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Apr-13-12
 | | harrylime: <Petrosianiac>
You are the biggest bore I've come across on this site.. and what's more, you can't play chess. And do not understand Fischer's chess ..
But you're an 'ever present' ..
so be it. |
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| Apr-13-12 | | I play the Fred: <harry>, how exactly do you determine people's playing strength by the comments they make? |
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| Apr-13-12 | | Petrosianic: He doesn't, he determines it by how uncritically devoted they are to Bobby, "lol". |
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Apr-13-12
 | | harrylime: <Pet> He doesn't ? He does'nt ? Huh?! Thought you'd succumbed to the head in the sand stuff ! lol <Petrosianic> I'm ordering you to put me on ignore.. You're an idiot. Inverted ignorism .. |
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| Apr-13-12 | | KKDEREK: Harry, Petrosianic, as far as I know , is a NM. He can play <some> chess. Here: cool it everybody:
http://www.youtube.com/user/coachel... |
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Apr-13-12
 | | harrylime: Was there any connection between 'Pulp' and chess ? <KKdEREK> .. I know I could wipe <Petrosianiac> off the board. |
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| Apr-13-12 | | KKDEREK: Music ..I know you like..Music is art, Bobby is art.. See the connection? (lol) |
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Apr-13-12
 | | harrylime: Back to Fischer..
Fischer had everything in chess.. Everything. The ultimate 'universal' player.. And that's before the DOMINATION of SILICON and the NET.. Fischer conquered the chess world and beyond. Fischer went 'BEYOND' the chess world more than any 'chess' player in chess history.. Fact. Fischer was/is the JamesDean/Ali chess equivalent.
Fischer essentialy has changed chess and influenced chess more than any other player in it's history. For the idiots on this site who put people on 'ignore' in knee jerk fashion .. Fischer has moved the game of chess along more than any other human being who ever existed.. |
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| Apr-13-12 | | MarkFinan: This is the last time i'll post on this page, mostly because everytime iv'e come to read things here before its just been a Fischer "droolathon", and also because i don't know enough about him to get into endless, repetitive debates..
Yes the man was one of the all time greats, but i'm not interested in his life one little bit, and anway... Iv'e been down this road before, and its a cul de sac! At least Harry know's his chess and chess history, although he doesn't always put his point across too well.. He openly admits he *loves* the guy, but so what?? If I can get over it, I'm sure the rest of you can?? <Petrosianac> Iv'e only spoke to you once before about a comment i made on the Rogoff page.. I think it was either on 9/11, Iran, or a hypothetical Nuclear war!!... I can't remember, but i do remember this. You waffled on and on and on over 1 paragraph, and Insinuated i was somehow racist! I'm not! (Unless you're a German football fan lol) so Harry was right about you waffling, but hey, we all do it, so what?
And i know you're not a patzer, but Harry's got well over a 100 rating points on you, so good luck should you ever play lol.. <King Death> Iv'e always found you pleasant enough, so i think it must be this page that makes you a little arrogant.. And finally <TheFocus/kolyas/eric/ernie>!! If you want me to prove you're <TheFocus> then come to my forum, lets not talk here, but it will get embarassing for you if you persist in denying it!!
And anyway, i was only messing with you about your book, and I'm not too bothered what handle you use either!! So telling me to <piss off> after one post was a little weird in Itself.
I sincerely hope you're in good health, i always liked <TheFocus>, although I'm not sure which one now haha...
