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|May-13-08|| ||brankat: <whiteshark> I used to know some people who, in turn, had known Fuderer. GM Ivkov, among others. They were good friends.|
Apparently, Fuderer's failure in 1955 was not the reason for his quitting a "professional" chess career. Even before, he had already planned to devote himself to scientific pursuits.
In 1955 he turned 24, and it coincided with his university graduation, upon which he proceeded with the post-graduate studies.
I remember Ivkov saying that Fuderer had, and I quote: "..his own philosophical reasons..". Ivkov didn't elaborate on this.
My feeling has been that, when it became apparent how much work, study, time, energy, it would require to reach and maintain the highest level of mastery in (just) a Game, Fuderer decided to devote the same to what he perceived as a more "worthy" pursuit.
There has been a number of very promising masters that did, more or less, the same.
|May-13-08|| ||whiteshark: <brankat> Thanks for sharing. :D|
I also found that <Andrija Fuderer> is mentioned in a book written by Bora Tot here: http://sah.paracin.co.yu/Nasi_%20Ma...
with reference to this game: A Fuderer vs B Tot, 1949
I don't understand the text, but maybe you do. :D
|May-22-08|| ||brankat: <whiteshark> Thank You for the link. I do understand the language of the book, although it is somewhat archaic. Nobody speaks like that any more :-) |
I had not heard of the book before: "Our Masters". The book was written in 1936 by Bora Tot, an old Yugoslav master.
It must have been a very limited edition, since by the 1960s only a few samples were known to exist. The person who posted the text on the net, Vojin Vujosevic, bought a sample in an "antique books" store in Belgrade in 1964. He said he had paid 20 dinars for it. According to Vujosevic, in 1964 the amount of money was the equivalent to a labourer's 10 days wages.
The work includes brief biographies and some games by the best known pre-WW2 Yugoslav masters, starting with Dr.Milan Vidmar. I suppose the major value is probably in a number of first hand accounts the author got from the masters, who he knew personally.
Especially interesting is the part dealing with old GM Boris Kostic, a very colourful personality. There are a few anecdotes relating to Kostic there. I'll try to translate some later, and post them on Kostic page.
One which I find particularly interesting has to do with the famous Stefan Zwieg novel, "The Chess Player". For decades there has been a controversy about which master did Zweig "use" as a model for his novel character, "Centovic" (?).
Prior to WW1 Kostic lived in Vienna, as did S.Zweig, and they became good friends. Kostic basically supported himself by playing chess in coffee-houses for stakes. One of his regular "customers" was Zweig, who, apparently, didn't take losses lightly, especially because B.Kostic liked to joke about it. So one day S.Zweig told him: "My revenge will be in writing!".
The text You provided the link to is actually a combination of the original Bora Tot work, and comments, together with some of the anecdotes, V.Vujosevic added some 3-4 decades later.
That is why there are references to the names and games of people like Gligoric, Matanovic, Fuderer. Mr.Tot could not have written about them in 1936.
I mostly just flipped through the pages. When I have more time I'll try to do a more thorough job, and give You more information then.
|May-23-08|| ||whiteshark: Thank you again, <brankat>! That is all very impressive. Tot's book must be a fascinating read (maybe is it comparable to Milan Vidmar's <The Golden Times of Chess> ?)|
It is thrilling that Vojin Vujosevic paid such a high price for a book. It must be his "Precious".
I always thought that Capablanca has been used for the description of Mirko Czentovic in Stefan Zweig's The Royal Game. If it is Kostic than it's indeed a late revenge in writing.
The final moves in Alekhine vs Bogoljubov, 1922 have been described Zweig's novel when Dr.B. appeared for the first time.
(not much attention so far)
|May-23-08|| ||brankat: <whiteshark> I've never read M.Vidmar's "The Golden Times of Chess".|
I assume it was written sometime in the 1950s or so. Would You know if it is still in print, available anywhere?
|May-23-08|| ||keypusher: <brankat> if this is it, there was an edition published in 2005.|
|May-23-08|| ||brankat: <Keypusher> The link You provided has to do with another one of Vidmar's chess books: |
-- "Razgovori o šahu z zacetnikom", 1946 in Slovene
= (Conversations about Chess with a Beginner). I assume it is a "Primer". I don't know if there is an English edition.
His best known chess book was:
-- "Pol stoletja ob šahovnici", 1951 in Slovene
= (Half a century at the chessboard), really an Autobiography.
I've been trying to get this one for years. Have read only a few passages, ages ago. Apparently, the book was re-issued in Slovenia sometime in the late 1990s, a small edition, and was sold out fast. There are probably English samples available.
The book I asked <whiteshark> about was actually published in German:
-- "Goldene Schachzeiten" (The Golden Times of Chess), sometime soon after WW2. I don't know of any translations.
