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|Apr-19-14|| ||Shams: Nice find. That's hilarious. Here's the chart for everyone else:|
|Apr-19-14|| ||HeMateMe: I think if you use one statistic, how many presidential appointees either went to jail or were headed for jail but were pardoned, I think Obama would be the low man on the totem pole. |
He's up against some heavy hitters: Ron Reagan, Dubya, and the somewhat relaxed atmosphere of the Clinton and Carter administrations. Oh, there was that fellow named Nixon, he would have to be included in this conversation.
|Apr-19-14|| ||HeMateMe: <Here, Scotland is voting for independence from the UK soon>|
Is that a good thing? Is there enough arable land in Scotland to feed the population? If not, do you have any goods or services that people will barter for, with the Scots, so that they can eat? What about petrol for the cars and gas to heat homes during the winter? Does Scotland get a share of the U.K. North Sea Oil, in this independence scenario? You guys chased Donald Trump away, and he could have put some money in your pockets. Can't do it all with wind farms.
I hope you've thought this one through. It isn't like running away from home at age 10.
|Apr-19-14|| ||al wazir: <HeMateMe: Does Scotland get a share of the U.K. North Sea Oil, in this independence scenario?> Of course. That's why they think they should be independent.|
|Apr-19-14|| ||Shams: Last I heard the polling on Scottish Independence had seen approval of the measure bump up from clinically dead to merely on life support. There was talk on the Yes side of floating a measure to lower the voting age to 16 in a desperate-seeming effort to bring more supporters aboard.|
|Apr-19-14|| ||Tomlinsky: <Pet: If you don't care about it, then you don't. But I bet you would at least pretend to if it were a law you liked. When the UN throws its hands up and admits that they don't care either, the issue will die.>|
It doesn't matter if I care. The comment wasn't about me.
|Apr-19-14|| ||cormier: Gospel mt 28:1-10
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<After the sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning,
Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.>
And behold, there was a great earthquake;
for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven,
approached, rolled back the stone, and sat upon it.>
His appearance was like lightning
and his clothing was white as snow.>
The guards were shaken with fear of him
and became like dead men.>
Then the angel said to the women in reply,
“Do not be afraid!>
I know that you are seeking Jesus the crucified.>
He is not here, for he has been raised just as he said.>
Come and see the place where he lay.>
Then go quickly and tell his disciples,
‘He has been raised from the dead,
and he is going before you to Galilee;
there you will see him.’>
Behold, I have told you.”>
Then they went away quickly from the tomb,
fearful yet overjoyed,
and ran to announce this to his disciples.>
And behold, Jesus met them on their way and greeted them.>
They approached, embraced his feet, and did him homage.>
Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid.>
Go tell my brothers to go to Galilee,
and there they will see me.”>
|Apr-19-14|| ||HeMateMe: Doesn't Scotland go through this "independence" phase every so often, without really planning to go through with it? Sort of like Staten Island (which is really suburbia) seceding from New York City, or Texas leaving the union. Just yapping.|
|Apr-19-14|| ||thegoodanarchist: <PinnedPiece: ... I need someone with guns, acting on my behalf, to keep the peace and provide the civil umbrella that protects me from a true deluge of anarchy>|
I need someone with guns, acting on my behalf, to manage public lands and keep deadbeat ranchers from grazing on taxpayer land without paying grazing fees.
I need someone with guns, acting on my behalf, to arrest right-wing kook gun nuts who think deadbeat ranchers are fighting for "freedom", and who believe kooky conspiracy theories such as that the deadbeat rancher actually owns the land (and it somehow has viable shale oil deposits that "the guvment" is trying to steal, even though the land doesn't have that), and who are interfering with a law enforcement procedure.
|Apr-19-14|| ||al wazir: <HeMateMe: Sort of like Staten Island (which is really suburbia) seceding from New York City, or Texas leaving the union.> Or like Crimea leaving Ukraine, or Slovakia leaving Czechoslovakia, or all the Yugoslavs leaving Yugoslavia?|
Nah, it's not serious. Just a bunch of silly foreigners' talk.
|Apr-19-14|| ||devere: Commentary from the UK:
|Apr-19-14|| ||kellmano: <Shams: Last I heard the polling on Scottish Independence had seen approval of the measure bump up from clinically dead to merely on life support. There was talk on the Yes side of floating a measure to lower the voting age to 16 in a desperate-seeming effort to bring more supporters aboard.>|
Yes it is very tough to overcome the conservatism of a population, but I hope they do it. I looked on odds checker the other day and yes is slightly under 3/1 and coming in.
I love Scotland. Great countryside, great people and if they leave we will get far more Conservative governments in the rest of the UK, but for their own sake I hope they stick it to the Westminster elite.
