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|Jul-24-14|| ||Jim Bartle: <Much easier to condemn Israel, who take criticism to heart, and are a part of the international community of civilized nations...>|
The Israelis take criticism to heart? Not Netanyahu. Not the Israelis I hear.
And, kind of tough for the Palestinians to be part of the International community of civilized nations when they aren't a nation at all. When Israel has not permitted them to become a nation.
|Jul-24-14|| ||Everett: <Black teenage unemployment rates ranging from 20 to 50 percent have been so common over the past 60 years that many people are unaware that this was not true before there were minimum wage laws, or even during years when inflation rendered minimum wage laws ineffective, as in the late 1940s.>|
I call bull-sheet. Lots has changed since 1940s and the minimum wage act. Why would this have a greater influence compared to crack epidemics and such?
Who says minimum wage is just for black people anyway? It's not. <Although workers of all races and ethnicities would benefit from the increase, non-Hispanic white workers comprise the largest share (about 54 percent) of those who would be affected.>
|Jul-24-14|| ||Everett: <And, kind of tough for the Palestinians to be part of the International community of civilized nations when they aren't a nation at all. When Israel has not permitted them to become a nation.>|
I find it just amazing that Israel has been allowed this role of "brother's keeper." The only reason it does not seem so bizarre is because it has been like this for so long.
|Jul-24-14|| ||WhiteRook48: Much easier, isn't it, to shout at Hamas to get their f#!@ing rockets out of the hospital than to genuinely address the fact that Israel is flat-out shooting the innocent and the guilty without even trying to distinguish the two - simply walking in and killing whoever they find.
I understand that damage of a collateral sort happens when a country defends itself from attack, but when Israel starts doing things like this:
The sniping of a wounded civilian who posed literally no threat whatsoever, "collateral damage" starts being fancy-speak for "flat-out murder."|
Hamas fires rockets and "kills people." Israel fires rockets and "people are caught in the crossfire." They are "collateral damage."
|Jul-24-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Hmmm:
<The 13 U.S. states that raised their minimum wages at the beginning of this year are adding jobs at a faster pace than those that did not, providing some counter-intuitive fuel to the debate over what impact a higher minimum has on hiring trends.>
|Jul-24-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <Pro-Israel demonstrators in Boston chant at Palestine solidarity demonstrators, "You bombed the marathon!">|
Can't understand why such a fine stallion of an Arab hater, <pipi>, is not with them too.
|Jul-24-14|| ||zanzibar: <tell Hamas to get their f###ing* rockets out of the vicinity of the hospital.>|
Hamas deserves criticism on many levels, but note that the news coverage I cite has IDF itself reporting the target as being a cache of <anti-tank missiles>.
These are not the usual <rockets> (Qassam etc) that target Israeli civilians. These were for military targets, i.e. tanks, and have limited range.
And they weren't an eminent threat to IDF or Israeli civilians - it was a weapons cache, an admittedly fat target (if really there, you know, the fog of war...), but far away from any front.
Thus, all the more reason the hospital should not have been targeted without warning, or don't you agree with that?
|Jul-24-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: Believe me - there will be international consequences.|
I've already seen a Zionist break down in a televised debate the other day. The weight of the shame was too much to bear.
You dance with the devil and he'll own your soul for sure. You only have to look at Netanyahu to see the effect of the poisons steadily consuming him. And gradually the whole nation of Israel will implode under the weight and the colossal burden of shame, as they realise that what they have done to the Palestinians for over 3 score years, is reflected in the grim spectre of their past.
|Jul-24-14|| ||WhiteRook48: Out of curiosity, which particular televised debate was this?|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <A Debate on Gaza: Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada vs. J.J. Goldberg of the Jewish Daily Forward>|
Starts off normally along the usual propoganda lines - but keep watching - right to the end. The psychology of it is instructive.. I've probably built it up too much now:)
|Jul-25-14|| ||Jim Bartle: US "liberal" media? Washington Post headline and subhead:|
<2 ISRAELI SOLDIERS KILLED IN GAZA CLASH
Death toll tops 330 as Hamas mititants step up attacks>
You have got to be kidding me.
|Jul-25-14|| ||zanzibar: One of the reasons to criticize Hamas may be found in the following:|
<UNRWA investigating discovery of 20 rockets found in empty Gaza school
UN agency for Palestinian refugees condemns 'first of its kind' incident, saying missiles removed and relevant parties informed>
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20... (Thurs 2014-07-17)
A empty school though, and not an occupied hospital.
|Jul-25-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <Susan Rice @AmbassadorRice · 2h
Deeply concerned about tragic violence at UN school and rising civilian death toll in Gaza.>|
Really? Why were you the only one in the UN to vote down the human rights investigation?
Yeah - deeply concerned. Deep in shiite more like and pockets lined with AIPAC dollars you sick facks.
|Jul-25-14|| ||Shams: <PinnedPiece> < Much easier to condemn Israel, who take criticism to heart>|
Any evidence for this statement?
|Jul-25-14|| ||HeMateMe: I'm wondering if it isn't time for the U.N. to get involved and send in ground troops to Gaza. The only problem is, if the Hamas terrorists can evade searches by U.N. personnel, and continue to fire rockets at Israel, the end result might be dead U.N. troops, as Israel continues to fire back at the source sites of the launches. |
Hamas must feel that sacrificing the lives of a few hundred civilians is worth it because of all the free publicity and hatred that is being generated by these actions. Gaza will be a good place for them to recruit suicide bombers.
|Jul-25-14|| ||Shams: Speaking of High School Foreign Policy Club: here comes our esteemed secretary now, no doubt with some choice tidbits digested from this week's Time magazine.|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Shams: Meanwhile, just north of the propaganda bubble in Toronto:|
<The Palestinians use tunnels? So did my heroes, the poorly armed fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto. Unlike Israel, Palestinians lack Apache helicopters, guided drones, jet fighters with bombs, laser-guided artillery. Out of impotent defiance, they fire inept rockets, causing terror for innocent Israelis but rarely physical harm. With such a gross imbalance of power, there is no equivalence of culpability.
Israel wants peace? Perhaps, but as the veteran Israeli journalist Gideon Levy has pointed out, it does not want a just peace. Occupation and creeping annexation, an inhumane blockade, the destruction of olive groves, the arbitrary imprisonment of thousands, torture, daily humiliation of civilians, house demolitions: these are not policies compatible with any desire for a just peace. In Tel Aviv Gideon Levy now moves around with a bodyguard, the price of speaking the truth.>
Are you listening, <PiPi>? Levy needs a bodyguard to protect himself from his fellow "civilized" Israelis, who are collectively losing their minds.
|Jul-25-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: <The downing of flight MH17 was clearly an accident. This tragedy should not be used as an excuse to punish Russia.|
Why does foreign policy default to stupid? From the moment that we heard of the Malaysian airliner shot down over Ukraine it was clearly an accident. Whoever’s finger was on the trigger, the tragedy cannot have been meant. This was not another 9/11. It was cock-up, not conspiracy.>
|Jul-25-14|| ||Shams: http://www.theonion.com/articles/is...|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: Yeah - just highlights the absurdity of it all.|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Shams: <Colonel> Does this clip remind you of anyone?|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: hehehe - on the first syllable.|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: For some reason it made me think of this..:)
|Jul-25-14|| ||Shams: There's a blast from the past. Never saw the video before.|
|Jul-25-14|| ||Colonel Mortimer: John Pilger's "Palestine is still the Issue"
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