You're only kidding yourself mate, but as *My* personal hero once sang........ Whatever gets you thru the night?? Peace out guys :) |
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| Apr-14-12 | | Limpin Kt: Er, did fischer cross 2800 rating points? Somewhere i read he did, but i may be wrong. Anybody knows?? |
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| Apr-14-12 | | King Death: <Limpin Kt> No, 2785 after his match with Petrosian was the highest he ever got. |
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| Apr-14-12 | | MarkFinan: <Limpin Kt> No.... I think he reached 2775 or something around that, but that was early 70's, so as these guys will tell you with "Inflation", he's over 2900! And Iv'e just contadicted my above post lol :) |
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| Apr-14-12 | | Rook e2: There is some rating inflation but it's hard to measure.. Players actually are stronger than the players in the past because of computers. This has to be taken in account. (Same discussion going on on GK's page). |
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| Apr-14-12 | | Kolyas: <MarkFinan> I am not interested in debating with you. I come here to enjoy the games and rarely post anything at all. You have a reputation for arguing with people based on your past handles, but I am not here to prove anything to you or anyone else, so take your game elsewhere. |
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| Apr-14-12 | | MarkFinan: <Kolyas>/<TheFocus>... I have no interest in getting into any debate with you either, but just re read your above posts addressing me, realise i was joking in the first place, apologise for telling me to <piss off> or I'll prove 100%, without a shadow of a doubt, that you are indeed..... UN-Focused. ;) |
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Apr-15-12
 | | harrylime: <Limpit>
Fischer's rating now taking into account inflation would be around 2950. |
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| Apr-15-12 | | JoergWalter: 500 years from now, if man still exists
my rating will hit the 4000 range. But I need it today. |
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Apr-15-12
 | | harrylime: ^^^
We go by Elo..
Inflation exists in Elo ..
Or do I need to explain this to you ? |
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| Apr-15-12 | | JoergWalter: <harrylime>
no need to explain. I don't go by Elo bs. I only trust the numbers and statistics I faked myself. But I go by the games and what they teach me. and Fischer taught things you wouldn't know they exist or could be done. and he made them look easy. |
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Apr-15-12
 | | harrylime: ^^^
There's absolutely nothin in Fischer's chess which you could teach/preach to me about.. I think you're just a silly WUM of the variety which pregnates sites such as this. |
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| Apr-15-12 | | shach matov: Some inflation definitely exists but it's not possible to generalize and apply the same magic formula to all players throughout history. As an example, if it was true that Fisher would be 2950 today, it would mean that he should be able to simply wipe the floor with Anand, Carlsen, Aronian etc, which is clearly not the case. Also, Karpov in 1975 was already 2705, which (if the same silly inflation formula is applied to him as to Fischer) should himself today be 2880+, which, as in Fisher's case, would lead to the absurd conclusion that his absolute strength is around 50-80 higher than the best current players. So the silly and extremely superficial idea of just adding 4-6 points a year to account for inflation clearly leads to absurd conclusions. Perhaps this superficial method could be used if we compromise and add about 2 points a year of inflation. This is as primitive as adding 4-5 points but at least it's not as extreme and it leads to much saner conclusions - BF's BEST rating would today be about 2869 (41 years) while GK'S best about 2877 (13 years). Clearly even with this estimate both of these are way ahead of the second best rating ever, namely Carlsen's. But they're not so far away as to make it look ridiculous and completely unrealistic like the rating of 2950. |
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Apr-15-12
 | | harrylime: ^^^
I respect your input. but you're a Gazza fanboy who cannot spell the name of the greatest chess player who ever existed correctly... Fischer actually played Elo lol lol
Elo's formula never allowed for inflation.. or 'greatness' .. Which in both respects Fischer is unequalled in chess. |
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| Apr-15-12 | | shach matov: How can you call anybody a fanboy, when everybody knows that you're the epitome of the Fisher fanboys on this or any other site!? You're a good boy <harry> but unnecessarily emotional in your defense of anything to do with Fischer! Observe: I did not insult your hero or say anything inflammatory but you were able to imagine that I did. Relax, nobody will take Bobby away from you ;] |
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Apr-15-12
 | | harrylime: Shach ! You are the ultimate 'Fanboy' on this site.. Not me ! lol I respect your input on these pages..
Fischer did indeed play Elo at chess ..
Fischer is beyond 'Elo's' rating and clarification. You cannot equate Fischer's impact and 'greatness' beyond chess in Elo's formula.. So some kid will reach 3000 pretty soon .. So what ? |
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| Apr-15-12 | | shach matov: Observe <harry>: on average I make one comment every month on Fisher and Kasparov pages. You, however, defend your hero on this page EVERY DAY, fight almost everybody here with everybody who you feel "insults" Fischer, even if they actually praise him! You're here 24 hours a day, every day. This is basically a definition of a fanboy ;] Just look at the past two days: you fight with EVERYBODY! Ok, it's good entertainment and it's free. But at least read before starting arguing - the other day I took your side and tried to defend you, which was followed by you starting an argument with me, lol! |
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