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|Aug-29-05|| ||latvija: Is Sveshnikov any different than any other player who plays the same opening and makes it their signature play? The Greco-Counter Gambit became the Latvian Gambit. |
In the recent "Liepajas Rokade" Super Tournament, Jevgeny Sveshnikov placed 8th of out 14. His son Vladimir placed 14th. van Wely won the tournament, http://www.latchess.lv/netcat_files....
I looked at some of the games. No one played 1. e4 against Jevgeny. Sveshnikov had White against Daniel Fridman and played 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 d3 4. Bxd3 d6 and lost to Fridman in 43 moves.
|Sep-24-05|| ||Averageguy: What a tactician Sveshnikov was!
|Oct-14-05|| ||notyetagm: My favotite example of the mating pattern known as <Blackburne's Other Mate>. Black resigns due to the forced mate 24 ♕g7+!! ♔xg7 25 ♘f5++ ♔g8 26 ♘h6#.|
[Event "Moscow ch-URS"]
[White "Sveshnikov, Evgeny"]
[Black "Sherbakov, Ruslan"]
[NIC "SI 31.5.10"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 e6 4. O-O Nge7 5. c3 a6 6. Ba4 b5 7. Bc2 d5 8.
e5 d4 9. Be4 Bb7 10. a4 Ng6 11. axb5 axb5 12. Rxa8 Bxa8 13. Na3 Na7 14.
Bxa8 Qxa8 15. Qb3 Qb7 16. cxd4 cxd4 17. Nxd4 Bxa3 18. bxa3 Nxe5 19. Bb2 Nc4
20. Qg3 O-O 21. Bc3 g6 22. d3 Nb6 23. Qe5 Nd7 24. Qg7+
|Mar-18-07|| ||Ron: Sveshnikov's ideas in the Sicilian Defense are considered at some length in Kasparov's recent book _Revolution in the 70s_, and Sveshnikov, along with some other grandmasters, even has a contributory essay. In his essay, Sveshnikov says something which I disagree: he says games should not be published without the permission of the players. (see page 391) I presume, then, if someone wants to see his games and ideas, they should pay for it.
My argument against this is that by making chess knowledge in the public domain, the develpment of chess theory and practice goes faster, sort of like the development of natural science.|
|Mar-18-07|| ||paulalbert: This idea is related to providing players a just financial reward for their artistic creativity, in effect similar to an author's copyright on his writings. Emanuel Lasker suggested something similar around 100 years ago. Its practical application for publicly attended tournaments in the days of the internet would be very difficult. I don't know whether players explicitly waive their intellectual property rights in their games in contracts they sign with tournament organizers, if and when such contracts exist. Professional chess players have not done a good job protecting their own financial interests, possibly because they have seldom been in a good bargaining position; and chess fans pillory them when they do, very unjustifiably in my view. Paul Albert|
|Mar-18-07|| ||elLocoEvans: Sveshnikov has a nice article at chesspro about the Soviet championship 1973.
He talks from everything, the fame the players then had, casual facts as workers making noise at a near bulding (until provided appropiately with vodka), the fashion in the garments of the players! and a lot of chessy things. It's worth the google-translating :)
|May-30-07|| ||RonB52734: <Paul Albert> There is a serious question whether the moves in a game of chess are properly subject to copyright, because it would be virtually impossible to prove that they had the required "originality." In fact, whenever we play the first 20 moves of a poisoned pawn sicilian exactly as hundreds or thousands of pawn poisoners before us, we might be making a derivative work and thereby violating somebody else's copyright. (Remember, one of the rights protected by copyright is the right to make derivative works, and another is the right of public performance.)|
While there are a huge (infinite?) number of possible moves in the course of a whole chess game, there are only 20 possible first moves (16 possible white pawn moves and 4 possible white knight moves). Every possible chess game is thus a derivative work from some long-dead patzer who opened with one of those 20 moves. It is going to be impossible to prove that any chess game worth protecting started with a move that has never, down through all the centuries, been used before to start a game.
