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Apr-24-09 | | stanleys: Another pic of him:
http://www.e3e5.com/upload/articles... |
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Jun-13-09
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Jun-13-09 | | myschkin: . . .
plus <BID> should submit his pic via the the Spanish fed a tiempo! http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?... |
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Jun-13-09 | | WhiteRook48: <DeepBlade> doesn't the Zaitsev continue 9...Bb7 10 d4 Re8? |
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Jun-15-09 | | WhiteRook48: player of the day again?! |
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Jun-15-10 | | mercurio3: Jun-15-06 BIDMONFA: Alexander Zaitsev
ZAITSEV, Alexander
http://www.bidmonfa.com/zaitsev_ale...
En efecto, la foto no es de Zaitsev, sino de Flohr. |
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Nov-28-10 | | I play the Fred: Eugene Torre is cited as the first Asian GM but the distinction should rightfully go to Zaitsev, born and raised in Vladivostok, in Asian Russia. |
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Nov-28-10 | | BobCrisp: He could have been born in a stable, but that wouldn't have made him a horse. |
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Nov-28-10 | | I play the Fred: So a person from Asia wasn't Asian then, Bob? I don't understand how Zaitsev doesn't count. |
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Nov-28-10 | | BobCrisp: Does he look Asian to you? http://www.e3e5.com/upload/articles... (assuming that's him). |
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Nov-28-10 | | I play the Fred: No, but I don't think that his appearance has anything to do with his point of origin. If they had called Zaitsev the first black GM, well, that would be nonsense. But he <is> from Asia. |
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Nov-28-10 | | BobCrisp: He's from Asia but he's not Asian. |
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Nov-28-10 | | I play the Fred: I see what you're saying, but I read the phrase "Asia's first GM" as referencing the region, not the player's ethnic background. I suppose <chessgames.com> decides this by ethnicity, not regionally. |
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Nov-28-10 | | BobCrisp: Is <Nakamura> America's first Asian GM? |
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Nov-28-10 | | I play the Fred: I don't know. But the bio wasn't phrased "Torre is the Phillipine's first Asian GM" - it only stated Asian, which to me implies the entire continent. |
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Jun-15-12 | | brankat: R.I.P. GM Zaitsev. |
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Feb-12-16 | | ughaibu: <He's from Asia but he's not Asian.> Here's a page of images of Vladivostok natives: https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=v... Are we really supposed to believe that whether any particular native is Asian or not, is decided by some arbitrary notion based on their looks? What then, apply the standard to Americans? So, Fischer was European. Sorry yanks, maybe you'll have a world champion from the Cherokee, some time. |
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May-02-16 | | Howard: The May issue of "Chess Monthly" has a letter from someone in Toledo pointing out that Alexander Zaitsev--not Torre, as an earlier issue stated--was Asia's first grandmaster. |
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Sep-30-16 | | Howard: And "Chess Monthly" just repeated the error in its latest issue! They at least ran a letter that I wrote to them about it, in their May issue. |
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Oct-31-16 | | TheFocus: Rest in peace, Alexander Zaitsev. |
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Apr-15-17 | | Howard: Zaitsev was Asia's first grandmaster---not Torre! This myth has been going on for way too long! |
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Apr-15-17 | | joeyj: I think it is more of FIDE designation to what Zone a country belongs. We have ZONAL events and as far as Asian Chess Championship is concerned: The Asian Chess Championship is a chess tournament open to all players from Asian chess federations (FIDE zones from 3.1 to 3.7). And Russia (Zone 1.6) where Alexander Zaitsev belongs is not a member of Asian Chess but of Europe or European Chess Union. Europe do have European Chess Championships where Russian players participates. http://web.archive.org/web/20080103... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europ... |
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Apr-15-17 | | joeyj: And how will you contest it when FIDE itself confirms that ... "Asia’s first Grandmaster, GM Eugene Torre of the Philippines, will be given a special “Lifetime Achievement Award” for his dedication and commitment to chess and his stellar record." https://www.fide.com/component/cont... |
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Jun-15-19 | | Ironmanth: Taken far too soon. RIP Alexander Zaitsev. |
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Jun-15-20 | | spektrowski: Zaitsev's chess player friends tried to convince him to undergo the operation in Moscow. But he insisted he'd do everything in Vladivostok, and it turned out tragic... |
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