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|Mar-15-10|| ||nuwanda: i think people with a nazi background shouldnt be given any platform, nowhere. i cannot understand why people here congrate him to his birthday, think he's a fancy person, cg.com chooses him for the game of the day, etc. he was a supporter of a fascistic system.|
nothing more to say...
|Mar-15-10|| ||micartouse: Who are these coming to the sacrifice?
To what green altar, O mysterious priest,
Lead'st thou that heifer lowing at the skies,
And all her silken flanks with garlands drest?
This guy looks batty as a cave, but he'd probably have mated me in 20 moves.
|Mar-15-10|| ||Caissanist: There have been many strong players with truly nauseating political views. Diemer was certifiably nuts, but I don't think his politics were any more objectionable than Fischer's.|
|Mar-15-10|| ||Petrosianic: <i cannot understand why people here congrate him to his birthday,>|
I never understood the logic of wishing a happy birthday to deceased players at all, Nazis or no. For that matter, I never understood the reasoning behind wishing it to living players who had never frequented the site, and so had no reasonable possibility of seeing it.
|Mar-15-10|| ||HeMateMe: I appreciate the eccentricity of such players, without having any interest in their political or religious views. As someone mentioned above, the guy played chess and wrote articles about the game during the Nazi regime. He didn't hang out with Martin Borman, he was just another schmo trying to get by.|
If there is any parallell in the United States, one might look at the "red scare" times of the 1950s, when people's political, sport, and entertainment careers were ruined by being denounced as a 'Red'. Sort of like the Salem Witch Trials. At that time a lot of people kept their mouths quiet, to protect their jobs, their livlihoods. After experiencing 30% unemployment in the 1920s, a lot of everyday Germans just wanted to get by.
|Mar-15-10|| ||Petrosianic: I don't see the parallel. With the Red Scare, as with the witch trials, the big problems arose from the fact that the systems had a dickens of a time distinguishing the innocent from the guilty. That's not an issue here, though. Diemer <was> a party member, no doubt about that. The question is, what do we want to do about it? I wouldn't refuse to play the Blackmar-Diemer gambit because of his political affiliations (though I might refuse to play it for other reasons).|
Beyond that, I'd need to know more about him. He was not banned from play after the war, so presumably, as happened with Bogolubov, FIDE examined his record and found him fairly clean.
But I still don't see the logic in wishing him happy birthday. Nazi or not, I don't think he's planning on getting out much this year.
|Apr-28-10|| ||zaxcvd: communism killed a lot more people than nazism.|
|May-10-10|| ||kellmano: Great profile and great picture.
Time to play through a few of his games methinks.
|May-29-10|| ||VladimirOo: Who was the best player Diemer has ever beaten (in a serious game of course)? In his best games, I know nobody of his opponents.|
|Sep-24-10|| ||smurph: Is there any other photo that could be used?|
|Sep-24-10|| ||BobCrisp: <I never understood the logic of wishing a happy birthday to deceased players at all, Nazis or no.>|
It's common to express sadness at the passing of players, so it makes sense to celebrate their entrance into this mortal coil.
|Sep-24-10|| ||Phony Benoni: I've always heard that today is the first day of the rest of your life, which means that everyday is everybody's birthday.|
Happy Birthday, Everybody!
|Sep-24-10|| ||whiteshark: <Phony Benoni> Does that mean we are born again on every day to come?|
|Sep-24-10|| ||Phony Benoni: <whiteshark> Indeed. "Groundhog Day" was on the right track.|
I imagine the mothers of this world don't care much for the idea, but that's life.
|Sep-24-10|| ||whiteshark: <Phony Benoni: <I imagine the mothers of this world don't care much for the idea, but that's life.>>|
It could have been worse: Somewhere on this globe, every ten seconds, there is a woman giving birth to a child. Someone must find and stop her!
|Sep-26-11|| ||abstract: Diemer never played against famous players?|
|Sep-26-11|| ||whiteshark: < abstract> Well, is Efim Bogoljubov famous enough for you?
--> E J Diemer vs Bogoljubov, 1949 :D|
|Sep-29-11|| ||abstract: yes surely he is :o|
|Sep-29-11|| ||abstract: but u know one may get fascinated by his 80% winning percentage.. this feeling fades away as soon as u c it was mostly against patzers|
|Sep-29-11|| ||OhioChessFan: That feeling doesn't fade away for me.|
|Dec-01-11|| ||Garech: Winning percentage with the white pieces:
Even Morphy would be jealous; kudos to the great gambit inventor!
|May-15-12|| ||lost in space: Played him onces when he was nearly blind in the late 80ties.|
A person with a very special (supporting) role in Germany during the Nazi-Terror Regime. Don't like him.
|May-15-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: Emil Joseph Diemer, today you are remembered for your love of Chess!|
|May-15-12|| ||JonathanJ: Can you please stop making this Nazi player of the day?|
|Jun-01-12|| ||zaxcvd: Emil Joseph Diemer -- Great player that I would like to emulate!|
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