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David Gedult
D Gedult 
 
Number of games in database: 28
Years covered: 1967 to 1989
Overall record: +28 -0 =0 (100.0%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games.

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DAVID GEDULT
(born May-10-1897, died May-20-1981, 84 years old) Poland (federation/nationality France)

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 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 28  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Roterman vs D Gedult 0-1181967TrouvilleC32 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
2. Roterman vs D Gedult 0-1141967Paris m/1C31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
3. D Gedult vs Melchior 1-071968TrouvilleA00 Uncommon Opening
4. D Gedult vs Schwarz 1-0151968corrB27 Sicilian
5. D Gedult vs Brenant 1-0121970Paris m/1C33 King's Gambit Accepted
6. D Gedult vs J Tunski 1-0221970BDG theme corr7275D00 Queen's Pawn Game
7. D Gedult vs Zweigberg 1-0121971Paris m/1C33 King's Gambit Accepted
8. Van den Behaerdt vs D Gedult 0-1131971FrankfurtC57 Two Knights
9. D Gedult vs Zweigberg 1-0101971Paris 135&47D00 Queen's Pawn Game
10. Kuenzler vs D Gedult 0-191971MetzA51 Budapest Gambit
11. Sachs vs D Gedult 0-181971Paris m/1C31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
12. D Gedult vs L Matibet 1-0111972ParisB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
13. NN vs D Gedult 0-1101972ParisA02 Bird's Opening
14. G Michalet vs D Gedult  0-1141972Paris, FRAA02 Bird's Opening
15. D Gedult vs Deverriere 1-051973?D00 Queen's Pawn Game
16. D Gedult vs A Gorfinkel 1-0151973FRA-chD00 Queen's Pawn Game
17. D Gedult vs Fleiklovitch 1-0291973FRA-chD00 Queen's Pawn Game
18. D Gedult vs Fleisch 1-0181974corrC40 King's Knight Opening
19. Potolea vs D Gedult 0-1161974Paris (France)C57 Two Knights
20. D Gedult vs Hammer 1-0111974Paris m/1C33 King's Gambit Accepted
21. Guilbert vs D Gedult 0-191974Paris m/1C31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
22. D Gedult vs Gill 1-0151974ParisC37 King's Gambit Accepted
23. Cabrol vs D Gedult 0-1181974corrC40 King's Knight Opening
24. Levy vs D Gedult 0-1181975ParisC31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
25. E Mascotti vs D Gedult 0-191977FRAC31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
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Aug-05-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  acirce: <siggemannen> Well, the game was only played once of course, or at least I assume it... but it has been uploaded in at least one false version. Now chessgames.com doesn't want to remove such duplicates unless they are sure that it is the correct version that is left on the site. This is a sound policy imo.
Aug-05-04  poktirity: My little sister has never lost a single game either and she is not world champion... ;)
Aug-06-04  siggemannen: <acirce>, it's funny how much crap you have to stand because you like kramnik. I must tell you, he's my favorite player too, because he plays the chess that is the best chess for him, not for everybody else
Aug-06-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  acirce: Yes, it's amazing how much whining there is, when the Kramnik-Leko match starts I suspect it's going to be unbearable..
Dec-20-05  DeepBlade: Did this guy invented the Gedult's Opening (1.d3)?
I play this opening against relative beginners (ELO 900-1000) with Fried Fox/Hammerschlag setup, 1.d3 2.Kd2
Dec-20-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheAlchemist: <DeepBlade> Not quite. Gedult's Opening is 1.f3. 1.d3 is the Mieses Opening, as far as I know.
Dec-20-05  DeepBlade: <TheAlchemist> True,I messed up 1.f3 is Gedult's Opening
1.f3 2.Kf2 is the Hammerslag/Fried Fox opening. Thanks for correcting me.

With his opening, I just move all my pieces off the 1st and 2nd rank. Regard it as an investment for gigantic center control ;)

May-08-06  elahevad: He's played the Blackmar Diemer a good bit as white, I've seen many more of his games than represented here. HEYA CHESSGAMES, how about you find a way to identify the Blackmar Diemer Gambit other than "Queen's Pawn Game". I'm sure it has it's own eco if you look hard enough....
May-23-06  DeepBlade: Gedult means ''patience'' in Dutch, and thats a prequisite if you want to play 1.f3!

Openings like this really test your chess skills. It sharpens your senses, you concentrate on good lines, because your opponent has already begun conducting an attack! A real hustler's opening.

(also its very fun to mess around with 1200 rated players...)

Jan-07-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: Good record but just how strong was he?
Jul-06-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: I once read all of his games were rapid games with 15 mins. So, really worth studying.

Jul-06-07  Wilson H. L.: http://www.mjae.com/gedult.html

A truly interesting page in french about Gedult. Enjoy!

