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Levon Aronian
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Number of games in database: 2,512
Years covered: 1993 to 2018
Last FIDE rating: 2767 (2795 rapid, 2843 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2830

Overall record: +561 -221 =881 (60.2%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 849 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

With the White pieces:
 Slav (107) 
    D10 D11 D15 D12 D17
 English (100) 
    A13 A15 A14 A18 A11
 Queen's Pawn Game (93) 
    A45 E00 E10 A41 A46
 Queen's Gambit Declined (83) 
    D37 D38 D30 D39 D31
 King's Indian (79) 
    E60 E63 E61 E90 E62
 English, 1 c4 e5 (72) 
    A29 A20 A25 A21 A22
With the Black pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (334) 
    C84 C67 C65 C78 C89
 Ruy Lopez, Closed (136) 
    C84 C89 C87 C90 C86
 Queen's Gambit Declined (104) 
    D38 D39 D37 D31 D35
 Sicilian (98) 
    B90 B22 B76 B72 B51
 Grunfeld (65) 
    D85 D91 D76 D78 D94
 Queen's Pawn Game (65) 
    A45 D02 A46 E00 E10
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Aronian vs Anand, 2007 1-0
   I Sokolov vs Aronian, 2006 0-1
   A Giri vs Aronian, 2012 0-1
   Shirov vs Aronian, 2006 0-1
   Aronian vs Carlsen, 2017 1-0
   Aronian vs V S Popov, 2005 1-0
   W So vs Aronian, 2015 0-1
   Aronian vs A Giri, 2016 1-0
   Aronian vs Caruana, 2015 1-0
   Aronian vs A Volokitin, 2008 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004)
   FIDE World Championship Tournament (2007)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   41st World Junior Championship (2002)
   Linares 2006 (2006)
   4th FIDE Grand Prix (2009)
   Candidates Match: Aronian - Carlsen (2007)
   20th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2011)
   Tata Steel (2012)
   World Cup (2017)
   Tata Steel (2014)
   FIDE Jermuk Grand Prix (2009)
   Tata Steel (2013)
   Tradewise Gibraltar (2018)
   5th Individual European Chess Championship (2004)
   6th European Individual Championship (2005)
   FIDE World Cup (2005)
   Chess Olympiad (2012)

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   A Players Announced to Fredthebear's Audience by fredthebear
   English: Levon Aronian Collection by chess.master
   Power Chess - Aronian by Anatoly21
   Exchange sacs - 2 by obrit
   Best Attacking games book by Naidistsch by FLAWLESSWIN64
   Book of Samurai's favorite games 3 by Book of Samurai
   Book of Five Rings' favorite games by Book of Five Rings
   Match Carlsen! by amadeus

   🏆 Grand Chess Tour Paris (Blitz)
   Karjakin vs Aronian (Jun-23-18) 1-0, blitz
   Aronian vs Grischuk (Jun-23-18) 1/2-1/2, blitz
   Kramnik vs Aronian (Jun-23-18) 0-1, blitz
   Aronian vs W So (Jun-23-18) 1/2-1/2, blitz
   Caruana vs Aronian (Jun-23-18) 1/2-1/2, blitz

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(born Oct-06-1982, 35 years old) Armenia

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Levon Grigorievich Aronian was born in Yerevan and learned to play chess when he was nine years old. He is a former U12 (1994) and Junior (U20) World Champion (2002), became an International Master in 1996 at 13, and became a Grandmaster in 2000 at 17. He has been a Candidate on six occasions: 2007, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2016, and 2018.


<Age> In 1994, he won the World Under-12 Championship in Szeged with 8/9, ahead of future top-ten players Ruslan Ponomariov, Alexander Grischuk, Etienne Bacrot as well as Francisco Vallejo Pons. In 2001, he was runner up in the World Junior Championship with 9.5/13 just behind Peter Acs and went one better in 2002, when he became World Junior Champion, scoring 10/13 and finishing ahead of Surya Shekhar Ganguly, Artyom Timofeev, Luke McShane, Bu Xiangzhi, and Pentala Harikrishna.

