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|Feb-04-07|| ||vonKrolock: Really a fantastic story: Very near to some of Chess major events, without touching them directly: parallel worlds...|
|Feb-04-07|| ||Calli: Any idea if Marie Alice Heine, with all her interest in music, composers, opera etc, played an instrument or sang? Might have a connection with a certain Royal St music teacher.|
|Feb-10-07|| ||SBC: <Calli>
It seems that Thelcide Morphy must have had made the acquaintance of Marie Alice Heine, especially since the New Orleans Opera was still going strong back then, but other than that, I don't know if such a thing is even possible to research.
I woud be more curious to know, since the Monte Carlo tournaments took place because Monte Carlo actively sought them out in competition with other venues and even paid for the privelege, whether she was in part influential in bringing them there. That is, was chess considered a high art? Or did Prince Albert take an active interest in it - because chess was considered a purely intellectual endeavor, an extension of the scientific field.
Or did just the casino (which basically operated with complete autonomy) itself seek out the tournaments for commercial reasons - to get their name in the papers and attract rich clientelle to the resort during the (relatively mild in Monoco) winter months?
|Feb-10-07|| ||Calli: Nevermind! Wikipedia says "The American Civil War sent the family back to France" so Alice only lived in NO for a few years as a small child.|
|Feb-11-07|| ||SBC: <Calli>
You're right. They went to Paris right about the same time as Paul Morphy.
Marie Alice retuned to N.O. twice during her life. She was said to be multi-lingual, but that her accent was strongly flavored with a southern drawl.
|Mar-03-07|| ||SBC: |
<Pawn and Two> <Calli> <vonKrolock> and others who might be interested...
I've all-but-finished a page on Monte Carlo 1902. It's comprised of 10 pages and about 45 pictures (for those who don't like to read) and utilizes information posted on this and related pages at cg.com, as well as extensive use of newspaper articles.
It's been a very time-consuming and complex endeavor. So, before I release it by posting it on my site, I wanted to post a link here to get some critical opinions, to find inadvertant errors and basically to learn whether my first attempt to chronicle a tournament is on course - that is, whether it's interesting, boring, worthwhile, a total waste of time, etc.
One weakness I'm painfully aware of is a lack of annotated games, which I'm considering, but hesitant, at this point, to devote the time towards.
Anyway the link is: http://sbchess.sinfree.net/MonteCar...
and comments can be posted on this page or emailed to me at sarahbeth1973@yahoo dot com.
|Mar-05-07|| ||vonKrolock: <SBC> What a fantastic work of research! Thanks for mentioning my participation in the discussions here...|
|Mar-05-07|| ||SBC: <vonKrolock>
Then I portrayed your contribution accurately?
|Mar-05-07|| ||vonKrolock: <SBC> Better impossible, as we say here|
|Mar-06-07|| ||Gypsy: <SBC>
Re: Schlecter... <A quite, polite and unassuming man, he often accepted draws from a winning position.> A quiet, polite and ... (I presume)
Re: Chigorin...<...Chigorin's stature in the global arena allowed him to challenge Lasker for the world championship in 1889, but his result was dismal (+6-10=1). He played a second world champion match with Lasker in 1892 where he fared a bit better (+8-10=5). > Steinitz.
|Mar-06-07|| ||SBC: <Gypsy>
|Mar-06-07|| ||SBC: <vonKrolock>
|Mar-06-07|| ||Calli: Okay, I see it, will read tomorrow at work ;-)
Re: Monte Carlo
Just figured out that I have an Monte Carlo article from "The Field" because Fiala included it in a Pillsbury article. Will see if it has any additional material as compared to your site.
|Mar-06-07|| ||Gypsy: <SBC> A question: Who was the (Scotish, I seem to remember) player who was almost excluded from a GB championship, on the presumption that he was simply not qualified, but managed to win it? |
I remember you pointing out the player and story some time ago, but I can not now trace down who/when it was.
|Mar-07-07|| ||SBC: <Gypsy>
I know what you're asking and I've been wracking my excuse for a brain, but I can't remember!
Hopefully it'll come to me.
|Mar-07-07|| ||Calli: mr microscope examines SBC's monte Carlo pages:
Typo - "Each of the four tournaments held at resort between 1901 and 1902"
Monte Carlo page
[could use a better pic of Alice :-]
See http://www.princessofmonaco.com/ for beautiful pics of the old Miltonberger place which is now available as a rental for wedding, parties, banquets etc.
Very good and quite a lot of work.
Chigorin on this page but Tschigorin on the main page.
Mostly excellent pics, but will see if I have anything better to scan for poor Teddy von Sheve and Reggio.
"The New York Times (Feb. 2, 1902) and the Brooklyn Eagle (Jan. 12, 1902)"
The dates must be reversed since I know the NYT article was jan 12.
Berger system page is very nicely done.
Pairing page-- well, hmm , maybe in spreadsheet the names could typed once and then copied around.