Jul-03-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: Born May 10, 1897
Aug-19-08  myschkin: . . .
meditiert über das Blackmar-Diemer Gambit
http://www.belkaplan.de/chess/bdg/g...

Nov-04-08  Sem: Funny how ill Gedult's name fits his style (German 'Geduld' = patience).
Nov-13-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <Opening of the Day <Gedult Attack <1. d4 Nf6 2. f3 d5 3. g4>>> Opening Explorer
Dec-30-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  GrahamClayton: Here is another Gedult game:

[Event "?"]
[Site "Paris"]
[Date "1980.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Gedult, David"]
[Black "Przibyczevski, P"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Qe7 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. d4 Nxd4 6. Nxd4 exd4 7. Qxd4 c6 8. O-O cxb5 9. e5 Ng8 10. Nd5 Qd8 11. Qc3 Rb8 12. Nc7+ Ke7 13. Re1 d5 14. exd6+ Kd7 15. Qh3+ Kc6 16. Qf3+ Kd7 17. Qf5+ Kc6 18. Qxb5+ Kxd6 19. Bf4#

May-07-12  Cibator: <Benzol: "... just how strong was he?">: Good enough to beat the up-and-coming 17-year-old Aldo Haik in 1970 (refer the French article cited by <Wilson H L>).

According to his own account in "Chess" c1967, the opening that bears his name came about after Gunderam recommended he try the sequence 1.d4 d5 2.f3, etc. Then the lightbulb moment: "why the heck shouldn't I play 1.f3 straight off?" He annotated a couple of wins with it (neither of them against anyone you might have heard of) that demonstrated, if nothing else, his excellent command of idiomatic English.

Feb-24-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  dorsnikov: David Lonsdale from Canada has a great monograph out on the Gedault/Hammerslag opening. I,ve used it successfully against a strong player.

Dorsnikov

Feb-24-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  PawnSac: <siggemannen: I mean, check out games 15 and 18, it's the same game >

It would not be unusual to encounter duplicate games when a person plays a particular line frequently. For example, I play QGA a lot, and so have encountered the following position numerous times:

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 b5 4. a4 c6 5. axb5 cxb5 6. Qf3 resigns

since 6. ..Nc6 (best move) 7. Qxc6+ Bd7 8. Qa6 and white is up a piece and the win is a matter of technique.

But this is what i would consider a standard opening trap lower class players easily fall into.

Feb-24-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  PawnSac: <Dick Brain: Gedult went 12-0 in this collection and his longest game is 18 moves. What's his secret? >

Well <Dick Brain>, if only his wins are submitted, that's a start. It's not a complete collection of all his games.

Feb-24-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  PawnSac: <Benzol: Good record but just how strong was he?>

<whiteshark: I once read all of his games were rapid games with 15 mins. So, really worth studying.>

There are 28 games in the database, so it is obvious these are not all his games. As for the 100% win record, this is not a competition performance evaluation. I could present several hundred wins with some very interesting mates and so forth, but that alone is not an accurate measure of my playing strength. Strength is only measured against strong competition, but the games in the database for the most part seem to be against middle class players, not experts and masters. And if only one's wins are provided, it would not be a realistic representation.

Deimer considered him a "talented student".
Yet there are no games between Deimer and Gedult in the database. He played correspondence with Gunderam, yet none of those games are in the database. He embraced the opening repetoire of Gunderam, Deimer, Meises. He liked to write about chess as much as he liked to play.

What can we conclude from this?
He no doubt spent a lot of time analyzing the BDG and KGA/KGD as well as many other gambit lines that were popular in the Romantic era of chess. Such being the case, one would expect him to have a good collection of wins with these lines. Yet his play is not merely artificial. He demonstrates at least an expert/candidate master level of play.

Therefore, i would have to guess that what we have in the chessgames database is a catalog of opening mistakes. That is to say, his personal games that illustrate the opening errors in the lines he preferred, and probably about which he wrote chess articles. Since they were published, they were recorded, and therefore in the database. And if he was not an all around "master", he seems to be at least a class A (1900-1999) or candidate master (2000-2199)

They are a good secondary source of "idea variations" and tactical refutations for errors in these particular openings, especially against lesser players. If his games were all 15 min rapid, it would still represent a reasonably sound source of analysis/games since they would reflect more than random OTB play. His "pet" lines and extensive work in them would constitute a good source of understanding of the openings. Especially if we consider that he probably played the same lines regularly in chess clubs and cafes.

Jul-29-13  Sem: Is there a game Gedult - Petrosian?
Jul-29-13  DoctorD: Gedult was of about what we would say is expert strength today. He was successful in getting his coffeehouse games published in magazines like Schach-Echo in the 1970s. They were fun, flashy games in contrast to the theory-heavy games of the grandmasters.
Jul-11-14  waustad: Here is the alternative to Geduld (forgive the spelling issue, but Wunderlich makes averything work better): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcCq...
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