<Nationals> He was runner up in the Armenian Championship in 2001 behind Smbat Gariginovich Lputian before improving in 2002 by winning the Armenian Championship.

<Continental> A regular participant at the European Individual Championships since their inception, he came =4th in 2003 with 8.5/13 behind the winner Zurab Alekseyevich Azmaiparashvili, and the joint runners up Alexander Yuryevich (Nenashev) Graf and Vladimir Malakhov in 2004 he came =3rd a half point behind joint leaders Vassily Ivanchuk and Predrag Nikolic and in 2005 he came =3rd, a point behind Liviu Dieter Nisipeanu and a half point behind 2nd place getter Teimour Radjabov.

<World> Aronian took part in the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004) in Tripoli, eliminating Magnus Carlsen and Gadir Guseinov before losing his third-round match with Pavel Smirnov. He capped a highly successful 2005 by winning the FIDE World Cup (2005) in December, without loss of a single game. After beating Ali Frhat, Darmen Sadvakasov, Alexander Areshchenko and Francisco Vallejo Pons in the preliminary 4 rounds, he disposed of Mikhail Gurevich in the quarter finals and Bacrot in the semi finals before defeating Ponomariov in the final round. His World Cup victory qualified him for the Candidates Tournament of the World Chess Championship 2007, being played in May–June 2007. In this tournament he played Magnus Carlsen in the Candidates Match: Aronian - Carlsen (2007), and they tied 3-3 in the initial six games, then 2-2 in rapid chess, before Aronian finally prevailed 2-0 in the blitz deciders. In the finals, he won the Candidates Match: Aronian - Shirov (2007) by 3½-2½. This qualified him for the final stage of the championship, the FIDE World Championship Tournament (2007) in Mexico City. There, he scored only six points out of 14, finishing seventh out of eight players, with Viswanathan Anand becoming the World Chess Champion.

Aronian easily won the FIDE Grand Prix 2008–2010, qualifying him for the World Championship Candidates (2011). He was was eliminated from the latter contest in the first round when he fell to Alexander Grischuk in the rapid game playoff 1.5-2.5 (+1 =1 -2) after tieing the classical games 2-2 (+0 =4 -0). Aronian qualified via his rating for the right to play in the World Championship Candidates (2013) that was played in London in March 2013. He was in contention for first for most of the tournament, but he lost some games late in the tournament to place 3rd with 8/14, half a point behind the leaders Carlsen and Vladimir Kramnik respectively. He was seeded into the World Chess Championship Candidates (2014) by rating, as he met the condition that he must first participate in the World Cup (2013), where he defeated Kyrgyzstani IM Mikhail Markov in the first round and Igor Lysyj in the second round but lost to eventual semi-finalist GM Evgeny Tomashevsky in the third round. At the World Chess Championship Candidates (2014) in Khanty-Mansiysk, Aronian was in strong contention for the lead until round 9, but then crashed to score only 3 draws in the last 6 rounds to finish 6th in the final standings.

He qualified by rating for the World Cup (2015). There he defeated Michael Wiedenkeller of Luxembourg in the first round to advance to the second round only to be eliminated from the tournament in the shock of the round when he lost in the first rapid tiebreaker to Alexander Areshchenko. Nevertheless he qualified for the Moscow Candidates Tournament 2016 as the event's wild card entry.