Dr.Vidmar also wrote extensively on topics relating to his profession, electrical engineering.
-- "Med Evropo in Ameriko" (Between Europe and America). About Yugoslavia, geo-politics, political philosophy.
-- "Moj pogled na svet" (My World View)
-- "Oslovski most" (Pons asinorum), Slovenia, 1936.
Sounds like a novel!?
I'm sorry, and embarrassed to say that I have not read any of the above.
So now, rather than trying to look for them on the Net, I'll see what I can find in libraries. To begin with.
|May-23-08|| ||keypusher: <brankat> Look here. But this makes it seem that "Golden Times" is just a version of his autobiography?|
|May-23-08|| ||whiteshark: <brankat: <"The Golden Times of Chess">>|
Vidmar's memoirs were published in German only as 'Goldenen Schachzeiten', 1st ed. 1961, 2nd edition 2006
reviews in German:
http://www.berlinerschachverband.de... with the 1st story 'Alekhine, in Nottingham 1936'
4 reviews you can find here: http://www.niggemann.com/e/detail/b...
|May-25-08|| ||brankat: <keypusher> <But this makes it seem that "Golden Times" is just a version of his autobiography?>|
Sounds quite probable. But, I'd still like to read both :-)
|May-13-09|| ||whiteshark: Happy Birthday GM Fuderer!|
|May-13-09|| ||WhiteRook48: Happy Birthday!|
|May-13-10|| ||wordfunph: enjoy your 79th birthday Andrija!|
|Jan-22-11|| ||alfiepa: in the very well site
there is a beautiful article about this intriguing strong player .
|May-08-11|| ||vsadek: I am looking for the game between Andrija Fuderer and Ossip Bernstein played in Saarbruecken 1953. Christmas Tourney (19. – 31. XII 1953).|
Somehow, the whole event is missing from Chessgames database.
Other participants were: Friedrich Samisch, Jan Hein Donner, Stephan A Popel, Arthur Dunkelblum, Hans Mueller, Otto Benkner, Gerhard Lorson, Walter Morena, Wolfgang Heidenfeld, and Jacob Franz.
|May-08-11|| ||roberts partner: A photo of this game and another group photo of the competitors are in Edward Winter's Chess Notes, Nos 6467 and 6474. It's possible the complete games were not published, just a selection in the Fide revue.|
|May-08-11|| ||vsadek: @<roberts partner> Thank you. I know about these photos on Winter's Chess Notes.|
The tourney crosstable is also included in the book: „Chess Results: 1951-1955, A Comprehensive Record with 1,620 Tournament“ but actual games are nowhere to be found!
Fuderer won this game with Bernstein in excellent pawn ending. Actually, Andrija (Andrew) won the tournament with 9/11 result.
|May-13-11|| ||vsadek: Dear Andrija, Happy Birthday! Hope you celebrate in good health and high spirits.|
Your brilliant chess mastery is still remembered and praised after 60 years!
|Jun-04-11|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <chessmetrics> ranks him 18th in the world at his peak strength.|
|Oct-24-11|| ||Eastfrisian: According to Chesspedia http://www.echesspedia.com/?page_id... GM (hon.) Dr. Andrija Fuderer died on 2. October 2011. R.I.P.|
|Oct-24-11|| ||Stonehenge: Rest In Peace, HGM Fuderer.|
|Oct-24-11|| ||brankat: R.I.P.|
|Nov-05-11|| ||roberts partner: A tribute to Andrija Fuderer from the Guardian:
|Feb-07-12|| ||GrahamClayton: Here is an entertaining win by Fuderer that I have just uploaded to the database:|
[White "Andrija Fuderer"]
[Black "Stojan Puc"]
1. e4 e5 2. f3 e7 3. c3 c6 4. c4 b5 5. b3 d6 6. O-O a6 7. a4 b7 8. d4 b4 9. e2 h6 10. d2 d7 11. f4 gf6 12. g3 g6 13. c4 O-O-O 14. c3 exd4 15. xd4 c5 16. d1 e6 17. a7 d5 18. b6+ c7 19. e3 c5 20. f2 dxe4 21. cxb4 e3 22. bxc5 xc5 23. a5 exf2+ 24. h1 h5 25. c1 h4 26. xc5 hxg3
click for larger view
27. xc6+ xc6 28. f3+ b5 29. e2+ c6 30. c1+ c5 31. xc5+ xc5 32. c8+ d5 33. xb7+ d4 34. b6+ e4 35. f3+ xf4 36. xf6+ e3 37. e5+ 1-0
|May-13-13|| ||brankat: It was an honour and a privilege to know You GM Fuderer!|
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