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Sep-18-02
 | | Honza Cervenka: The most famous game of Alexander D. Petrov (1794 - 1867) is this one: Hoffman,F.A. - Petrov,A.D. (Warsaw 1844) 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.e5 Ne4 7.Bd5 Nxf2 8.Kxf2 dxc3+ 9.Kg3 cxb2 10.Bxb2 Ne7 11.Ng5 Nxd5 12.Nxf7 O-O 13.Nxd8 Bf2+ 14.Kh3 d6+ 15.e6 Nf4+ 16.Kg4 Nxe6 17.Nxe6 (Petrov here announced mate in four moves) 17...Bxe6+ 18.Kg5 Rf5+ 19.Kg4 h5+ 20.Kh3 Rf3# 0-1 |
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| Oct-05-03 | | konnami: yeah, Hoffman vs Petrov is a great game. One of the best in Petrov's history,I suppose! |
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| Oct-05-03 | | konnami: And you can check out the game Petrov vs Jaenisch. One might find a lot of interesting moves and strategies in this game. |
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Apr-04-04
 | | nikolaas: Is this the Petrov from the Napoleon problems? I'm sure his forename also began with a "a", but you never know... |
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Aug-06-04
 | | Honza Cervenka: <Is this the Petrov from the Napoleon problems?> Yes. |
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Aug-06-04
 | | nikolaas: <Honza Cervenka> Thanks! It took some time but now I know. |
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| Aug-06-04 | | chesscookie: Did he find the petrov's defense? |
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| Aug-08-04 | | tomh72000: <chesscookie> Yes, the Petrov defence is named after him. |
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Aug-09-04
 | | nikolaas: though I don't believe he was the first to play it. |
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| Aug-09-04 | | chesscookie: If he found it first, why didnt he play it first? |
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Aug-09-04
 | | nikolaas: I don't know why, but it's a fact that there are games in the database here in which the Petrov is played before Petrov existed. |
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Aug-09-04
 | | Lawrence: The Petrov is an opening which was ahead of its time. |
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Aug-09-04
 | | nikolaas: It was played for the first time in the first great match between NN and Greco. Greco vs NN, 1620 |
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Aug-09-04
 | | Dillinger: As that game demonstrates, it may have been played but not with a lot of understanding. Openings are generally named for the people who give them credibility, not the ones who play them first. |
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Aug-09-04
 | | nikolaas: <Dillinger> I have to agree with you. |
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Dec-19-05
 | | TheAlchemist: I've read that Petrov actually thought that the Petroff Defence was losing for Black. Another idiotism in English nomenclature, similar to the Ruy Lopez case. A "Napoleon Problem" as mentioned above by <nikolaas>:  click for larger viewWhite to move
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(<The b1 square represents Moscow, the h8 square Paris; the h1-a8 diagonal represents the Berezina river; the black king represents Napoleon and the white knights the russian cavalry, that chase Napoleon to his doom>) 1.Nd2+ Ka2 2.Nc3+ Ka3 3.Ndb1+ Kb4 4.Na2+ Kb5 5.Nbc3+ Ka6  click for larger view(<Here white can mate with 6.Qa8#, but the original solution is much more spectacular. Too bad about this flaw, though.>) 6.Nb4+ Ka7 7.Nb5+ Kb8 8.Na6+ Kc8 9.Na7+ Kd7 10.Nb8+ Ke7 11.Nc8+ Kf8 12.Nd7+ Kg8 13.Ne7+ Kh8 14.Kg2# (<Thus, Russia checkmates Napoleon in Paris!>) 1-0 |
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Feb-08-06
 | | who: <thealchemist> An example of this is the Damiano defense. Where did you get that Petrov thought the Petrov was losing? |
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Feb-08-06
 | | TheAlchemist: <who> It was mentioned in an article (perhaps it isn't 100% reliable). Plus, you see he never played it, though there are only 18 games in the database. I found out why the "flaw" in the Napoleon problem, the White Queen represents the marshall Kutuzov, who was always avoiding direct combat with Napoleon, and thus didn't "finish" him up, although he had the chance, but he did play an important role in the final mating configuration, where the Tzar and Kutuzov checkmate Napoleon together. |
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Feb-08-06
 | | who: Maybe this is why A Petrov vs Jaenisch, 1844 |
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| Feb-12-06 | | BIDMONFA: Alexander Petrov PETROFF, Alexander D.
http://www.bidmonfa.com/petroff.htm
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Apr-16-07
 | | gambitfan: Game of the day GOD 16/04/2007 |
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Apr-16-07
 | | gambitfan: GOD Su 16/04/2007
F A Hoffmann vs A Petrov, 1844 |
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Apr-16-07
 | | gambitfan: F A Hoffmann vs A Petrov, 1844 GOD 16/04/2007 |
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Apr-16-07
 | | thatsmate: Can someone explain to me why somebody born on the 12th of February, 1794 has a 'current Fide rating'? Seems unlikely. |
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| Jun-05-07 | | camembert: On the question of why this guy has the moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 named after him, the Oxford Companion to Chess says it's because, analysing with Jaenisch, he discovered the value of the move 3...d6 after 3.Nxe5. Since this move is apparently essential to the opening's viabilty, naming the defence after him seems fair enough. (By the way, it's probably obvious, but the reason this dead fellow is shown as having a FIDE rating is because there's a different, not-dead, fellow with the same name who really is FIDE rated.) |
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