<Classical> At the International Open at Capelle-La-Grande in 2001, Aronian scored 7/9, half a point behind the joint leaders Einar J Gausel and Vladimir Chuchelov . At Lausanne a few months later, he won the Young Masters tournament ahead of Harikrishna. In 2002, he was equal first in the International Open in Bad Wiessee and was also =1st in the International Neckar Opens held in Deizisau in Germany in 2002 and 2003. In 2004, he was =1st in the Reykjavik Open and 2005 proved to be Aronian's most successful year thus far - it saw him gain over 50 FIDE rating points to claim a spot in the top 10 and a 2724 rating on the July list. He was joint first with Zahar Efimenko, Kiril Dimitrov Georgiev, Alexey Shirov and Emil Davidovich Sutovsky at the Gibraltar Masters (2005), outright first at the Karabakh International (2005) and won the World Cup (see above). He went on to even greater successes in 2006: after achieving a modest result in Corus (2006), he won in the last round of Linares (2006) to take first place by half a point ahead of Teimour Radjabov and Veselin Aleksandrov Topalov. Toward the end of the year he shared first place in the Tal Memorial (2006) 2006 with Peter Leko , and then followed up in 2007 with a joint victory with Topalov and Radjabov at the category 19 Corus (2007). The year 2008 started with a great success at Corus (2008) where he shared first place with Carlsen, scoring 8/13, and continued strongly as he came =3rd at Morelia-Linares (2008), and won the FIDE Grand Prix (2008) in Sochi and the 4th FIDE Grand Prix (2009) in Nalchik. Along with his joint second place score in the FIDE Jermuk Grand Prix (2009), Aronian secured his place in the candidates tournament by winning the FIDE Grand Prix series in just three of the four events each player was slated to attend. He also came =2nd behind Topalov at the Grand Slam Chess Final (2008) tournament alongside Ivanchuk and Carlsen with 5/10 and finished 2008 with outright second behind Topalov with 5.5/10 at the Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2008).

In 2009 he came =2nd with 7.5/13 at Corus a half point behind Sergey Karjakin and alongside Sergei Mushegovic Movsesian and Radjabov, took clear first place with four wins, one draw, and one loss in the Grand Slam Chess Final (2009). In November 2009, he competed in the Tal Memorial (2009), at the time the strongest tournament in history (in terms of average Elo, 2763). He finished fourth with 5/9, and in the final round memorably demolished world champion Viswanathan Anand with the Black pieces in just 25 moves. He was 3rd at Linares (2010) behind Topalov and Grischuk and in September 2010, he played in the preliminary stage of the Bilbao Grand Slam in Shanghai, the Shanghai Masters (2010), against Vladimir Kramnik, Alexei Shirov, and Wang Hao, but could not qualify for the final tournament after losing to Kramnik in an Armageddon game after they drew the tiebreaker match. In November 2010, he finished shared first with Shakhriyar Mamedyarov and Karjakin at the category XXI Tal Memorial (2010). He started 2011 with a joint third with Carlsen in the Tata Steel (2011) (formerly Corus) super tournament behind Hikaru Nakamura and Anand, scoring 8/13 with a 2821 performance rating. In November 2011, he came second in the category 22 Tal Memorial (2011) with 5.5/9 (+2 =7 -0 and TPR of 2853) on tiebreak behind Magnus Carlsen, and in December 2011 he broke even at the London Chess Classic (2011) with 4/8 (+1 -1 =6). Aronian started 2012 with his first outright win at Wijk aan Zee scoring 9/13 (+7 -2 =4; TPR of 2891) at the category 21 Tata Steel (2012) and then placed =4th at the category 22 Tal Memorial (2012) with 4.5/9 followed by 3rd at the Grand Slam Chess Final (2012) in October. He finished 2012 with a disappointing 3.5/8 at the London Chess Classic (2012), placing 6th out of 9 and losing his world number 2 ranking.

However, 2013 saw Aronian placing clear second behind Carlsen at the category 20 Tata Steel (2013) event, scoring 8.5/13 and signalling a strong return to form prior to the Candidates Tournament that was held in March 2013. Subsequent to the Candidates, Aronian won the category 20 Alekhine Memorial (2013) with 5.5/9 on tiebreak ahead of Boris Gelfand and then placed =4th at the category 21 Norway Chess Tournament (2013), scoring 5/9. In September he placed 3rd in the category 22 DRR Sinquefield Cup (2013) quadrangular tournament behind Magnus Carlsen and Hikaru Nakamura, falling below 2800 for the first time since September 2010. However, he recovered his form and his 2800 rating in a major hitout in the lead up to the 2014 Candidates by winning the category XXI quadrangular DRR Bilbao Masters (2013) using the "soccer scoring" system wherein his +2 =4 translated into an outright first with 10 points ahead of the 9 points (+2 -1 =3) scored by runner up Michael Adams. Possibly the best result of his career came when he won the category 20 Tata Steel (2014) event with a round to spare, the final score being 8/11, a point and a half clear of the field. He placed 2nd behind Carlsen in the category 23 standard time Zurich Chess Challenge (2014), even after losing his 5th round game to Loek van Wely. Immediately before the standard time event he was =1st with Carlsen in the preliminary Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2014) which determined the draw. He placed 3rd in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2014), which when combined with the results in the main event provided him with an overall placement of 2nd, again behind Carlsen. His next major event was the Sinquefield Cup (2014), and which produced a relatively poor result by his standards, 5th placement with 4/10. He performed better at the Bilbao Masters (2014), placing 2nd behind Anand on the 3-1-0 scoring system used for the event and at the Petrosian Memorial (2014), where he placed =3rd behind Grischuk and Kramnik.

