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|Feb-15-12|| ||M61MG Wrestler: <=== UGH ===>|
<Joshka: <rannewman> Those notes were collected and written over decades, and according to reports I've read, they measure some 22 inches high stacked on top of one another! The bootlegged book was printed in Iceland 2007. IM Larry Day did a review for a Toronto newspaper, believe it's the Toronto Star. My copies are 2nd printing, have never seen a 1st printing. ..... So I'm hoping this all gets resolved soon!>
Anyone who wants to get drawn into another round of this fakery can continue here:
User: M61MG Wrestler
|Feb-16-12|| ||lamont: +++
The services for these 2 hoaxes
were held a long time ago on this site.
Too bad you missed their interment.
&&& you renege on an invitation ??
You extend our notion of sleaze-ball.
|Feb-16-12|| ||chancho: <Joshka (to TheFocus): You're behavior is very juvenile, childish....I thought I was writing to an adult, thanks for allowing me to see the real you.>|
Typical <Joshka> response when his B.S. is exposed.
I got a similar response back in 09 when I was mocking his crap about My 61:
<Jan-22-09 Joshka: <chancho> Allright, I guess no civil conversation with you either. You are very childish, LOVE this ignor feature! :-)>
I got a good chuckle from this <ughaibu> post that very day in regards to My 61:
<Jan-22-09 ughaibu: How does the claim go? Fischer's first memorable book was substandard and needed correcting. After he spent years obsessing that all games between Soviet players whose surnames began with a K were rehearsed but copied known games and were full of mistakes, as a service to the public he. . . . . I cant even be bothered finishing this, who could believe that Fischer wrote this book? Raise your hands. All you with your hands up, resign from any and all positions of responsibility, hand over your car keys and condoms, book a visit to the witch doctor for ten minutes from now.>
|Feb-16-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Shams, I have to disagree with you concerning "Enghamde" and "61."|
I simply cannot believe Brady would have written a biography of Fischer and not mention a book Fischer wrote.
|Feb-16-12|| ||Bobby Fiske: <<AlphaMale:> Any ideas on who these white women are?
They're in several others photos.>
I have seen these pictures before on the web. IIRC, the beautiful blonde with the necklage was the daugther of the American ambassador. Probably she accompanied Fischer during the honorable dinner. [This is what was suggested/mentioned the other place, so take it for what it is worth].
|Feb-16-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Oops, a little sloppy above: that should be "Endgame," of course.|
|Feb-16-12|| ||HeMateMe: Fischer photos take on the significance of the images in the Zapruder film, of the JFK assassination.|
|Feb-16-12|| ||Penguincw: Quote of the Day
< "Patzer sees check, patzer makes check." >
I assume it's this Fischer.
|Feb-16-12|| ||TheFocus: Poor <Joshka>. It was bad enough for you to be made to look silly over this whole <61> affair on the <Wrestler> page, but it amazes me that you can still cling to this sinking ship of a hoax.|
Why not just admit that you were duped into believing in a fraud? You are only making yourself look bad.
Or how about you send me copies of 100 pages and I will investigate them. Or tell us what games you have and how many pages of notes for each one.
You are a liar if you don't. You don't have a stack of notes 22 inches high.
I actually feel sorry for you.
|Feb-16-12|| ||timhortons: Looking at that youtube photo alphamale, sad no pgn of president marcos bobby fischer game survive.bobby must have acted in a diplomatic way, drawing some of games against marcos.|
|Feb-16-12|| ||timhortons: why keep resurrecting the 61 games joshka?|
|Feb-16-12|| ||Joshka: <timhortons> LOL It was resurrected by thefocus when he answered <rannewman>|
|Feb-16-12|| ||Jim Bartle: "The bootlegged book was printed in Iceland 2007."
What do you mean by "bootlegged" there, Joshka? Are you saying someone printed and sold the book without proper permission from Fischer or someone else who owned the rights?
|Feb-16-12|| ||chancho: <The Focus> said there were no 2007 notes. |
Not exactly a resurrection.
|Feb-16-12|| ||King Death: This whole thread has taken a funny turn. <TheFocus> is obviously very knowledgeable about things regarding Fischer and somebody that buys into a bogus line of argument comes in and starts, well, an argument. Talk about fighting with one hand tied behind your back! This is another vote for the side that says the earth is flat.|
|Feb-16-12|| ||IMlday: People who believed in the flat earth did not suddenly have a conversion to rationality. Rather they died off and the next generation had little resistance to the demonstrable idea of a spherical earth. |
These half-dozen anonymous internet posters passionately claiming certainties without giving verifiable sources have very little credibility in my opinion. Wiser minds prefer to wait for evidence before returning verdicts.
