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| Apr-07-12 | | JoergWalter: <shach matov> you are so predictable: Good! The sorcerer, my old master
left me here alone today!
Now his spirits, for a change,
my own wishes shall obey!
Having memorized
what to say and do,
with my powers of will I can
do some witching, too!
Go, I say,
Go on your way,
do not tarry,
water carry,
let it flow abundantly,
and prepare a bath for |
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Apr-07-12
 | | harrylime: Fischer's chess was lucid and shiny bright.
His pages on this site are looking tired and anything but lucid.. zzz What a shame |
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| Apr-07-12 | | timhortons: <Carlsen as a player is the closest thing I've seen to Fischer in my lifetime.. Carlsen is a product of the internet age tho.. and the silicon age.for the creation of magnus carlsen> wrong assumption.
visit magnus page and read what the gurus had written, < rybka nor any other chess software is not a factor for the creation of magnus carlsen> this sound stupid but frogbert and rolfo who dine with the divine know it so well. |
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Apr-07-12
| | harrylime: ^^^
Right assumption..
live with it. |
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| Apr-07-12 | | shach matov: It's not just an assumption - he himself said that he used computers ever since he was 11 to prepare for tournaments; and he would pay on internet with other top players. Not that this fact diminishes his talent... |
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| Apr-07-12 | | timhortons: ok so rolfo and frogbert are wrong,anyways whos frog to establish truth about carlsen. |
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| Apr-07-12 | | JoergWalter: <timhortons>
rule #1:
the truth and the facts are always on <shach matov>'s side rule #2:
if this is not the case rule #1 applies.
I expect a simple "you are so right" from <Shach matov> |
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Apr-07-12
 | | Joshka: <JoergWalter><Fischers opinion on computers> Well he certainly was not opposed to playing them as demonstrated by his 1977 match against against the Greenblatt program from MIT in Cambridge, Ma. Which brings up some questions, has anyone from MIT come forward to write anything about the match?? Where did the match take place? When, the dates? How long was Fischer in Cambridge? Who from MIT was the contact person? Did they have to pay Bobby? Really nothing is available on this match except a few of the games? Thought Brady would have wrote about this, as he claims to be an expert on Bobby. |
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Apr-07-12
 | | keypusher: <timhortons: <Carlsen as a player is the closest thing I've seen to Fischer in my lifetime..
Carlsen is a product of the internet age tho.. and the silicon age.for the creation of magnus carlsen> wrong assumption.
visit magnus page and read what the gurus had written, < rybka nor any other chess software is not a factor for the creation of magnus carlsen> this sound stupid but frogbert and rolfo who dine with the divine know it so well.> I've never understood the point of making stuff up about what another kibitzer thinks or writes. Maybe you can explain why you are doing it, Tim? |
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| Apr-07-12 | | Jim Bartle: Here's an opinion which may be completely wrong.