2015 started poorly for Aronian with a relatively weak performance at Tata Steel (2015), scoring 5.5/13 (+1 -3 =9) and finishing toward the bottom of the field. He played in the category 20 GRENKE Chess Classic (2015), placing mid table. His form later in February did not improve, when despite a strong win in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2015) curtain raiser, he placed =4th (6th and last on tiebreak) at the category 22 standard portion of the Zurich Chess Challenge (2015). A strong second place finish in the second part of the event, the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2015), was not enough to put him on the leader board and he finished 4th overall. His woes deepened in June 2015 when he placed last at the category 22 Norway Chess (2015), dropping his rating to his lowest since July 2009, and resulting in him dropping out of the top 10 for the first time since January 2009.

However, he returned to form with a clear 6/9 (+3 =6) win at the category 22 Sinquefield Cup (2015), a full point clear of the four co-runners up including the World Champion Magnus Carlsen, Hikaru Nakamura, Maxime Vachier-Lagrave and Anish Giri. In December 2015, he placed fourth at the London Chess Classic (2015) with 5/9.

<Chess960> In 2003 Aronian won the Finet Chess960 open at Mainz; this qualified him for a match against Chess960 World Champion Peter Svidler at Mainz the following year, a match which he lost 4½-3½. He won the Finet Chess960 open tournament again in 2005 which earned him a rematch with Svidler in 2006, and this time he won the match this time 5-3 in an 8-game match to become Chess960 World Champion. In 2007 he successfully defended his title of Chess960 World Champion by beating Anand, but lost the title in 2009 to Nakamura.


Aronian played for Armenia 2 in the 1996 Olympiad in Yerevan, the 36th Olympiad (2004) in Calvia, the 37th Chess Olympiad (2006) in Turin, the 38th Olympiad (2008) in Dresden, the 39th Chess Olympiad (2010) in Khanty-Mansiysk, the Chess Olympiad (2012) in Istanbul and in the Chess Olympiad (2014) held in Tromsø. He helped the team to a bronze medal in 2004 and to gold medals in 2006, 2008 and 2012. In the 2010 Olympiad he won the silver medal for his individual performance on board one and in 2012 he went one better to win gold on top board.


Always a team player, Aronian has played in the German Bundesliga, the Israeli National League, in the Dutch, Spanish and French Team championships, in the European Club Cup as well as the World Team Championship (2005) and World Team Championship (2010). In the Russian Team Championship in 2005, he scored 7.5/9 with an Elo performance rating of around 2850, and in the World Chess Team Championship (2011) he lead Armenia to gold, scoring a personal silver for top board with his 5/8 (TPR 2826). He also won an individual gold playing top board for Armenia in the FIDE World Team Championship (2013). He has played for Armenia in the European Team Championships in 1999 (winning team gold), 2005, 2007 (individual silver), 2009. He lead Armenia to fourth place in the European Team Championship (2011) and in the European Team Championship (2013), winning individual silver and bronze on board 1 in 2011 and 2013 respectively. He won team and individual silver playing board one at the European Team Championship (2015).


In April 2012, Aronian and Vladimir Kramnik, as part of their preparation for the 2013 Candidates Tournament, played a six-game training match in Zurich. The Kramnik - Aronian (2012) match was drawn 3-3 (+1 -1 =4).