I like the story about the balloon.
"Many of the last 95 games ..."
So tell us exactly how many of the games are missing. Someone should do a Chessgames collection based on the information.
Somehow I missed the crosstable link on first viewing. Perhaps a few words around the link? "To see a complete tournament crosstable, click:" Maybe its just me.
Suggestion box: What about a progressive table? This is my favorite because you see who led at what stage and who gained or lost in the final rounds.
Well, thats all the nitpicking I can do.
Overall an excellent job and a lot of info. I particularly like the way you put the tournament in the context of the time it was played. I got a real feeling of the atmosphere surrounding the players.
|Mar-07-07|| ||SBC: < Calli >
That's what I needed to hear.
I made the appropriate changes.. the easy ones at any rate.
<I like the story about the balloon.>
Thanks to <vonKrolick> for that.
<"Many of the last 95 games ..."
So tell us exactly how many of the games are missing.>
I don't have that information. I wish I did. That came from the intrepid and highly accurate (and awol) <Pawn and Two>.
<I got a real feeling of the atmosphere surrounding the players.>
Thank you for that because that is a large part of my goal.
|Mar-08-07|| ||Calli: Identify the position in this Time Magazine cover:
This will get a response from P+2 :->
|Mar-08-07|| ||schnarre: <SBC> Keep up the good work!|
I cannot recall for certain, but isn't there a variation of the King's Gambit named for Eisenberg?
|Mar-08-07|| ||SBC: <Calli>
I made what changes I could and included your wonderful "Field" article and photo of Alice.
Do you think the page is ready for publication? Or shall I wait for <Pawn and Two>'s input?
|Mar-08-07|| ||Calli: <SBC> Looks good to me. Its up to you when to release. |
"This will get a response from P+2"
Well, maybe not.
|Aug-18-07|| ||Karpova: <‘… we are much mistaken if affairs chessical do not enjoy a notable enlivenment so long as he remains in our midst.’>
W.E. Napier writing about Eisenberg in the Pittsburgh Dispatch, 4 August 1904, as quoted on page 125 of Napier The Forgotten Chessmaster by John S. Hilbert (1997).
|Aug-12-10|| ||GrahamClayton: <SBC>Edward Winter posted (CN #4551) this 1909 game between Eisenberg and Capablance played in New York:|
Louis R. Eisenberg – José Raúl Capablanca
New York, 15 April 1909
Two Knights’ Defence
1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5 Na5 6 Bb5+ c6 7 dxc6 bxc6 8 Be2 h6 9 Nf3 e4 10 Ne5 Qd4 11 f4 Bc5 12 Rf1 Bb6 13 c3 Qd6 14 b4 Nb7 15 Qa4 Bd7 16 Na3 O-O 17 Nac4 Qc7 18 Nxd7 Nxd7 19 Qc2 Rfe8 20 a4 a5 21 Rb1 Rad8 22 Qb3 Ba7 23 Ba3 axb4 24 cxb4 c5 25 b5 Na5 26 Nxa5 Qxa5 27 Bb2 Nb6 28 Qc3 Qxc3 29 Bxc3 Nxa4 30 Be5 Bb8 31 b6 Re6 32 Bc7 Rf8 33 Bd1 Bxc7 34 bxc7 Rb6 35 Ra1 Nb2 36 Bg4 Rc6 37 c8(Q) Rfxc8 38 Bxc8 Rxc8 39 Ke2 39...Rd8 40 g3 Kh7 41 f5 Nc4 42 Ra2 Rd5 43 g4 Ne5 44 Rf4 Nd3 45 Rf1 Ne5 46 Ra4 c4 47 h3 Nf3 48 Rxc4 Rxd2+ 49 Ke3 Rh2 50 Rd1 Ng5 51 Rd8 Rxh3+ 52 Ke2 Rh2+ 53 Ke3 Rh3+ 54 Kd2 g6 55 f6 e3+ 56 Ke2 Ne6 57 Rd7 g5 58 Rxf7+ Kg6 59 Re7 Kxf6 60 Rxe6+ Kxe6 61 Re4+ Kd5 62 Rxe3 Rxe3+ 63 Kxe3 Ke5 64 White resigns.
Here is a copy of the scoresheet from that game:
|Nov-24-12|| ||Phony Benoni: A picture of the players at St. Louis 1904, including Eisenberg;|
|Dec-29-14|| ||Stonehenge: Here's a Louis Raphael Eisenberg from Chicago https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903.... |
"Among the opponents disposed of by Edward Lasker in the western tournament at Memphis was L. R. Eisenberg, one-time member of the I. L. Rice Progressive Chess Club of Manhattan, later a resident of Chicago. but now hailing from Indiana. In Chicago, last season, Eisenberg, who won a game from Pillsbury in one of the international tournaments at Monte Carlo, defeated Lasker in a league match game, but at Memphis accounts were fully squared."
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