Many of the revised notes published in 2007 were likely written in Baguio circa 2000-2001. Here is information from someone closer to the scene,
Bobby Ang writing on August 31, 2010:
"...Bobby Fischer came to the Philippines in June 2000 with the express intention of getting married and having a child. That was, of course, not the only reason he came (for one he expressed a wish to do a revised edition of his 60 Memorable Games), but it was the main one.
In fact, around this time I was organizing the National Chess Federation of the Philippines (NCFP) which in August 2000 was to oust the Philippine Chess Federation (PCF) as the authorized governing body of chess here in the country. Naturally I had to stay in Manila to work out the organizational details, and this enraged Fischer because I could not go up to Baguio to work on his book..."
from Business Week, republished at:
|Feb-16-12|| ||TheFocus: I will only say it one more time, then I am done with this silly affair.|
Bobby Fischer said he had no part in <My 61 Memorable Games>. He was saddened that his name was used in this way.
<61> has already been proven to be a fake, a hoax, a fraud, however you want to say it.
For those people that want to believe in <61>, I want to remind you that Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy aren't real either.
|Feb-16-12|| ||chancho: <That was, of course, not the only reason he came (for one he expressed a wish to do a revised edition of his 60 Memorable Games), but it was the main one.> |
This really does not prove anything.
Fischer also said he was going to write a book exposing the Karpov Kasparov pre arranged games.
No such book exist.
|Feb-16-12|| ||chancho: The sad part of re-reading that chessbase article, is when Fischer asked why the baby did not have blue eyes, then relented, and accepted Jinky as his daughter.|
(Given the DNA results years later, the
poor guy got played.)
|Feb-16-12|| ||PinnedPiece: <chancho: <That was, of course, not the only reason he came (for one he expressed a wish to do a revised edition of his 60 Memorable Games), but it was the main one.>|
This really does not prove anything.
Fischer also said he was going to write a book exposing the Karpov Kasparov pre arranged games. No such book exist.>
Quite so, and not only that, but <IM LDay>'s quoted comment <Bobby Ang writing on August 31, 2010:
"...Bobby Fischer came to the Philippines in June 2000 with the express intention of getting married and having a child. That was, of course, not the only reason he came (for one he expressed a wish to do a revised edition of his 60 Memorable Games), but it was the main one.> is equally supporting evidence for where <Trice> got his original idea to create this "missing" book. One could argue that he knew this could give him cover. This has all been hashed over and over, and badly soiled by the layering of additional frauds and scams, additional lies and accusations, on the part of the principal scam artist. No part of his endeavor showed an honest intent. Every action ultimately resulted in another exposed element of fraud.
Go to the <M61MG Wrestler> pages and follow the story. It hasn't gotten mellower with time. The deceit is permanent.
|Feb-16-12|| ||drkodos: Nice to see some of the special Olympians here still trying to sort this out years after it has already been solved and put to sleep.|
|Feb-16-12|| ||King Death: < drkodos: Nice to see some of the special Olympians here...>|
Speak for yourself.
|Feb-16-12|| ||TheFocus: <lamont> I am putting the chapters from my Fischer book that I promised you in the mail today or tomorrow.|
My girlfriend got ahold of them and decided to reformat them. She did a fantastic job! The copies you are getting are even better than the ones I sent <parisattack>.
|Feb-16-12|| ||Joshka: <IMlday> Hi Larry, Hadn't read that piece by Ang, thanks for posting! One of your long time IM colleagues inquired about you this morning. I have his email address and I'll send it to you, if you want?|
|Feb-16-12|| ||TheFocus: Just bought <I Was Tortured in the Pasadena Jailhouse> by Bobby Fischer for $99.00. Thank you, eBay.|
There are two others for sale. One for $250 and the other for $175.
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