Aronian is a worthy successor to Anand in the rapid play versions of the game, and a fierce rival of Carlsen and Nakamura. In May 2007 he won 4-2 in the Kramnik - Aronian Rapid Match (2007). He also won the 2009 World Rapid Championship when he took out the Chess Classic Mainz (rapid) (2009), and then followed up by winning the World Blitz Championship (2010) with 24.5/38, clinching the title with a round to spare. In March 2008 he won the 17th Melody Amber blindfold/rapid tournament held in Nice, France, 2½ points ahead of the other nearest competitors. Apart from his first place win in the overall tournament, he also took sole first place in the Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2008) section of the tournament (winning by a margin of 1½ points) and shared first place in the Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2008) section with Kramnik, Alexander Morozevich, and Topalov. In March 2009 he again won at the Melody Amber tournament, scoring a combined 14 points in 22 games, and sharing the lead in both sections. In 2011, he won the 20th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2011) with 8.5/11 by a clear point and a half, and came second behind Carlsen in the 20th Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2011) section with 7/11 to take the overall prize for the third time. In June 2008, Aronian won the Karen Asrian Memorial (2008) rapid chess tournament in Yerevan, finishing with 8½/14 ahead of second placed Peter Leko. In August 2010, he attempted to defend the World Rapid Chess title, but lost to eventual champion American Gata Kamsky.

In December 2013, he placed =1st at the SportAccord World Mind Games (Men, Blitz) (2013) with 19.5/30. In June 2014, he was =2nd behind Carlsen at the FIDE World Rapid Championship (2014).


Aronian was declared the best sportsman of Armenia in 2005 and in December 2009 was awarded the title of "Honoured Master of Sport of the Republic of Armenia".


Aronian is only one of nine players to officially cross the 2800 boundary, the others being Garry Kasparov, Kramnik, Anand, Topalov and Carlsen, Fabiano Caruana, Nakamura and Grischuk. His highest FIDE rating to date was 2830 in March 2014 when he was ranked #2 in the world, also his highest ranking to date. He was world #2 for a total of 26 rating periods covering 29 months.

After Aronian's round 4 victory over US super-GM Hikaru Nakamura in the Zurich Chess Challenge standard time event on 2 February 2014, his live rating reached a new personal best of 2835.5.


His handle on the Internet Chess Club (ICC) is "L-Aronian". He is married to WIM Arianne Caoili .

Sources and references

Live rating:; Extended interview on WhyChess on 21 Sep 2011:; Wikipedia article: Levon Aronian

Last updated: 2018-03-27 15:42:12

 page 1 of 103; games 1-25 of 2,558  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. N F Nur vs Aronian 0-1341993Wch U12B70 Sicilian, Dragon Variation
2. Aronian vs M Sitnik 1-0411993Wch U12C55 Two Knights Defense
3. D Kozlenkov vs Aronian 1-0421993Wch U12C63 Ruy Lopez, Schliemann Defense
4. A Horvath vs Aronian 1-0561993Wch U12B78 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack, 10.castle long
5. Aronian vs N Das 0-1581993Wch U12D01 Richter-Veresov Attack
6. Aronian vs S Munizaba 1-0381993Wch U12B23 Sicilian, Closed
7. Aronian vs I Khamrakulova 1-0341993Wch U12A45 Queen's Pawn Game
8. Ngo Ngoc Quang vs Aronian 0-1321993Wch U12E60 King's Indian Defense
9. E Shaposhnikov vs Aronian 1-0601993Wch U12B55 Sicilian, Prins Variation, Venice Attack
10. Aronian vs A Zabailovich 1-0341993Wch U12B23 Sicilian, Closed
11. A Boldyrev vs Aronian  ½-½451993Wch U12B20 Sicilian
12. F Langheinrich vs Aronian 1-0301994EUch U12 DisneyB76 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack
13. Aronian vs A Khruschiov 1-0241994EU-ch U12A45 Queen's Pawn Game
14. Aronian vs O Kondarevich  1-0481994EUch U12 DisneyC16 French, Winawer
15. C Mamedov vs Aronian 0-1451994EUch U12 DisneyB78 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack, 10.castle long
16. E Khalilov vs Aronian  0-1331994EU-ch U12A07 King's Indian Attack
17. Aronian vs P De Bortoli 1-0211994EUch U12 DisneyD01 Richter-Veresov Attack
18. E Kobylkin vs Aronian 0-1491994EU-ch U12D86 Grunfeld, Exchange
19. Aronian vs D Mastrovasilis 0-1161994EU-ch U12B46 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation
20. V Shinkevich vs Aronian  ½-½251994EU-ch U12A05 Reti Opening
21. V Raceanu vs Aronian  0-1431994EU-ch U12D74 Neo-Grunfeld, Nxd5, 7.O-O
22. Aronian vs N Shavtvaladze 0-1411994EU-ch U12B52 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
23. Aronian vs H Geanta  1-0411994EU-ch U12C18 French, Winawer
24. G Szabo vs Aronian  0-1291994EU-ch U12B22 Sicilian, Alapin
25. M El Adnani vs Aronian 0-1221994Wch U12B23 Sicilian, Closed
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Jun-23-07  DUS:

Live games. Akopian, Sargissian, Kasimjanov, Morozevich and many others playing in Spain.

Jun-24-07  Hayasa: Topalov to match the winner of the 2007 World Cup
Jun-26-07  gus inn: I dont care about what you think , but I could easily fill many pages explaining why I dont care, So perhaps I did care ??
Anyway : God bless Aronians !!
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  ARMENIA: I see some of you have gotten engaged in a heated argument:) <StrongestForce> With great pleasure you are welcome to use my phrase that has become so famous at

<whatthefat> I did read your response to <DUS> and your words about me being a blatant nationalist who is offending all...

Well, let me see how I am going to respond to your comments... Hmm, of course all know that I am engaged in the matters of any kind that has Armenians involved so I respectably say that I am not offending anyone by calling my fellow Armenians great but may be overusing their success. That is a perfectly fine deed since I am very proud of their accomplishments and like to emphasize them for all:)

I apologize if I offended anyone by overusing this topic but the fact is that I am an Armenian and a damn pround one and well I think I like how that all sounds:)

<DUS> and all who talked about soccer... It is a damn shame that the games with Azerbaijan got canceled because now we would miss out on the 6 points we would have EASIELY gained... I use CAPS because that is a given... To further promote my arguments just look at the matches both have played in their group and compare the scores they lost by... Armenia has a dominance in all sense of the word but I will stay humble and wish all luck:)

I am not saying we will qualify for the world cup BUT I promise it will happen before I am history.. (At least I hope that happens)...

O I really really really hope that we can play well against Portugal and not draw or lose but WIN! New and great mentality by the Armenians... Screw all... EVERYONE FORWARD and try to SCORE!!!!!!!!

GOAL !!! AM I dreaming?

God Bless Armenia

Jun-28-07  khursh: <ARMENIA:> The pitty is that both football team, Armenia and Azerbaijan, got 0 points. This is full disrespect towards both Az. and Arm. since other teams got advantage. If they were so wise to cancel games, at least they could give 2 points to each team (2-2) like if they drew both games. I think that this could be much better and fair than the 0-0 one.

PS In sport nothing is easily gained :)

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  ahmadov: <aremenia><It is a damn shame that the games with Azerbaijan got canceled because now we would miss out on the 6 points we would have EASIELY gained...> The Azerbaijan team won Finland, which are quite good in football. So, I think it is difficult to say what would be the outcome of those matches. Actually, many in Azerbaijan think that we missed 6 points to improve our position on the table...
Jun-28-07  ArmeniaNL: <ahmadov> I have a question to you. Why azeris did want to plays with us in azerbaijan. in armenia there was no problem both in goverment and in nations to play a game with azeris. but in azerbaijan you did not like to face us in your home land. do you really hate us so much? for example, in armenia there is not such a big hate towards azeris,
Jun-28-07  Davolni: Davo jan baylus, aper rad ara et dran vabshe eli. mardu tex mi dir et vochxarin, voch el harc marc tur aper. eli shuxura helnelu, iskakanic haves chka. eni ova vor mi hat el ira kartsike hartsnenk menk vabshe?
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  ARMENIA: <ahmadov> <ArmeniaNL> <khursh>

Gentlemen thank you for replying to my posts. <Ahmadov> I am glad you are defending Azerbaijan as I respect a good citizen would:)

<ArmeniaNL> <khursh> I think UEFA made a terrible misjudgement. They shouldn't have had those teams in the same group since they knew no outcome could be resolved. That cost both teams valuable points... In the future we probably will see a different decision similar to changing the group immidietly if they are drawn together.