But it seems to me all the databases and computer programs are a great leveler. Every player has access to so much information, and they don't have to work for it. The hard, efficient worker's advantage is lessened. Fischer was famous for his hard work. You could say he functioned as his own database and analytic program when few other players had them. Sure he would have improved with modern tools, but the competition would have had a chance to catch up. On the other hand, maybe Fischer would have found new ways to use dbs and computers and left the competition further behind. |
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Apr-07-12
| | Joshka: <JoergWalter> <maybe one of the reasons Fischer random didn't gain popularity> The most obvious reason, is that for years he preached and talked about Fischer random..."I only want to play a match using Fischer random, the old chess is dead"....he repeats this line over and over for many years, and never once does he play a public game of Fischer random, either in a tourney or match. So without any promotion, it never catches on. |
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| Apr-07-12 | | Jim Bartle: He was obviously too busy preparing for a multi-million dollar Gothic Chess match with Karpov. And writing "My 61 Memorable Games," of course. |
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| Apr-07-12 | | JoergWalter: <Joshka> really, it is hard to understand why he would play the computer. money is definitely not it. <In 1977 Bobby Fischer played 3 games against the MIT Greenblatt computer program. He turned down $250,000 to play one Chess game at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas and $3 million to play in a tournament in the Philippines> |
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| Apr-07-12 | | shach matov: <Jim Bartle: He was obviously too busy preparing for a multi-million dollar Gothic Chess match with Karpov...> How dare you say the truth about Fischer on this page - be careful, <JoergWalter> may not like it and will try to start an argument with you, as he already did today on Gelfand page... not that I mind the entertainment ;] |
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| Apr-07-12 | | JoergWalter: <shach matov> <Jim Bartle> seemingly has a sense of humor which you do not have. |
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| Apr-07-12 | | shach matov: Yea right... I don't think he was finding it funny when you tried to start a silly childish argument with him on Gelfand page when he said <I'm not looking for an argument> ;] |
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| Apr-07-12 | | JoergWalter: <shach matov> you don't have to speak for <Jim Bartle> read his bio, accept that he can speak for himself and keep silent. |
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| Apr-07-12 | | shach matov: Interestingly enough <harrylime> has matured very much lately. Now he is replaced by <JoergWalter> who is even more passionate in his defense of everything related to Fischer! <harry> was just a fan but <Joerg> is truly something else: completely obsessed with Fischer, he attacks anybody who he feels says anything even remotely insulting and worships his idol with the passion of a the most devoted wife! I know there is love and the kind which makes lovers write poetry to their beloved! <JeorgWalter> is not just a fan, he is a defender and a protector! Who needs a wife when he has Fischer? I just wish the passion was not so physical since we can't even post anything here anymore... ;] |
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| Apr-07-12 | | JoergWalter: <shach matov> never mind what others are saying about you. for me you are not a small duffer. |
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Apr-07-12
| | harrylime: <Schaco>
I always think it's a kind of homage, no maybe acknowledgement, of Fischer's 'greatness' that you're posting your silly nonesense on these pages .. A 'Gazza' fanboy like you surely should be concerned with other threads ?lol |
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Apr-07-12
| | harrylime: Fischer became the greatest and best chess player of all time before the advent and primacy of computers and silicon.. End of. |
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Apr-07-12
 | | HeMateMe: Did Fischer actually go to Cambridge Mass, to play the MIT chess program, or was this done remotely, BF being in Los Angeles or Pasadena? I'm thinking it was done with a remote set up, otherwise there would be a photo or two of Fischer in the playing room, perhaps with some large hardware connections not too far away. On the other hand, the MIT programmers were probably told by Fischer that if one single camera appeared, he would walk and would not come back. Being a disciplined sort, I can see the programmers not taking any photos of His Bobness. I read somewhere a Fischer comment on the Las Vegas offer: "Wait a minute. My title is on the line (one exhibition game). I'll need $1M. So, another sad chapter is written." BTW, Fischer hung out with Yasser Seirawn in 1992, when Yaz came over to cover the return match with Spassky, helt in Croatia and Belgrade. Yaz had his own chess magazine based in Seattle. He says that Fischer roundly praised Seirawan's book "Five Crowns" several times, and this was an unexpected benefit of their meeting. Apparently someone gave BF a copy of Yaz's book about the series of KK WC matches. He pointed out two misstakes in the notes to Seirawan. |
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Apr-07-12
| | harrylime: <Schaco>
With all due respects my friend but I remember not too long ago when you were posting pro Gazza gibberish on here and spelling Fischer'FISHER' .. Continually..
So er.. I find it difficult ever taking you seriously lol <Jeorg> can speak for himself, but I find you posting on these pages quite amusing ! |
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| Apr-07-12 | | shach matov: well more power to ya... I could never understand why people attack you simply because of your opinions - if they don't like it, they don't have to read. <but I find you posting on these pages quite amusing !> you will observe that I post here once or twice every other month (as fun as it is). although I didn't know one requires a license or an official permission to post here ;]] |
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| Apr-08-12 | | JoergWalter: <shach matov: I didn't know one requires a license or an official permission to post here> Does Santa Claus need a license to deliver gifts nobody really wants? |
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