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|Jun-21-05|| ||Hesam7: I am looking for a book by Petrosian which is actually a collection of his articles. I think it is published after his death. Can anyone help?|
|Jun-21-05|| ||Perkins: I have that book. Kasparov, on the back says "This book is a treasure." Of course, hes a fellow armenian.|
Its in a box somewhere, in my closet, I think its called "Petrosian's Legacy". its ok, no better or worse than the nice articles available at ChessCafe.
|Jun-21-05|| ||TheAlchemist: Something about Petrosian's wife Rona, who was a very important part of Petrosian's life, an excerpt from a translated article by Alexander Roshal (I hope I wrote it correctly), editor of "64".|
She was very respected among all other chess players. There was a witty story about her and Tigran, that Tigran was the master of exchanges, those where he exchanged Bishops for Knights, but Rona was responsible for every other change in his life.
Her Tigr died in August 1984 and for the next 19 years she organized parties for his friends on his birthday. Just a week after the last, 19th, Rona and Tigran were reunited again.
Rona sacrificed his career for her husband. She was a professional English translator, but quit her job immediatly after their marriage. She devoted her entire life to her husband's chess career. And that became her new job.
Rona Yakovljevna was in fact a brilliant psychologist. During Petrosian's match with Spassky a very important game was adjourned and the next day Petrosian missed a win. He just kept thinking, how could he miss a simple win like that. He couldn't be consoled, Roshal just couldn't do it. They split and both went home. Aftera while, the turbed Roshal called Petrosian's home, and the oldest son Misha answered. Roshal asked what was going on, and Misha answered that it was like hell and told Roshal to come quickly.
After 5 minutes or so, Roshal arrived and heard someone shouting: "Where are those damn pills?" When Roshal came in, he saw a terrible scene. The place was a total mess, Tigran was running from room to room and looking for something. In the bedroom, Rona just lay still and her head was covered with a wet towel. She was silently lamenting about a terrible migraine. Tigran was competely out of his mind and when Rona and Roshal finally remained alone for a moment, Roshal complained: "Today everything seems to be going wrong. First Tigran's chess, now your headache..." She silently took off her towel and hissed: "You really don't understand anything." Only then, Roshal understood her "game". She knew too well, that she was the only thing, that could get Tigran's mind off chess. She acted out the migraine prefectly, and of course, Tigran easily won the next game with Spassky.
|Jun-21-05|| ||TheAlchemist: Some writings by Sosonko:
Rona's maiden name was Avinezer andshe was 4 years older than Tigran. She had already an unsuccessful marriage behind her and she had a son, Misha, from her first marriage. Tigran loved Misha like his own son Vartan and Misha too called him as father.
Another famous chess player wanted to marry Rona at the time - Efim Geller. Rona flirted with both of them nad couldn't make up her mind. In 1952, when both players went to Sweden for an interzonal, she was asked about it and she said, she would marry whoever would perform better in the interzonal. Petrosian finished .5 points ahead of Geller and in spite of not winning the tournament, he certainly got the first prize - Rona. He won her beloved wife.
And a story from Sveshnikov:
It was 1977 when he and Petrosian went to a Christmas tournament in Hastings. He explicitly remembered, how caringly and lovingly Rona accompanied Tigran to the airport.
They went shopping on the rest day and Sveshnikov bought a suit and a shirt, while Tigran wanted to buy a mini-tractor for his weekend house, slippers for his wife and toys for the children. He didn't even think about himself. Finally he made up his mind, and bought the kids beautiful sunglasses and for his wife, he bought the supposedly most expensive slippers in England. When Sveshnikov asked him, why he bought those, Petrosian answered: "What do you mean, why? I have only one wife and I love her very deeply!"
|Jun-21-05|| ||TheAlchemist: Oh, and it's beautiful the way the chessboard reflects in his glasses :-)|
|Jul-02-05|| ||ThunderStorm: Another side of Petrosian that is rarely seen...thanks The Alchemist!|
|Jul-02-05|| ||SnoopDogg: Wow <TheAlchemist> Please bring us more of those wonderful stories!|
I'm not kidding when that almost brought tears to my eyes.
|Jul-03-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: It did - to mine. (sd)
|Jul-03-05|| ||OneArmedScissor: <she would marry whoever would perform better in the interzonal.>
Those boys got played!|
|Jul-04-05|| ||larsenfan: Hi everybody, perhaps you can help me. I am interested at finding books written by Petrosian ( not about him ) and I know that he wrote Petrosian's legacy. The point is that I am spanihs speaker and there is a book whose spanish title is "Ajedrez en la cumbre " by Petrosian ( something like Chess at top or height, something like that). I want to know if both are the same book in different languages or different books.
