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|Nov-03-13|| ||Shams: <Swedenborg> "Reassess Your Chess", and it's not even close.|
|Dec-23-13|| ||whiteshark: Jeremy, a cobbler should stick to his last. http://www.amazon.de/Autobiography-...|
|Dec-24-13|| ||micartouse: <whiteshark> I don't know, looks pretty solid to me!|
|Feb-23-14|| ||whiteshark: Quote of the Day
" If your opponent cannot do anything active, then don't rush the position; instead you should let him sit there, suffer, and beg you for a draw."
|Mar-02-14|| ||Shams: I'm pressing IM Silman via twitter to consider coming out of retirement to play in next year's World Senior Championships. It'd be cool to see him get the GM title. If you feel like joining in, tweet encouragement to @JeremySilman. Be sure to stress that five of the past six winners were not grandmasters prior to winning the tournament.|
|Mar-03-14|| ||HeMateMe: Would he be the first 2400 to get the GM title?|
|Mar-03-14|| ||Shams: I shouldn't have said "pressing him". I sent him a couple tweets suggesting it. He apparently hasn't played a serious game in 15 years, but why not take a stab at it?|
<HeMateMe> Given are the recent champions who earned the GM title by winning the event. I also give their rating at the time of the tournament and their peak rating in parentheses.
<2012> Jens Kristiansen, DEN 2429 (2454)
<2011> Vladimir Okhotnik, FRA 2427 (2510)
<2008> Larry Kaufman, USA 2391 (2424)
<2006> Algimantas Butnorius (LTU) 2397 (2449)
I was incorrect earlier in counting 5/6; 2009 winner Miöo Cebalo had already been a GM for a long time before the tournament.
It'd be a longshot but if he can recover his form he might have a shot. Well, I'm just being sentimental I guess.
|Mar-04-14|| ||HeMateMe: That sounds like an honorary title and not the real GM title.|
Anyway, he looks to be retired. Perhaps on Vulcan?
|Mar-04-14|| ||Shams: It's a full title.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||HeMateMe: You don't get the GM title by winning a satellite event. You get it by accomplishing GM norms and defeating GMs OTB. This event you are speaking of doesn't satisfy the norms requirement, and, the GMs here are somewhat retired, inactive GMs. Let's get real.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||Shams: <HeMateMe> You can believe whatever you want, dude. It's a full title and not an honorary one. Also, there aren't satellite events in chess. Also, of course the GMs are "somewhat retired, inactive". You have to be 60 years old to participate. Most 60 year old players are "somewhat retired".|
|Mar-04-14|| ||HeMateMe: Yes--have you checked to see if Vasily Smyslov is available?|
|Mar-04-14|| ||Shams: Smyslov is dead, Beavis.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||dx9293: <Shams: Smyslov is dead, Beavis> LOL!!|
<Shams> bringing the fire to <HMM>!
But <HMM> has a habit of not checking his facts...
<Automatic> <GM> title awarded to:
-Winner of the Women's World Championship
-Winner of the World Junior Championship
-Winner of the World Senior Championship
-Reaching the last 16 in the World Cup
|Mar-04-14|| ||HeMateMe: and....winning the jr title or sr title is not worthy of being called a GM. The participants in the senior tournament are no longer active, and are just trading watered down points amongst themselves. |
Winning the jr title means you have great potential, but it doesn't mean you are going to be a GM.
If FIDE wants to weaken the GM title even more, then fine. I don't have to believe in it.
|Mar-04-14|| ||Shams: <HeMateMe> <and are just trading watered down points amongst themselves.>|
Arguing that the GM title is watered-down is plausible; in no way are the participants' <ratings> watered-down.
<I don't have to believe in it.>
That's true, you don't.
|Mar-04-14|| ||HeMateMe: I'm not saying anything against a Pal Benko or Zoltan Ribli, who might be competing. They've earned our respect.|
It's just that I don't think a younger person should go in and get the GM title by beating these people. The title should go to those who can <prove they are worthy, against their peers>.
Men in their 70s are not the peers of a young chessplayer. Their titles were earned when THEY were young men, so it means less to chess fans if a middle aged guy like Silman should appear (or say, a Jay Whitehead, someone chasing the elusive GM title), and think he is a GM by beating two men in their 70s, who earned the GM title when they were in their 20s.
BTW, God still hates Seattle. Keep that in mind.
|Mar-04-14|| ||Shams: <HeMateMe> Since when is 60 years old a "younger person" in chess terms? Whatever.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||dx9293: <HMM>
The winner of the World Junior is <MOST DEFINITELY> worthy of the GM title. If you don't believe this, you haven't been following the tournament for the past 15+ years. This tournament has become so brutal that as a rule the winner is usually a 2600 or even 2650+ GM.
The World Senior is less clear. Still, the tournament is most often won by a player who already holds the GM title, recent years notwithstanding. Adding a GM every 2-3 years from the World Senior is not such a big deal.
|Mar-04-14|| ||HeMateMe: Shams--you're right, Silman is definitely old enough to play in a senior event. Somehow I see him as this perpetual 22 year old, living in his mom's basement, studying new opening theory. like the AJ Florida guy, he'll be doing the same thing at age 80.|
DX--I simply maintain that the Senior's GM points are not worth as much as the ones that Irina Krush had to get to receive her recent GM title. Their points were mostly earned up to about age 45, maybe younger. I don't think these playes have maintained the same playing strength over the passing 25 years. Common sense just leads me that way.
I'm glad we have the senior events to let past stars rev up their motors again, I just don't think victories against them should be allowed to count to raise one's status when playing against people 25 year's old. The older players are from a different generation, and so are their earned points.
|Feb-02-15|| ||MNW: I'm begging chessgames.com to fix the quote today by this man. The your should be you're. How embarrassing...|
|May-13-15|| ||TheFocus: <If your opponent cannot do anything active, then don't rush the position; instead you should let him sit there, suffer, and beg you for a draw> - Jeremy Silman.|
|May-22-15|| ||TheFocus: <The fact is that chess isnít marketable. I just donít see chess ever being a popular sport, especially in the United States> - Jeremy Silman.|
|May-23-15|| ||TheFocus: <Too many young players fail to realize that there's far more to chess than just moves> - Jeremy Silman.|
|May-24-15|| ||TheFocus: <We all blunder, and after doing so itís important to get up from the board, time permitting, and clear your head Ė nothing good can happen if you're still in the midst of an emotional backlash. Forget about the earlier, happier, position and treat this new situation as a challenge. Hunker down, get tough and insist on finding a way to put up a long, grueling resistance!> - Jeremy Silman.|
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