UEFA should know the political difficulties between the countries and should not try to be a hero and try to resolve it on the football field.

I doubt we will see Israel and Palestine playing each other in competitive sports... Of course I wish there was a way around and I also wish that sports would be an exception in this matter but I remember when Iran beat the US in world cup with a score of 2-1 back in 1998 and celebrated as if they had won the trophy:)

<ahmadov> I have been reading your posts recently and I think you have changed your opinion or at least have softened your views on the geographical and political differences both of our countries have. This probably isn't expected of me to say but I appreciate your company and your wise comments on chess in general.

As humans we are nothing more than shadows and dust... Can anyone say what movie this is from?


Jun-28-07  Akavall: Why were Armenia - Azerbaijan games canceled?
Jun-28-07  Davolni: <Armenia> jan bari or aper. es vor grel es turke ira kartsiknere poxela, kam papkacrela, shat sxal es mtatsum im kartsikov. Es himare cameleona aper, du chgites vor srank ropen mek iranc kashin poxum en? stex iran dzeva talis vorpes xelok xelatsi txa,hetevic brnum dzera arnum mez u mnacac hayerin. Eti turka, dra asats barin vonc karas havatas? u vabshe yes kez u bolor hayerin xorhurd ktam dra het voch tas voch arnes. vorovhetev inke iran drela enenc kirt u zargacac txu tex, bayts tsankatsats pahi inke galua u mtnelua u mez dzer a arnelu. Ira es kulturakan paheladzevin mi xabnvek. Yes <ArmeniaNL> Davoin el asetsi vor esi vochxari mekna, sran ski charji vabshe mardu tex dnel.
Jun-28-07  khursh: <Akavall: Why were Armenia - Azerbaijan games canceled?>

Two words - unresolved conflict

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  ahmadov: <ArmeniaNL: <ahmadov> I have a question to you. Why azeris did want to plays with us in azerbaijan. in armenia there was no problem both in goverment and in nations to play a game with azeris. but in azerbaijan you did not like to face us in your home land. do you really hate us so much? for example, in armenia there is not such a big hate towards azeris,>

<<<<I am ready to answer to you question but with one condition that this will not cause any bickering by your side, because I promised to <CG> not to be involved in any dispute concerning to the Azeri-Armenian conflict>>>>

Well, people do not want Armenians to come to Baku or any other town of Azerbaijan as long as your keep the lands within our internationally recognized borders under occupation. Every clever person understands that to resolve a conflict one needs to start popular diplomacy and visits of reporters and sportsmen to each others' country, but occupation of lands is a matter of honour. I think things will change after our lands are liberated and every single Armenian will be able to visit here...

I make you sure that if we were the side occupying your territories then we would be more than happy to receive you here, and I expect you would be the side refusing... It is a very simple logic, isn't this...

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  ahmadov: <armenia><<ahmadov> I have been reading your posts recently and I think you have changed your opinion or at least have softened your views on the geographical and political differences both of our countries have. This probably isn't expected of me to say but I appreciate your company and your wise comments on chess in general.> No, I have changed nothing in my views. I just promised <CG> not to spoil their good job by arguing here about politics.

By the way, I just want to remind one statistics about football: Azeri and Armenian clubs met four time after the collapse of the Soviet Union. One game was drawn, three were won by the Azeri teams. One game was won by the Azeri team by default because the Armenian team refused to play in Moscow last year. The most prominent win of an Azeri club was Neftchi's win over Pyunik. The Azeri team won the CIS Cup after that win... I am sure you know about all this...

Jun-29-07  dshxouhi: Dear friends,

This is a very nice page about GM Aronian's birthplace. I think it will be enjoyable reading for all of us.