No originality, no copyright.
|May-30-07|| ||russep: How come there is no Bio for this guy?|
|May-30-07|| ||keypusher: <russep> Because you haven't written one and submitted it.|
|Jul-17-07|| ||SniperOnKN2: What's with Sveshnikov playing the kalashnikov sicilian rather than his own variation!?|
|Nov-07-08|| ||aazqua: How can there only be one real Sveshnikov in Sveshnikov's notable games?? On a side note, the idea of copyrighting chess moves is absolutely ridiculous. Chess players need to get a grip and realize that they're destined to be poor because the game is utterly unwatchable by the masses.|
|Nov-14-08|| ||ellenliisbet: I see his playing in the currect chess olympiad:
GM Sveshnikov Evgeny 2525 - 1
GM Avrukh Boris 2657 - 0
a good result for him
|Nov-15-08|| ||kramputz: No big deal, after e5 move the Knight back to Nf3. Black move e5 is anti-positional anyway. Nb5 is a lousy place for the Knight.|
|Feb-11-09|| ||brankat: Happy Birthday GM Sveshnikov!|
|Feb-12-10|| ||stanleys: Better later than never: Happy Birthday
Very nice article by Sveshnikov himself with a lot of interesting photos: http://chesspro.ru/_events/2010/sve...
|Feb-13-10|| ||HeMateMe: Everytime I see that name, I'm reminded of the Kalishnikov rifle, the sturdy AK-47, the weapon of choice of third world soldiers.|
A funny anectode from a tournament Svishnikov competed in:
[In the above picture from 1978, Sveshnikov is playing in Cienfuegos, Cuba. In the ChessPro article he recalls that the country was idyllically beautiful, like a scene from the "Bounty" – sand, palm trees, swimming in the sea. "We were warned to look out for sharks in the bay, so one player stood watch while the others swam. I was in the water with the young< Artur Yusupov> when suddenly I felt a terrible pain. Artur rushed to my assistance and then he started screaming in pain. We had stepped on sea urchins! Artur had 30 spines in his foot – and still had a game to play on that day. We were taken to the hospital for treatment, which consists of disinfecting the wounds with iodine. The spines are left in the foot, where they dissolve after two weeks." In Cienfuegos Sveshnikov took the first place, Yusupov came third. "Second place went to the American< Larry Christiansen>. At the closing we all received our cash prizes, the Soviet participants in pesos, the Americans in dollars. I suggested to Larry that we exchange his second prize for my first, but he waved his arms and screamed 'No, no, no!' We were able to exchange our pesos at the embassy, but we had to pay a tax to the state, in my case seven thousand dollars. <And that in a country where an automobile cost $1,500. So I paid up for five Ladas!">]
|Feb-13-10|| ||miguelito: capablanca in memoriam 1979 , no 1978, sveshnikov gano con 11/13 .|
|Feb-16-10|| ||stanleys: As Sveshnikov explains, just before making this picture http://chesspro.ru/_images/material..., he was told that he had a cancer.He writes :"I made this pic for my children"|
|Feb-16-10|| ||Dravus: Sveshnikov is correct. Players should have rights to their games. In chess, intellectual property was never a better term. It's all there on the chessboard, the personalities, highlights and all.|
|Feb-16-10|| ||whatthefat: I like Sveshnikov's namesake opening, but his views on assigning IP rights to players seem ludicrously impractical for a whole host of reasons. To name just a few: |
(1) How could it ever be reasonably enforced? Either top-flight games would have to be made confidential (i.e., the loss of chess's primary purpose, which is to entertain), or else players would simply not be permitted to play something played before and would be expected to be aware of all other players' rights. And how is a player sitting at Linares to be aware of an opening innovation made the week before in an obscure Open by a 1500 player, or in an online correspondence game?
(2) At what point in the game would copyright be applied? Since 1.e4 has been played before, can it no longer be played again? Or are we interested only in innovations from some arbitrary point onwards? If applied strictly, chess would very quickly dry up. Or is it okay to mimic another game so long as the entire score is not identical? The rule rather loses its effectiveness, but even in that case there are problems, e.g., what if the opponent walks into a 4 move checkmate? Can the aggressor deliver mate, or must they play something else? And what of transpositions?
(3) What is to prevent players from selling their rights to other players? Leading players could create monopolies on openings by enlisting large teams of seconds to play critical lines and then sell the rights on to the leading player.
|Feb-16-10|| ||Dravus: Royalties should be paid by media, not individual players (unless they are doing something commercial with it beyond competing in a regular tournament game), for reproducing a player's "unique" positions, I suppose.
You can listen to Elton John with friends, but if you use it at your ballet or dance studio, you have to pay a royalty.
A chess position has been likened to a box score, with no copyright. But it is quite easy to see how a composer should have protection for his composition should it be borrowed in a publication. But enforcement would be hard, and perhaps a player should be paid only $3 per game (or per position) per issue for its reproduction.|
|Feb-17-10|| ||offramp: He is a dead ringer for Roman Polanski.|
|Jun-16-10|| ||bharatiy: I got this link from Susan's blog. nice interview. http://www.scacchierando.net/dblog/...|
|Jul-14-10|| ||Tabanus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evgeny...
Latvian champion 2010 (as he was in 2003):
|Jul-25-10|| ||BIDMONFA: Evgeni Ellinovich Sveshnikov|
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