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|Feb-13-15|| ||nok: <He had used up all of his allotted rest days> As had Kasparov.|
|Feb-13-15|| ||HeMateMe: when one player wins games 47 and 48 of a no-limit match, what does that tell you, if you are familiar with the game of chess?|
|Feb-13-15|| ||nok: Kortchnoi won back-to-back games in 1978 turning 5-2 into 5-4. What does that tell you, if you are familiar with the game of chess?|
|Feb-13-15|| ||john barleycorn: <nok: Kortchnoi won back-to-back games in 1978 turning 5-2 into 5-4. What does that tell you, if you are familiar with the game of chess?>|
Korchnoi won one with the white pieces and the other one with the black pieces?
|Feb-13-15|| ||HeMateMe: < Kortchnoi won back-to-back games in 1978 turning 5-2 into 5-4. What does that tell you, if you are familiar with the game of chess?>|
Fair enough. But, when VK was winning those 2 games, wasn't the total match length about half of what had transpired in the Kasparov/karpov match? We’re talking about Korchnoi winning games in the 20s, while Kasparov was winning games at the 60+ mark. I’d say fatigue was more a real issue in the Kasparov match. That, coupled with reports that Karpov was exhausted and receiving medical treatment during the match lead me to conclude that he was physically falling apart at the end of the ’84 match. If those reports are true and not just gossip, I think it leads to the correct conclusion.
|Feb-13-15|| ||nok: I'd say both were quite tired. Kasparov: <Exhaustion did exist anyway... The most difficult to cope with was the psychological exhaustion, which increased even when a game was not so intense, because the match lasted a long time, and the responsibility was great.>|
However: <some people (...) have claimed that the quality of the chess at the end was very poor, showing that the champion must have been sick and that my victories were a fluke. This is not borne out by close analysis.>
|Feb-13-15|| ||perfidious: <alex.....Somehow people think that Kasparov's appearance made Karpov weaker.>|
Each player had to give his best to stay anywhere near the other--anyone who views things this way is dead wrong.
|Feb-13-15|| ||Catholic Bishop: Karpov:
""I cannot penetrate it." He could not, even though I wanted him to!"
|Feb-19-15|| ||pcomanici: "Jan-28-15 Lambda: Karpov and Kasparov played five world championship matches, they're the two most closely compared players in history. And Kasparov, after 144 games, finished +2. There's virtually nothing to choose between them. Wherever you have one, the other must also be thereabouts. " |
Totally agree!!! Apparently these guys are not that old. If they were around back then they would know how each dominated everyone else except each other. Karpov's tournament record during this period was due to him being older and on the back side of his career. (in the late 70's early 80's his tourney record was just as impressive as anyone's including Kasparove's a decade later.) In fact when both Kasparov and Karpov where in a tourney together you knew who it was going to come down too. This went on for a decade! A decade people! As far a Fisher beating Karpov??? Nope wasn't going to happen... was Fisher a stronger player? Hell Yes! But Fisher had already melted down and self destructed by 1977... All who knew Fisher said and say...... "one of his biggest hurdles was he was afraid to defend his title! He didn't have the nerves... Was so afraid of loosing the tittle that he couldn't stomach defending it! That's why he didn't defend his title! He mentally couldn't!
|Feb-24-15|| ||zanzibar: Here's a picture of K&K together, along with Short and Sosonko, I believe circa 1986:|
|Feb-24-15|| ||Ron: <zanzibar> Looks like Tal is in that picture too.|
|Feb-24-15|| ||WannaBe: The guy scratching his cheek!? =))|
|Feb-24-15|| ||WannaBe: Actually, if you blow the picture up, it looks like the right only have thumb and 2 fingers...|
Did Tal have a deformed right hand? Or lost fingers in WWII?
|Feb-24-15|| ||tpstar: Tal had a deformed right hand from a birth defect:
|Feb-24-15|| ||WannaBe: <tpstar> Thank you!! Sir. That <IS> Tal in the picture!|
|Feb-24-15|| ||chancho: The picture of Short, Tal, Karpov, Kasparov, and Sosonko is most likely from Brussels 1987.|
|Feb-24-15|| ||zanzibar: Yes, sorry, I meant to put Tal's name down, in fact I know I did write it down, and yet...|
The real mystery is the identity of the man on the far right.
|Feb-24-15|| ||chancho: The name of the guy on the far right is Sosonko according to the pic on the page:|
|Feb-24-15|| ||WannaBe: <chancho> I'll believe ya, since my Spanish is as good as my Latin! |
But I know 'y' means 'and'. =))
|Feb-24-15|| ||chancho: Well here's another pic of Sosonko:
Looks like the guy in the other photo.
|Feb-24-15|| ||zanzibar: Boy, I'm really out to lunch, of course I wrote his name down at the start.|
Here's his portrait on <CG>, a few years later:
And here's a picture of Fischer visiting Tal in the hospital:
Of course later-day pictures of Short, Karpov and Kasparov are a dime a dozen...
|Feb-25-15|| ||offramp: Karpov owns a fine sculpture of a woolly mammoth carved from a woolly mammoth tusk!|
Unfortunately one of the sculpture's tusks was broken off.
But luckily someone was able to make a sculpture of another woolly mammoth from the tusk of the first sculpture of the woolly mammoth.
Here it is:
|Feb-25-15|| ||offramp: <tpstar: Tal had a deformed right hand from a birth defect>
Yes. The scientific name for it is Lobsterissimus Bumbicissimus.|
|Feb-25-15|| ||chancho: A closer look:
|Feb-25-15|| ||offramp: <chances> You are correct in spotting the Electrodactyl Hyperdigital Tourettismus Normalis, but a more straightforward diagnosis would be Lobsterisimus Bummakisimus, a more technically correct Latin version of what I posted earlier.|
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