kollar, asked him to appear on screen with him.
The award winning show features recurring British couples, families and friends sitting in their living rooms watching and commenting on weekly British television shows.
Bill, 66, a columnist and opera critic for The Daily Express and former Maths student at Cambridge University’s Jesus College, said: “I asked Josef if it was completely crazy and he said yes, so I said why not.
“The whole thing is so unusual, for me it’s such a break from real life in many ways. Most of the people on the programme are habitual TV watchers but for us its something a bit unusual to be sitting watching TV for three hours.”
The pair met at a Monopoly charity walk in London and contrary to speculation are not a gay couple.>
Read more: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/New...
|May-04-14|| ||RedShield: I don't know why this odd couple are on the programme. Their contributions are always the briefest and most perfunctory. But Bill did reveal that he once set the questions on chess for an episode of <Mastermind>. The occasion for this being that a contestant chose Bobby Fischer as his specialist subject, a couple of weeks ago.|
Unfortunately, I only became aware of this today, and the relevant episode is no longer available on the iPlayer:
|May-04-14|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Red.
Here are the 11 question from the above programme.
1. At what age did Bobby Fischer become chess champion of the US?
2. Which Hungarian emigree and scientist may have been Fischer's real father, though he is not named on the birth certificate?
3. Fischer accused the Russians of fixing the 1962 Candidates tournament. In which publication did he make that accusation?
4. Which Russian player did Fischer defeat in 1972 in Reykjavik to become World Champion?
5. During the championship match, the Russians asked that Fischer's chair be inspected for 'sinister devices'. What was discovered by the search?
6. At which 1959 international tournament did Fischer first defeat the Estonian Paul Keres, and establish his reputation with the Soviet GMs?
7. Fischer failed to arrive on time for a scheduled game in the WC match in 1972. Which statesman called him twice to try to save the match?
8. To which player did Fischer lose all 4 of their games in the '59 WC candidates?
9. Fischer defeated D. Byrne at age 13 in the 'game of the century'. On which number of move did he deliver mate?
10. Fischer was wrongfully arrested for bank robbery in 1981. What was the name of the pamphlet he published about it?
11. What opening was used by Fischer in his game against Botvinnik in the Varna Olympiad?
I never got Fischer's Dad or the mating move number in the Game of the Century went for 36.
|May-04-14|| ||RedShield: I didn't get 6 and 9. Q4 is absurd. I'm not sure that the answers to Qs 5 and 7 are factually established beyond question. What did the contestant score?|
|May-04-14|| ||Sally Simpson: If I recall he got 4 wrong.
Fischers Dad, The Botvinnik opening, The game of the century mate number and where Ficher beat Keres. (I think I'm right.)
As Fischer only played in one world title match Q4 was an odd.
(wonder how many here will get it wrong...."It was either Taimanov or Petrosian.")
I've read about the two dead flies found in the chair many times, Kissinger I don't know if it happened but Kissinger was the answer.
|May-05-14|| ||Granny O Doul: The two dead flies were found in the lighting fixture, btw. Not the chair.|
|May-05-14|| ||Sally Simpson: What ever.
The lad answered 'two dead flies' and was given correct.
Sounds like a typical off-beat Bill Hartston question.
When I played in tournaments I always took along to dead flies and selotaped them to my chait to make me play better.
|May-05-14|| ||TheFocus: Hmmm. The Dead Fly Defense.
Gonna have to remember that one.
|May-05-14|| ||RedShield: <Sounds like a typical off-beat Bill Hartston question.>|
I didn't mean that Hartston had set these questions. He was talking about the dim and distant.
On reflection, I'm not sure the veracity of the claim behind Q11 is certain either.
|May-05-14|| ||RedShield: <Fischers Dad>
I'm astonished that a chess lover, let alone a Fischer 'specialist', wouldn't know this. It's been common knowledge for over a decade.
|May-05-14|| ||keypusher: It's easy enough to guess what they're going for on #5, but I believe the flies were found in a light fixture. I guess they would say the fixture was inspected as part of the same search. I thought they did find a block of wood in Fischer's chair that wasn't in Spassky's, or maybe it was the other way around. |
With #7, I thought Kissinger only called him once, but again it's pretty easy to guess what they're going for. I knew all the others.
|May-05-14|| ||TheFocus: I got all 11.
|May-05-14|| ||RedShield: Everything's bigger in America, even the liars.|
|May-05-14|| ||keypusher: <RedShield: Everything's bigger in America, even the liars.>|
What kind of stupid git doesn't know the answers to nos. 6 and 9?
|May-05-14|| ||RedShield: If you're not careful, I'm going to hunt you down, and put my foot up your jacksy.|
|May-12-14|| ||offramp: William Hartston is one of the best and funniest chess writers. But he also writes on many other subjects. Unfortunately whatever newspapers he writes for do not appear in the union section of the Venn diagram of newspapers I regularly buy. His chess books are always worth buying - but I don't know about his other books.|
|Aug-05-14|| ||zanzibar: Here's an interesting article about Hartston failing to make GM:|
It includes these statement about English chess:
<JB: It doesn’t sound like not getting the title bothers you any.
BH: No, no (laughs). It never did.
I never wanted to be a weak grandmaster. Ambitions tend to be counter productive. If you’re going to try to reach a particular level, I’ve always felt that when you get to that level you ought to see the next level as attainable. I think that this is one of the reasons that the British were so crap at chess for so long. Once you’d become the British Champion there was nowhere to go. There was such a big leap between British Champion and good international player that people were just stuck at the level.
JB: By ‘crap for a long time’ you’re thinking of which era? The '60s?
BH: Up to and including mine. (Laughs)
JB: There does seem to have been quite a change in the late '60s with yourself, Ray Keene, Andrew Whiteley and Mike Basman coming through.
BH: I think we were the intermediate generation. There was the Penrose-Golombek-Alexander era which had no way of competing with the top Eastern Europeans and just got completely overtaken by them in the '50s and '60s. Then Keene and I, and Basman maybe, we introduced a sort of professionalism without being professional: professionalism in terms of attitude to the game. I think that sort of set the road to the next generation of Miles and Short, Stean maybe, just to completely overtake us.>
And, for the record, Hartston says that Uhlmann never offered him a draw at Hastings 1972/73.
|Aug-10-14|| ||perfidious: This supposition by Jonathan Bryant in the interview cited by <zanzibar> is interesting but probably not quite correct:|
<So that’s that. The story is just a myth after all. It seems, though, that had Hartston got that extra half-point he would have become a Grandmaster. Not at Hastings but after he’d collected a further two norms much later in his career.>
Had Hartston indeed made the norm at the beginning of 1973, that performance would have only counted towards his pursuit of the title for three years under the regulations then in force, a situation very much unlike today, where norms made do not expire, so far as I know.
|Oct-12-14|| ||offramp: I was surprised to see him and his friend Josef on Channel 4's Gogglebox.|
|May-10-15|| ||TheFocus: <Chess is a contributor to net human unhappiness, since the pleasure of victory is greatly exceeded by the pain of defeat> - Bill Hartston.|
|May-25-15|| ||TheFocus: <For however magnificent his best games, however impressive his match victories, Spassky is destined to be remembered primarily one thing: He was the man who lost to Bobby Fischer> - William Hartston.|
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