We've only had two national referenda in the UK (I know this isn't another one). Most recently, the Lib Dems insisted on one for the electoral system in order to join a coalition government. They lost hideously, because they were fighting natural conservative psychology and a press that suggested any form of PR is laughable because the loser ends up winning. They don't of course, but hey. Let's keep it so a narrow group wields all the power and any alternative ways of running a country are marginalised. Imagine if the left had a genuine say, all the big business would go abroad and we wouldn't benefit from the crumbs from our master's table etc etc ad nauseum.
|Apr-19-14|| ||pawn to QB4: <They lost hideously, because they were fighting natural conservative psychology and a press that suggested any form of PR is laughable because the loser ends up winning.> you seem to think the voters are a pretty thick bunch, unable to see the value of new ideas and doing what the press say. Maybe we voted no (I did myself) because our current flawed system usually produces clear winners and losers: PR would probably lead to more governments like our present one, emerging from horse trading between party bosses in secret conclaves, parties making compromises their own voters never envisaged. Plus - q.v. the German Free Democrats - the Lib Dems would be more or less permanently in government, and few of us like them very much.|
As for the Scots, up to them of course, but I love Scotland too, and so would be sorry to see them go.
|Apr-19-14|| ||Abdel Irada: <devere: <perfidious: So long as Putin holds the whip-hand, doesn't matter what the rabble think-they are neither more nor less than cannon fodder to him, same as rulers everywhere.>|
That was also the case for Ceaucescu, until circumstances suddenly changed. I would not rate the odds on Putin dying of natural causes as better than 50-50.>
Niccolo Macchiavelli once wrote, "It is safer to be feared than to be loved."
Perhaps Putin will be yet another test case.
|Apr-19-14|| ||Abdel Irada: <benjinathan: <Talk about the crushing burden of federal regulation-- Cliven Bundy was balking at paying <$1.35 a month> per head to graze his animals on BLM land:>|
canada should be bring a complaint under nafta on the basis that the US govt is unfairly subsidising beef farmers to the detriment of Canadian beef farmers who want to export to the USA.>
But this would be to ignore the value added to American beef by the continued presence (last report: 2012) of transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, which after ingestion and a moderate incubation period produce compliant model citizens: an incalculable benefit to pathocrats facing possible withdrawal of consent to misgovern.
|Apr-19-14|| ||Abdel Irada: <FSR: Government handouts to people who are (a) white and (b) don't really need them are apparently a good thing.>|
This would amount to a restatement of the Bank Loan Principle: <We'll be happy to lend you money, just as soon as you prove you don't need it.>
|Apr-19-14|| ||PinnedPiece: Wow, this is a story.
Its great news, in fact:
<More than 50 political leaders from nine states convened for the first time to talk about their joint goal: wresting control of oil-, timber -and mineral-rich lands away from the feds.
"It’s simply time," said Rep. Ken Ivory, R-West Jordan, who organized the Legislative Summit on the Transfer for Public Lands along with Montana state Sen. Jennifer Fielder. "The urgency is now.">
You see conservatives leading the way on this one. Only the hardest-line Statist "big-government AmLibs" are going to fight this effort.
E.g. Senate Democrats & Hairless Reid, Obama, Holder, Jewell (Sec. of Interior), and the rest of the Obama socialists currently in power.
Neil Kornze (Chief of BLM) can be put out to manage his own pasture.
Given that over 60% of the voters in this country now believe that Obama lies some or all of the time, I think the support for shrinking Govt. power in this way can be found.
(Not on Rogoff forum, obviously.)
|Apr-19-14|| ||Abdel Irada: <PinnedPiece: Am I surprised that Big Government Apostles ...|
No, I'm not surprised.>
What a surprise: <PiPi> has answered his own rhetorical question, and the answer is exactly the one the question expects.
Such writing never fails to fail to astonish.
|Apr-19-14|| ||PinnedPiece: Ooops <Chancho> has rescinded and I have no choice but to follow.....|
|Apr-19-14|| ||perfidious: It is simultaneously <Abdel>'s salvation and misfortune to be accustomed to a more rigorous intellectual framework than that espoused by <pipi>: salvation because his mind is open to concepts outside the web of his immediate concerns, and misfortune because the blinkered viewpoint of the <Texass Truth-Twister> will not be swayed one whit by <Abdel>'s reasoning, try as he might.|
|Apr-19-14|| ||Shams: The ranchers are just fed up with having to pay less than a nickel a day to graze their cattle.|
|Apr-19-14|| ||PinnedPiece: <perfidious: It is simultaneously <Abdel>'s salvation and misfortune to be accustomed to a more rigorous intellectual framework....>|
yada yada yada. *yawn*
What a blowhard.
If there is someone who's contributions on this forum are 85% fact-free, and 90% logic-free, it's <perfidious>.
|Apr-19-14|| ||Abdel Irada: <PinnedPiece: At least I post links that have something in them that support my statements.>|
Er ... hard to say what to make of this. The harsh reality is that you seldom seem to have read the articles you link to, and when we read them, they turn out more often than not to argue *against* your claims.
|Apr-19-14|| ||Abdel Irada: <If so, Rice and her colleagues haven’t been paying close attention. Israel is no longer an impoverished, embattled, emotionally needy client state. It is an emerging international power with options it never had before.>|
That's not so hard, given funding to the tune of $8 million a day in taxpayer-supplied funds from the U.S.
|Apr-19-14|| ||PinnedPiece: <AI: The harsh reality is that you seldom seem to have read the articles you link to,>|
Total bullspit, invented by you and continued as some type of campaign to show your faux superiority in reasoning. Give me two instances where what you claim is true: My link argues against my claim. Quote the part that denies my claim, and the reason I posted the link.
Since I have posted hundreds of links in just the year 2014, if what you claim is true, you should have ten examples immediately.
I am not going to let this go.
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