Maybe after a long and successful career one day a chess school will be dedicated to Aronian's name there, similar to the Tigran Petrosian Chess Academy in Yerevan.

Jun-29-07  ArmeniaNL: <dshxouhi> as far as i know, aronian is not from kharabakgh, he his from noyemberyan region. please correct if i am wrong
Jun-29-07  DUS: <ArmeniaNL> I have been in Noemberyan often and know that many people came to that region from other places especially in past 20 years. (But I don't know the exact answer of your question.)
Jun-29-07  dshxouhi: <ArmeniaNL><DUS> That's where I see people saying most often he is from. Doing some checking, there seems to be conflicting biographical information on a birth city.

I'll correct myself then on the unknown birth city and only say that it would be nice to see Aronian achieve even more success and one day have a chess school dedicated to his name for future GMs of Artsakh region.

There are many great photos from this site when Aronian won first place in 'Karabakh 2005 International Chess Tournament.'

Does anyone have information on if more tournaments will be held in Stepanakert? Artsakh is a beautiful region with an ancient history and would make a good setting for more international chess events.

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  ahmadov: Aronian lost more rating points than anyone else on top 10 in the July rating list... Now he is in the 8th position in the rating list, the lowest since Janury 2006...
Jun-30-07  adair10: <ahmadov: Aronian lost more rating points than anyone else on top 10 in the July rating list... Now he is in the 8th position in the rating list, the lowest since Janury 2006... >

Unfortunately, true, But, first of all, in the same rating period he got qualified to WC in Mexico which is much more important than any rating loss. Many players would gladly give up even more rating points just to have a shot at WC. Secondly, most of lost points, 5 out of 9, came by beating low rated Carlsen and Shirov. Although their effective ratings at the time were 2704 and 2732 respectively, actual calculations were made based on their April ratings of 2693 and 2699 respectively. Other 4 points he lost in Bundesliga games from only 4 games played.

Overall, last reporting period was quite successful for Aronian. His victory over Kramnik, although in rapids, was part of it.

Jun-30-07  Hayasa: Davolni jan, Belgiaji chempionat@ sksvel e:
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  ahmadov: <Secondly, most of lost points, 5 out of 9, came by beating low rated Carlsen and Shirov.> I am sorry, but this does not make sense to me: how a player can lose a rating point by beating a lower rated player. I think this information should be checked because at worst a player does not gain any rating points if he beats an opponent with much lower rating... I agree with the other part of your post: he would not have lost so many points if his rapid match against Kramnik was taken into account...
Jul-01-07  cannibal: <ahmadov: <Secondly, most of lost points, 5 out of 9, came by beating low rated Carlsen and Shirov.> I am sorry, but this does not make sense to me: how a player can lose a rating point by beating a lower rated player. >

Against Carlsen, he definitely lost points, because he only drew him in classical games, and rapid games don't count for the list. Against Shirov, I don't know for sure. Would have to check with the FIDE rating calculator.

Of course a player can't lose any points against a lower rated player, if he wins every single game, but that's not what Aronian did.

Jul-01-07  adair10: <I am sorry, but this does not make sense to me: how a player can lose a rating point by beating a lower rated player.>

All is a matter of rating difference and points achieved. Bigger that difference, higher score needed for the favorite to gain points. Think of this. Anand, inspite of +1 score in Dortmund is going to lose 1 elo point because with this particular opposition in terms of average rating (2718) Anand with his 2786 elo needed +2 score to gain points (or about +1.2 to be on par). Same in Aronian's case. With his 2759 rating he lost 5.4 points by drawing Carlsen (2693) in 6 games. But even if he had one win he would have still lost .4 points. Opposite is also true. Because of higher oppositiion Naiditch could afford -1 score and still gain points in Dortmund.

Here is the FIDE site where you can familiarize yourself with calculations

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  ARMENIA: Samvuel Ter-Shahakyan of 13 years of age has 8 out of possible 8 points in Jermuk's International Tournament...

I @#$% you not... Levon Aronian needs to step on the gas before he is swept off his crown:)

Cheers to all established and rising stars of Armenia!

God Bless Armenia

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