I will appreciate your help, thanks a lot.|
|Jul-04-05|| ||jamesmaskell: Search amazon...they must have a spanish version of the site. Search for Author Petrosian. Make sure you're looking at the right petrosian mind you.|
|Jul-14-05|| ||mormonchess: I enjoyed those Petrosian stories too. He was certainly different in style and personality than the serious, machine-like Botvinnik.|
Would love to hear more!
|Jul-14-05|| ||euripides: <the serious, machine-like Botvinnik.> welcome to the site ! A well-put expression of a frequent view, but I don't believe it. Botvinnik was stranger - more obsessive, sometimes more paranoid and hostile, and sometimes warmer - than this picture. He had a particular liking for Shostakovich's music: and the quality he admired (rightly) was its mischievousness.|
|Jul-14-05|| ||AlChess: I have recently bought a couple of books about Petrosians games one by Colin Couch "How to defend in chess" and another "Petrosian the Powerful" by Andy Soltis. Good books with bit of bio information about Petrosian and his wonderful games. Do you know that Petrosian beat every world chess Champion from Euwe to Kasparov at some point in their career expect Alekhine who he never played. I don't think there is any other player who was a world champ who can boast of that sort of achievement of beating 8 other world champions. Just checked Botvinnk did 8 as well. My mistake!!!|
|Jul-19-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: <AlChess> Good point.|
|Jul-20-05|| ||TheAlchemist: Sorry to disappoint everybody, but those were all I had. I hope I can find some more. Meanwhile, I have posted some anecdotes about the following players (and I will add some more to the list shortly): Rudolf Spielmann, Adrian Mikhalchishin, Boris Spassky and Ossip Bernstein. |
I will add shortly some more anecdotes about Mikhalchishin, Beliavsky, Dorfman and hopefully some others. Until then, it's back to lame puns for me. :-)
|Aug-07-05|| ||larsenfan: Hesam 7, the book your are looking for is Petrosian s Legacy, and it is a compendium of his articles, games, conferences...it has been edited by Editions Erebouni, and I bought it in www.abrilbooks.com, it costed around 12 US dollars . Actually is a extremely interesting book, but I warn you the edition is quite bad, thre are plenty of spelling mistakes and a very unclear traducction -sometimes even confussing, nevertheless I should say that english is not my language- all the same, from my point of view it is a very good book, you can learn and enjoy.|
|Aug-13-05|| ||ARTIN: Petrosian was a huge fan of opera. He particularly liked Verdi and Wagner|
|Aug-26-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Petrosian was a very interesting person, he had a very wide range of hobbies. Like Botvinnik before him, he was not just a great chess player, but also a deep and an original thinker. |
And his chess games are virtually unlike any other master who ever lived.
|Aug-30-05|| ||TheAlchemist: Fun trivia:
Petrosian was a big fan of both soccer and ice-hockey club Spartak Moscow, and, later in his career, used to make short draws everytime there was a game on the same day, and went to see it.
|Aug-30-05|| ||Resignation Trap: For a more complete picture of Petrosian as a player, I would recommend the two-volume series "The Games of Tigran Petrosian" by Eduard Shekhtman. I bought the set from a friend a few years ago at a bargain I couldn't pass up, and they have since become some of my more prized posessions. For a review of Volume I (1942-1965) go here: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... .|
|Aug-30-05|| ||Hesam7: <Resignation Trap> As you said the discussion on Kramnik's page belonged to here. As far as I see you are very lucky my friend! I searched the web for the two volumes you recommended and it is hard to find an online bookstore which sells them.|
|Aug-31-05|| ||chancho: The two volume games collection is indeed well worth the money, but "Petrosian's Legacy" is best left on a bookshelf gathering dust.|
|Aug-31-05|| ||ARTIN: I disagree, "Petrosian's Legacy" is a book that teaches how Petrosian thinks and I think every positional player should read it. Of course, it's not for a player who has a rating of 1800. You have to be pretty mature.|
|Aug-31-05|| ||chancho: <Artin> You are entitled to your opinion. I respect that. But if I had to choose between "Petrosian's Legacy", or Nimzowitsch's "My System", I would choose "My System" everytime. <you have to be pretty mature> What the hell is that supposed to mean? Petro's lectures were not that complicated to understand in spite of the typos, I just think it's instructional value is way overrated for the money I spent in that book.|
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